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This coming season will be tough. Be realistic. What are you willing to settle for this team next season to make you happy?
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Papabear
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5/20/2014  7:23 PM
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this coming season will be tough. Melo may be gone. We still must play to will. I don't think the Knicks will throw the season away. Realistically I will be happy if we have a coach to take this team to 45 wins and Stat staying healthy. We don't have many choices so we need coaches to take the team to a level that Woodson could not do.

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holfresh
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5/20/2014  7:28 PM
Too soon to call..Let Phil do his work then we will see...
VCoug
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5/20/2014  7:31 PM
If we trade Tyson, S&T Melo for future draft picks, and sign a head coach that has even an basic understanding of modern basketball I don't care how many wins we get. If Felton could get traded and Bargnani never got off the bench that would just be icing on the cake.
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5/20/2014  7:32 PM
Start with trading Tyson for anything.
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5/20/2014  8:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/20/2014  8:40 PM
The worst thing about next year is even if we suck and have the best shot at winning the lottery, Cleveland will get the pick. I'm convinced even if CLE makes the playoffs next season they will somehow still win the 2015 draft lottery.
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5/20/2014  8:52 PM
VCoug wrote:If we trade Tyson, S&T Melo for future draft picks, and sign a head coach that has even an basic understanding of modern basketball I don't care how many wins we get. If Felton could get traded and Bargnani never got off the bench that would just be icing on the cake.

We should be able to make the trade for Melo happen and the trade for Tyson. They're both players who should be able to bring back something in terms of talent or picks. This would go a long way towards the rebuild of the franchise.

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5/21/2014  6:53 AM
I just want a coach that will motivate his players and teach proper defense. If they do that I'll be fairly content given the situation. I can't watch us get burned over and over by such basic pick and rolls anymore. I don't know how supposed "professionals" can't make such simple adjustments. And I wouldn't mind trading Tyson's sorry ass either. Quit blaming woodson and look in the mirror. Him and woody have been the culprit of most of our defensive failures.
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5/21/2014  8:01 AM
I'd settle for getting good players at reasonable prices. I don't care about the win total because it's not going to be something special (50+) anyway.
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5/21/2014  8:58 AM
I really don't care what the Knicks do, all I know is that the have get out if this draft with Dante Exum. Trade who ever I'm not even concerned about Melo staying or going. Because if he leaves you have cap space. Next year the Knucks may be bad but if they can get another top pick to put aside top FAs then the team is basically set up for the future.
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5/21/2014  9:24 AM
Id start with putting a LOT of effort into this draft and try to start a culture of competitiveness high character guys and winning. No more Eddy Currys Stephon Marburys Balkman's JR Smith's Ray Felton's. Lets get guy who want to play hard for each other and their fans who will represent the cityt and state work hard earn it be part of a group effort to win.

EVEN if we dont have 1 draft pick--we can set the tone with undrafted players find me three guy whio want to battle for a position who wants it. I either want to be in position to be able to contend or I want to spend my time retooling the club so it can. The in between is the bad place to be.

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5/21/2014  9:34 AM
Trade Tyson because he's a chump, but still has value.
Trade Melo, because he's not a winner without some serious help. If he unfathomably takes under $20mil to stay in NY, then we can build around him for 2015 with our draft pick and cap space.

Get a coach who will implement PJax' vision for the team.

Then...

Tank the season and get the best draft position we can.

THAT is the shortest route to rebuild for contention I can imagine.

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5/21/2014  9:35 AM
Stat staying healthy; yeah, that will happen.

Lamar Odom retires before camp starts.
THJr. takes the SMOTY.
Phil hires an ex-Knick with brains to coach, no not Darrel Walker, Chris Dudley or Bill Hoss Cartwright.
Melo signs for less and shuts most people up.
Phil then gets some Love.
Phil then gets us a real PG.
Shump plays consistently well the whole season, injury free.
JR does nothing stupid.
Cole Aldrich becomes a quality backup 5.
Pablo shoots more and becomes deadly.

tkf gets a job in the Hawks front office.
guns becomes admin on UltimateHornets.com.
Bonn becomes CEO of Credit Suisse and is never heard from again.
dtkf posts two (2) "Melo's good stat line" threads. Without any retractions or apologies.
Nalod cancels his data plan and internet, gets a second mortgage, paints his face like a checkered flag, dances on his courtside seat at Barclays for the rest of his life.

playa2 returns as an atheistic communist sympathizer who could care less about the US government.
He posts incessantly about how he likes Barg's underrated spin moves.

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5/21/2014  10:58 AM
The big signings will probably happen after next season so the best thing we can do is get the best role players we can find, build up the bench, put in a system, and get ready for 2015.
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5/21/2014  11:09 AM
jrodmc wrote:Stat staying healthy; yeah, that will happen.

