The Knicks are in the lottery.

It don't mean a thing, if you ain't got that ball reversal.

If the scouting department that report to Clarence Gaines and Phil Jackson has any prime directive, it is to locate one dude, playing anywhere in the world, who can manage the rock... and dominate in the last two minutes of a game.

misterearl wrote:Gustav - excellent point. The next Patrick Beverly or Damian Lillard could come from anywhere.

If the scouting department that report to Clarence Gaines and Phil Jackson has any prime directive, it is to locate one dude, playing anywhere in the world, who can manage the rock... and dominate in the last two minutes of a game.

I'd be happy just signing someone like Darren Collision to a short term deal and trying to address the issue through the draft. That's assuming we keep Melo. If we go triangle, then defense and outside shooting are going to be the most important attributes for our next PG to have.

Why our beloved team does not have a talented yute at guard is baffling.

misterearl wrote:BigDaddyG - defining the criteria for the next Knicks guard is essential. Your point is well taken.

Why our beloved team does not have a talented yute at guard is baffling.

fitzfarm wrote:How about trying to get Perrier Jackson... I don't think it would take much of a trade ... And the guy is super talented, could even be a star in the nba.

Cosign. Not sure if he'll be a star but he'll definitely be a factor in the NBA and is definitely better than anything we have at the position currently. He and New Orleans are at odds -- I don't think he'll ever play there. They're gonna have to move him eventually.

As far as a FA signing with our limited MLE goes, I continue to like Darren Collison or Patty Mills. Think I like Collison a hair better (I got DC as a slightly better defender whereas Mills might be a slightly better offensive player) but it's negligible -- both are nice players that are capable of taking the next step (running their own squad full-time). And they may come at a bargain rate--that's the key. Either guy starting around $3.2mm a year is properly value. I know there's been talk that neither is that prototypical "triangle PG" but what does that really mean? I feel both of these guys fit right into a triangle PERFECTLY -- they can each shoot, they can each move the ball, they're both efficient offensive players and the added bonus: each guy is lightning quick and can function out of the triangle setup if need be (both guys can push the ball when it presents itself and both guys can put their head down and break their man off the dribble when nothing else is there). Given our current situation, I don't see how we could do much better. As soon as the FA period begins, I'd come hard with my best offer for either of these guys: the full tax-payers MLE offer + a starting role. To me that'd be money well spent.

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fitzfarm wrote:How about trying to get Perrier Jackson... I don't think it would take much of a trade ... And the guy is super talented, could even be a star in the nba.

Cosign. Not sure if he'll be a star but he'll definitely be a factor in the NBA and is definitely better than anything we have at the position currently. He and New Orleans are at odds -- I don't think he'll ever play there. They're gonna have to move him eventually.

As far as a FA signing with our limited MLE goes, I continue to like Darren Collison or Patty Mills. Think I like Collison a hair better (I got DC as a slightly better defender whereas Mills might be a slightly better offensive player) but it's negligible -- both are nice players that are capable of taking the next step (running their own squad full-time). And they may come at a bargain rate--that's the key. Either guy starting around $3.2mm a year is properly value. I know there's been talk that neither is that prototypical "triangle PG" but what does that really mean? I feel both of these guys fit right into a triangle PERFECTLY -- they can each shoot, they can each move the ball, they're both efficient offensive players and the added bonus: each guy is lightning quick and can function out of the triangle setup if need be (both guys can push the ball when it presents itself and both guys can put their head down and break their man off the dribble when nothing else is there). Given our current situation, I don't see how we could do much better. As soon as the FA period begins, I'd come hard with my best offer for either of these guys: the full tax-payers MLE offer + a starting role. To me that'd be money well spent.

I like both of those guys but I think that I trust Collison more based on experience. He played some really solid defense yesterday on curry.

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mreinman wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:How about trying to get Perrier Jackson... I don't think it would take much of a trade ... And the guy is super talented, could even be a star in the nba.

Cosign. Not sure if he'll be a star but he'll definitely be a factor in the NBA and is definitely better than anything we have at the position currently. He and New Orleans are at odds -- I don't think he'll ever play there. They're gonna have to move him eventually.

As far as a FA signing with our limited MLE goes, I continue to like Darren Collison or Patty Mills. Think I like Collison a hair better (I got DC as a slightly better defender whereas Mills might be a slightly better offensive player) but it's negligible -- both are nice players that are capable of taking the next step (running their own squad full-time). And they may come at a bargain rate--that's the key. Either guy starting around $3.2mm a year is properly value. I know there's been talk that neither is that prototypical "triangle PG" but what does that really mean? I feel both of these guys fit right into a triangle PERFECTLY -- they can each shoot, they can each move the ball, they're both efficient offensive players and the added bonus: each guy is lightning quick and can function out of the triangle setup if need be (both guys can push the ball when it presents itself and both guys can put their head down and break their man off the dribble when nothing else is there). Given our current situation, I don't see how we could do much better. As soon as the FA period begins, I'd come hard with my best offer for either of these guys: the full tax-payers MLE offer + a starting role. To me that'd be money well spent.

I like both of those guys but I think that I trust Collison more based on experience. He played some really solid defense yesterday on curry.

I tend to agree. I like Collison a touch higher for the reasons you stated but I'd be OK with either guy. Either one of these guys on a 3-4 year deal starting in the $3-3.5mm range is good value. Potential to be VERY GOOD if either guy could take it to another level given more playing time and responsibility (distinct possibility).. To me these possibilities make each guy attractive for that kind of money.

I hope you are right but I see Collison wanting more money. PG's are in high demand and this is the off season to cash out.

fitzfarm wrote:How about trying to get Perrier Jackson... I don't think it would take much of a trade ... And the guy is super talented, could even be a star in the nba.