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holfresh
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4/29/2014  4:00 PM
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/10856678/new-york-knicks-want-complete-steve-kerr-deal-first-round-nba-playoffs

The New York Knicks are trying to complete a deal with TNT's Steve Kerr that would install him as their new coach after the first round of the playoffs, according to sources with knowledge of the talks.

Sources told ESPN.com on Tuesday that the intention of new Knicks president Phil Jackson is to secure Kerr as his first coaching hire by early next month, which would theoretically soften the blow for the announcer's current employer to withstand losing its No. 1 analyst in the midst of the playoffs.


It remains to be seen whether Kerr is willing to make the jump so quickly.

Sources say Jackson has made significant progress in his longstanding plan to convince Kerr that the time is right to make the jump from broadcasting to coaching and accept one of the league's most high-profile jobs despite having no prior bench experience.

There has been considerable speculation since the playoffs began that the delay also stems from Kerr waiting to see what other jobs might open depending on playoff results.

NBA coaching sources have maintained for weeks that the Golden State Warriors have strong interest in Kerr should they elect to part ways with Mark Jackson after a 51-win season, given Kerr's strong relationships with Warriors owner Joe Lacob, son Kirk Lacob (who works in Golden State's front office) and Warriors president Rick Welts, with whom Kerr worked closely in Phoenix.

But sources repeated that the Knicks, because of the former Chicago Bulls guard's close relationship with Jackson, are the clear front-runners to land Kerr.

Sources say that the opportunity to be mentored by the winningest coach of all time, along with Kerr's deep fondness for Jackson, have established New York as Kerr's most likely landing spot.

In contrast to the larger skepticism around the league about Jackson's ability to lead the Knicks back to contention despite having no prior front-office experience, Kerr has expressed confidence that his former coach will be a hit in his new line of work.

If the Knicks were to miss out on Kerr, coaching insiders have struggled to pinpoint where Jackson would turn next, given his small circle of confidantes and the fact that no one else available from Jackson's circle would clearly appear to meet his stated desire to hire "a personality" who has "charismatic appeal" and a "forward-looking idea about the game."

Kerr and Jackson met twice over the weekend to discuss the job.

"We will keep talking," Kerr said Sunday before working Game 4 of the Toronto-Brooklyn series. "There is a lot to cover on both sides. This was the first time we've talked about the job. It just opened up last week. We've got a lot of things to discuss."

Kerr would not address how he feels about the team's roster and what appeals to him about the possibility of coaching the Knicks, who fired Mike Woodson shortly after their season ended. But Kerr reiterated his interest in becoming a head coach to reporters and acknowledged that coaching the Knicks and working for Jackson intrigues him.

"How could it not?" he said. "It's the Knicks and Phil Jackson, my coach. I would be crazy not to look into it."

Kerr said both he and Jackson have a lot of questions for each other pertaining to the job that still need to be discussed. Kerr served as general manager of the Suns from 2007 to 2010 but has never coached at any level.

"I know Phil [said] we shared the same space, which I think is well said," Kerr said when asked if he'd have to use the triangle offense if he coaches the Knicks. "We share a lot of the same philosophies. I learned a lot of my basketball from him and Tex Winter.

"It is safe to say that we have a lot of the same ideas. As far as getting into the details of the triangle and that sort of thing, I am not going to expand on that. Obviously there is a strong connection between us and our beliefs."

If the parties can complete a deal, Kerr would join Jackson as the Knicks' lead recruiters in trying to persuade free agent-to-be Carmelo Anthony to stay in New York. Anthony will become a free agent July 1 if, as expected, he opts out of his contract.

Kerr, though, resisted all questions Sunday about the Knicks' roster.

"Those are details that have to be private," Kerr said. "Those are things that Phil and I are going to discuss further, all kinds of things, organizationally, personnel-wise, but those discussions are all private."

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4/29/2014  4:08 PM
Kerr is going to milk Dolan..........
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4/29/2014  4:10 PM
While I'm not thrilled with the idea of Kerr as coach of the Knicks, I'm excited by the fact that Phil is wasting no time establishing a culture and infrastructure within the organization.
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4/29/2014  4:30 PM
After 1st round like I thought nice
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4/29/2014  4:34 PM
Report Cartwright is being considered for assistant position. Played and was assistant in Chicago.
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4/29/2014  4:37 PM
Nalod wrote:Report Cartwright is being considered for assistant position. Played and was assistant in Chicago.

backup ex knicks centers have done great on the bench

Kidding. I like Cartrwright - would be a good hire.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/29/2014  4:46 PM
I wouldnt be surprised if Cleamons, Rambis, Harper and even fisher were brought in too
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4/29/2014  5:10 PM
Phil and Kerr would be a very powerful tandem. Kerr has GM experience and Phil coaching. They could really help each other and be a tight duo. The rest of the staff is likely to be very experienced coaches and thus reinforce Phil's concepts. I'm happy to see a cohesive management team coming together to build a strong org and culture that can last for years like the Spurs.
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4/29/2014  5:32 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/29/2014  6:01 PM
Will kerr try to bring in his shooting guru, Chip Engelland, who is on staff with the spurs? Phil likes to stick it to the spurs however the guru used to date Jeannie Buss back in the day.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jun/12/sports/la-sp-0613-chip-engelland-spurs-20130613

Using lessons he learned as a gym rat, Engelland is considered at least partially responsible for Leonard's shooting better in the NBA than he did at San Diego State.