Lamar Odom retires before camp starts.
THJr. takes the SMOTY.
Phil hires an ex-Knick with brains to coach, no not Darrel Walker, Chris Dudley or Bill Hoss Cartwright.
Melo signs for less and shuts most people up.
Phil then gets some Love.
Phil then gets us a real PG.
Shump plays consistently well the whole season, injury free.
JR does nothing stupid.
Cole Aldrich becomes a quality backup 5.
Pablo shoots more and becomes deadly.

tkf gets a job in the Hawks front office.
guns becomes admin on UltimateHornets.com.
Bonn becomes CEO of Credit Suisse and is never heard from again.
dtkf posts two (2) "Melo's good stat line" threads. Without any retractions or apologies.
Nalod cancels his data plan and internet, gets a second mortgage, paints his face like a checkered flag, dances on his courtside seat at Barclays for the rest of his life.

playa2 returns as an atheistic communist sympathizer who could care less about the US government.
He posts incessantly about how he likes Barg's underrated spin moves.

jrodmc continues his dominance in the "OFF TOPIC, UK forum.... while sucking his finger, using vaseline on his lips, banished to CBA, and comes back a Champion with 99 Cents Air Jrodmc's

Makes epic changes and vowes return to the NYK's forum but no one cares

JamesLin
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5/21/2014  12:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/21/2014  12:13 PM
Sell the team will make me happy. I'll take ANY other owners.. Ok, realistically? Jimmy Dol doesn't interfere with anything Phil is planning or doing.. I'll be happy with that too even if it means Phil screws up more for this pile of crap team.
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jrodmc
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5/21/2014  12:42 PM
RonRon wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Stat staying healthy; yeah, that will happen.

Lamar Odom retires before camp starts.
THJr. takes the SMOTY.
Phil hires an ex-Knick with brains to coach, no not Darrel Walker, Chris Dudley or Bill Hoss Cartwright.
Melo signs for less and shuts most people up.
Phil then gets some Love.
Phil then gets us a real PG.
Shump plays consistently well the whole season, injury free.
JR does nothing stupid.
Cole Aldrich becomes a quality backup 5.
Pablo shoots more and becomes deadly.

tkf gets a job in the Hawks front office.
guns becomes admin on UltimateHornets.com.
Bonn becomes CEO of Credit Suisse and is never heard from again.
dtkf posts two (2) "Melo's good stat line" threads. Without any retractions or apologies.
Nalod cancels his data plan and internet, gets a second mortgage, paints his face like a checkered flag, dances on his courtside seat at Barclays for the rest of his life.

playa2 returns as an atheistic communist sympathizer who could care less about the US government.
He posts incessantly about how he likes Barg's underrated spin moves.

jrodmc continues his dominance in the "OFF TOPIC, UK forum.... while sucking his finger, using vaseline on his lips, banished to CBA, and comes back a Champion with 99 Cents Air Jrodmc's

Makes epic changes and vowes return to the NYK's forum but no one cares

I only wear Reebok Iversons, you cretin. They give me the illusion of hops. And actual moves.

And Oh Yeah,
RonRon translates all his posts to Hebrew, thereby filling the void left by both Bonn and gunsewing as UK Prince of Post Brevity. Still no one understands what he's saying.
misterearl refuses to refer to himself in the third or fourth person until the Knicks win the ECF.
BRIGGS decides the entire franchise should be traded to the city of Seattle for the draft rights to any of Durant's offspring.
NardDogNation decides he likes corporate America and starts a "What I Love About Conspicious Consumption" forum. It outposts the NBA Forum, occassionally.
IWG's wife hit's the lottery and buys him his own Pacific island. He starts his own pro league, where the rims are all at 7 ft, you can only score by dunking, and only white powerfully built Euros are accepted to play. All teams must have the word "squat" in their name.
PapaBear actually finds out where tkf/dtkf actually lives, buys a bus ticket and goes there. Film at 11.

tkf
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5/21/2014  1:06 PM
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

this coming season will be tough. Melo may be gone. We still must play to will. I don't think the Knicks will throw the season away. Realistically I will be happy if we have a coach to take this team to 45 wins and Stat staying healthy. We don't have many choices so we need coaches to take the team to a level that Woodson could not do.

what coach would that be? coach Durant? coach James? coach George? because you will need those guys to coach and play at the same time to reach 45 wins with this team...

If you are being realistic, then 45 wins should not enter the equation... don't you think?

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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5/21/2014  4:52 PM
Being average next year and getting the 7th or 8th seed would be the worst case scenario possible. Either we sign Melo, get all of our guys healthy and make one more big run next year or we let Melo walk and suck next season and get the top pick and capspace.

Personally, I go for the let Melo walk scenario, even if that means Phil Jackson getting fired, because we need to clear as much as possible and start over from scratch. There is too much fat and rubble on this roster to keep him and be a contender. I don't see any other realistic way we can keep him and win unless LeBron starts smoking crack and meth and joins us next Summer.

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5/23/2014  11:22 PM
if they don't win the championship, it's a letdown.

you gotta go hard or go home in the paint,

now with phil jax-

you're in the danger zone when you drop the buckets.

i think we can see a quick rebuild if the mixture is right, if the right stirring stick is used to ready the paint can!

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5/24/2014  12:59 AM
They blew it when they didn't get Melo Chris Paul, the guy that would take him to new heights. Melo needs a guy like that, to get him the ball, be the leader, and make plays, something Melo isn't polished enough to do. Our only hope to build around him is the triangle, and we can't even find a goddamn puppet for Phil Jackson to stand on the sidelines..**** doesn't look good.

Let him walk, blow it up, stink it up, rebuild. I'd rather watch some young kids play hard and suck than watch overpaid washed up veterans stink up the joint at this point.

This coming season will be tough. Be realistic. What are you willing to settle for this team next season to make you happy?

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