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Bonn1997
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Simple enough question.
Steinbrenners
Dolan
Tie
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Nalod
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5/6/2014  4:34 PM
Not even close. Yanks have a culture of winning. MSG is a clown house.
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5/6/2014  4:37 PM
Nalod wrote:Not even close. Yanks have a culture of winning. MSG is a clown house.

Yeah no issues with the Steinbrenners. I think no ownership in the history of sports cares more about winning. They care about the fans and the legacy of the franchise.

What brings this poll up?

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5/6/2014  4:40 PM
George is an ICON now.
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5/6/2014  5:05 PM
I think that the poll should be Pre Howard Spira/Stick M. Yankees
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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5/6/2014  5:08 PM
mreinman wrote:I think that the poll should be Pre Howard Spira/Stick M. Yankees

indeed. i put tie since i recall george being the worst owner i had ever seen.

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5/6/2014  5:46 PM
Nalod wrote:Not even close. Yanks have a culture of winning. MSG is a clown house.


+100

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5/6/2014  6:31 PM
sidsanders wrote:
mreinman wrote:I think that the poll should be Pre Howard Spira/Stick M. Yankees

indeed. i put tie since i recall george being the worst owner i had ever seen.

This isn't about george
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5/6/2014  7:07 PM
Stein,

at least Dolan is one of us!

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IronWillGiroud wrote:Stein,

at least Dolan is one of us!

a Knicks fan :)

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5/6/2014  9:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/6/2014  9:55 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
sidsanders wrote:
mreinman wrote:I think that the poll should be Pre Howard Spira/Stick M. Yankees

indeed. i put tie since i recall george being the worst owner i had ever seen.

This isn't about george


Yeah, the winning has nothing to do with these Steinbrenners. (I meant the two running the team now.)
That would be like crediting Dolan for the playoff runs in the 90s before he took over.
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5/6/2014  10:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/6/2014  10:21 PM
I give them credit for 09. At the same time the same team drifted towards relying too much on the home run and not getting hits with runners on base. Swisher granderson texeira were the main culprits

Cano was not one of those guys. He mainted a .300+ batting average 30HR's 100rbis every year. With his defense a 4 tool player. Not 5 because he doesn't steal many bases and doesn't always hustle

Have fun with a Brian Roberts and his .260 average while missing half the season to injury. He is done.

Have fun playing Jeter at short while he is clearly not capable at 40. Not at the plate or on the field

Oh and have fun with former "ace" cc sabathia pitching game 1 in the post season if they even make it
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5/6/2014  10:10 PM
if george is out, the time lines of running things isnt long enough post george to compare to dolan. the yankees could go the route of the knicks given 15+ years of the younger guys running things.
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5/6/2014  10:18 PM
gunsnewing wrote:

Cano was not one of those guys. He mainted a .300+ batting average 30HR's 100rbis every year. With his defense a 4 took player. Not 5 because he doesn't steal many bases and doesn't always hustle

Have fun with a Brian Roberts and his .260 average while missing half the season to injury. He is done.

Have fun playing Jeter at short while he is clearly not capable at 40. Not at the plate or on the field


Well theses Steinbrenners didn't fully take over until 2010, which is right when things plummeted. (You're right that they did reportedly have significant involvement before then though.)
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5/6/2014  10:18 PM
sidsanders wrote:if george is out, the time lines of running things isnt long enough post george to compare to dolan. the yankees could go the route of the knicks given 15+ years of the younger guys running things.

Yeah, sorry, I guess my poll was vague.
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5/6/2014  10:22 PM
I think that Dolan is better compared to mid 80's steinbrenner - horrible and constants meddling.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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5/6/2014  10:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/6/2014  10:23 PM
A lot of this(pitching & hitting) woes fall on the coaches but they were just extended for 4yrs so whatcha gon do
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5/7/2014  1:21 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/7/2014  1:23 AM
lol Brian Roberts finally comes thru with a game winning HR after I bash him all day lol
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5/7/2014  7:31 AM
New stadium brings new financialnpressue
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5/7/2014  7:34 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/7/2014  7:37 AM
All the more reason to have a sensible plan then!
The Steinbrenners have an easier job than Dolan since they don't have to operate within a salary cap. It's really hard to imagine having no salary cap, the ability to outspend everyone, and still only putting together a .500 team.
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5/7/2014  10:28 AM
Ok the young steinbrenners....

well we're talking about 4 seasons so far. There had to be a transition period. The kids were still trying to figure out if they even wanted to keep the team anymore. They put salary restraints on themselves. They ignored the aging guys, and didn't really do anything the last 3 years. This is true.

This last off season I think they woke up this year. They spent the money, they tried to fill holes. They tried to upgrade pitching. They also have given the young guys an opportunity to make a come up to the big show.

I still think they might end up getting Stephen Drew after a while, but they really don't need to.

So I think it's back to business as usual in yankee land. The group will only get better between now and next season. I expect a championship pretty soon actually. That's what the yanks do and I think they are back in track

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