The 6-foot-7 forward has never been considered a deft shooter, and still isn't. He's best known in these NBA playoffs as a player responsible for holding Miami Heat star LeBron James to his worst three-game scoring output in more than two years.

However, Leonard has also been the Spurs second-most efficient scorer during the postseason. His 53.7% shooting trails only center Tiago Splitter among the Spurs, and his 39.1% shooting from three-point range is third among rotation players.

Perimeter shooting was a knock against Leonard when he was drafted out of San Diego State in 2011. In college, he never shot better than 45.5%. But in two years under Engelland's tutelage he's shot nearly 50%.

Please come and help Shump


http://www.48minutesofhell.com/the-ball-tells-the-truth-an-interview-with-chip-engelland

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1997-05-17/sports/9705170060_1_nba-history-continental-basketball-association-world-basketball-league

Midway through the 1993-94 season, his first with the Bulls, Steve Kerr was struggling.

All he wanted to do was find a good restaurant, sit down to dinner with his wife, Margot, and a boyhood friend and forget about another subpar shooting game. And then the friend spoke up.

"I asked him if he minded if I made a suggestion," recalls Chip Engelland. "Steve said no problem. It wasn't anything major, but he applied what I suggested and got on a real roll. That started a rapport."

http://grantland.com/features/the-shot-doctor/


“He understands that a big part of shooting is the shooter’s mind,” Kerr said, and a moment toward the end of Kerr’s career provided such an example. With Kerr playing reduced minutes in Portland as a 36-year-old during the 2001-02 campaign, he found himself struggling to stay loose for meaningful shooting opportunities. Kerr told Engelland about his problem and the shooting expert flew up and offered a solution: a 30-minute, seven-shot workout. Kerr and Engelland would sit alone on the bench in the Portland practice facility after everybody else had left. Engelland would ask Kerr to tell him what was going on with his kids or even leave him to read a newspaper. After a few minutes, Engelland would shout at Kerr to go, and the two would sprint off the bench and set Kerr up for a single 3-point attempt from the wing before returning to the bench. Repeat six more times and you’ve got the league’s most unlikely — and simultaneously most logical — shooting workout. A typical shooting coach, Kerr said, would have noted his struggles and told him to take 200 shots from a variety of spots to try to regain his physical rhythm. Instead, Engelland put himself in Kerr’s shoes to help refresh Kerr’s mental timing.
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4/29/2014  5:45 PM
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4/29/2014  7:20 PM
Nalod wrote:Report Cartwright is being considered for assistant position. Played and was assistant in Chicago.

Is phil choosing assistants or is the coach? Seems a bit strange to interview assistants when you don't officially have a head coach in place.

This whole era will not be by the book (which is exciting actually).

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/29/2014  7:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/29/2014  7:43 PM
mreinman wrote:
Nalod wrote:Report Cartwright is being considered for assistant position. Played and was assistant in Chicago.

Is phil choosing assistants or is the coach? Seems a bit strange to interview assistants when you don't officially have a head coach in place.

This whole era will not be by the book (which is exciting actually).

Phil and Kerr are part of the same circle. It would only be a problem if Phil hired Mark Jackson, doc, Thibs, Vogel or JVG. That's why he is going with Kerr. One of his guys. Why plant the seed of GM/coach conflict when you everyone can be in sync from day one.

I know being in tune is a foreign concept to most Knicks fans since we've haven't had such a thing since the 70s but believe me everything is going to be ok

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4/29/2014  7:41 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Nalod wrote:Report Cartwright is being considered for assistant position. Played and was assistant in Chicago.

Is phil choosing assistants or is the coach? Seems a bit strange to interview assistants when you don't officially have a head coach in place.

This whole era will not be by the book (which is exciting actually).

Phil and Kerr are part of the same circle. It would only be a problem if Phil hired Mark Jackson, doc, Thibs, Vogel or JVG. That's why he is going with Kerr. One of his guys. Why plant the seed of GM/cosh conflict when you everyone can be in sync from day one.

I know being in tune is a foreign concept to most Knicks fans since we've haven't had such a thing since the 70s but believe me everything is going to be ok

This will be interesting in the sense that if Kerr runs the triangle and he bombs as a coach, Phil will be pressured to take the reins..

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4/29/2014  7:42 PM
holfresh wrote:This will be interesting in the sense that if Kerr runs the triangle and he bombs as a coach, Phil will be pressured to take the reins..

Only if Kerr bombs and that's a great prospect to fall back on. Phil could coach the rest of the year and then hire or promote a new.

I think it's important to remember that Phil got a 5yr deal and we shouldn't be expecting to contend for a championship in year 1

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4/29/2014  7:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/29/2014  7:49 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:This will be interesting in the sense that if Kerr runs the triangle and he bombs as a coach, Phil will be pressured to take the reins..

Only if Kerr bombs and that's a great prospect to fall back on. Phil could coach the rest of the year and then hire or promote a new.

I think it's important to remember that Phil got a 5yr deal and we shouldn't be expecting to contend for a championship in year

I think Phil gets destroyed in this town if he promotes two non experienced guys to run the triangle here..I think it's a huge gamble on his part if he doesn't want to coach again given the number of good coaches that may become available after quickly installing Kerr..

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4/29/2014  7:49 PM
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:This will be interesting in the sense that if Kerr runs the triangle and he bombs as a coach, Phil will be pressured to take the reins..

Only if Kerr bombs and that's a great prospect to fall back on. Phil could coach the rest of the year and then hire or promote a new.

I think it's important to remember that Phil got a 5yr deal and we shouldn't be expecting to contend for a championship in year 1

I think Phil gets destroyed in this town if he promotes two non experienced guy to run the triangle here..

I am not convinced that he will actually run the traditional triangle. Analytic's have come a long way since he coached and I hope he will use all the data and not just stay old school.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/29/2014  7:51 PM
mreinman wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:This will be interesting in the sense that if Kerr runs the triangle and he bombs as a coach, Phil will be pressured to take the reins..

Only if Kerr bombs and that's a great prospect to fall back on. Phil could coach the rest of the year and then hire or promote a new.

I think it's important to remember that Phil got a 5yr deal and we shouldn't be expecting to contend for a championship in year 1

I think Phil gets destroyed in this town if he promotes two non experienced guy to run the triangle here..

I am not convinced that he will actually run the traditional triangle. Analytic's have come a long way since he coached and I hope he will use all the data and not just stay old school.

Analytics?..In what sense?..How has it affected today's coaching?

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4/29/2014  8:01 PM
holfresh wrote:
mreinman wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:This will be interesting in the sense that if Kerr runs the triangle and he bombs as a coach, Phil will be pressured to take the reins..

Only if Kerr bombs and that's a great prospect to fall back on. Phil could coach the rest of the year and then hire or promote a new.

I think it's important to remember that Phil got a 5yr deal and we shouldn't be expecting to contend for a championship in year 1

I think Phil gets destroyed in this town if he promotes two non experienced guy to run the triangle here..

I am not convinced that he will actually run the traditional triangle. Analytic's have come a long way since he coached and I hope he will use all the data and not just stay old school.

Analytics?..In what sense?..How has it affected today's coaching?

You don't think that Analytics has changed the style of many offenses? Pretty much every team have analytics people that report on every percentage and advantage. This is not new.

Houston
Dallas
Portland
NJ

Just to name a few ...

Many teams are taking fewer long 2's and rely heavily on shot charts and point value.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/29/2014  8:09 PM
mreinman wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mreinman wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:This will be interesting in the sense that if Kerr runs the triangle and he bombs as a coach, Phil will be pressured to take the reins..

Only if Kerr bombs and that's a great prospect to fall back on. Phil could coach the rest of the year and then hire or promote a new.

I think it's important to remember that Phil got a 5yr deal and we shouldn't be expecting to contend for a championship in year 1

I think Phil gets destroyed in this town if he promotes two non experienced guy to run the triangle here..

I am not convinced that he will actually run the traditional triangle. Analytic's have come a long way since he coached and I hope he will use all the data and not just stay old school.

Analytics?..In what sense?..How has it affected today's coaching?

You don't think that Analytics has changed the style of many offenses? Pretty much every team have analytics people that report on every percentage and advantage. This is not new.

Houston
Dallas
Portland
NJ

Just to name a few ...

Many teams are taking fewer long 2's and rely heavily on shot charts and point value.

There is an article about player and ball movement out. I m on my phone but I'll try to post it later.

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4/29/2014  8:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/29/2014  8:10 PM
mreinman wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mreinman wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:This will be interesting in the sense that if Kerr runs the triangle and he bombs as a coach, Phil will be pressured to take the reins..

Only if Kerr bombs and that's a great prospect to fall back on. Phil could coach the rest of the year and then hire or promote a new.

I think it's important to remember that Phil got a 5yr deal and we shouldn't be expecting to contend for a championship in year 1

I think Phil gets destroyed in this town if he promotes two non experienced guy to run the triangle here..

I am not convinced that he will actually run the traditional triangle. Analytic's have come a long way since he coached and I hope he will use all the data and not just stay old school.

Analytics?..In what sense?..How has it affected today's coaching?

You don't think that Analytics has changed the style of many offenses? Pretty much every team have analytics people that report on every percentage and advantage. This is not new.

Houston
Dallas
Portland
NJ

Just to name a few ...

Many teams are taking fewer long 2's and rely heavily on shot charts and point value.

No, I disagree but how many if those teams have won anything for Phil to think his style of coaching has gone by the wayside?..I'll say it's a copycat league tho..

Knicks trying to install Kerr as coach after first round...

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