CrushAlot wrote:They already have had protests outside the Garden to terminate Isiah. It didn't work. Dolan seems to become more stubborn and set on getting the last word when others are telling him what to do even if it is obvious.

I see how powerful online petitions can be. I'm not a 19 year old idiot threatening anyone. I'm a smart 45 year old who is willing to pool resources together to form a rationale based letter directed to the leadership of nba operations in a clear cut message

BRIGGS wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:They already have had protests outside the Garden to terminate Isiah. It didn't work. Dolan seems to become more stubborn and set on getting the last word when others are telling him what to do even if it is obvious.

I see how powerful online petitions can be. I'm not a 19 year old idiot threatening anyone. I'm a smart 45 year old who is willing to pool resources together to form a rationale based letter directed to the leadership of nba operations in a clear cut message

We will never be able to build a contending team, we need to collect assets, develop players, preserve cap room, and THEN SIGN stars to that team
It is the path that EVERY TEAM in the NBA is doing and that is why EVERY TEAM in the entire NBA has the brighter future than us
That is what the Pacer's, Clippers, Portland, Houston, SA, Miami, Bulls, and the up coming teams like Orlando, Washington, Philly, they tried starphucking but quickly admitted their mistake and reversed it by collecting assets

It is bad when The Bobcats have a brighter future than us

It is obvious and written already, but Dolan feels he should find BIG NAMES by overpaying first, which will not work

Dolan does the complete opposite and he is a control freak, he is the biggest part of our failure to properly build a team
We are a mess, their stock is still rising, but it will fall as he is looking to resign Melo ( or lose him for nothing which he had the last chance fixing this past deadline)
All of which leads us to the lack of talent to ever compete, the path he is choosing we will always lack talent to ever compete with playoff contenders

You cannot help someone that doesn't want to listen, admit failure, and doesn't learn from his past mistakes, it is something he must realize and do on his own
With the new CBA rules, he cannot repeat the same mistakes he did during the Isiah years with the trades/length of contracts, and inability to trade once in the tax threshold

At least Brooklyn is trying to win and willing to go ALL IN to please the fans to put the best product up possible, even by BUYING it at a premium price
For that, they will eventually win the next generation of the fan base around NYK and around the world, while we will continue to lose

We had a chance to still be a competitor by keeping Lin, instead we let him go, make more dumb trades, and invite CAA to take over the franchise
Grunweld knew this, he couldn't persuade Dolan to realize it while Woodson sided with Melo instead of doing what is best for the franchise's future
Watch every other NBA team play, you can see we do not play as a team, in fact watch OKC and Clippers on right now....
We lack the talent, philosophy, and players to be able to compete, yet we continue to mortgage our future, for this **** product

Our best chance is if Dolan is persuaded by McKinsey, to reinvent our management/coaching, as we are a corrupt and incompetent organization
Let's see what takes place but I feel a starphuck is coming, then repeatedly overpay for talent/trades for marginal talent, and continued trades where we have no leverage, being forced to overpay for **** talent

I did have a plan, to reinvent the entire organization and would see results by 2015, but it would have had to take place this deadline
Lets hope Melo looks to leave NY but is willing to convince the next team to trade and trade for him with 2 late 1st round picks, maybe only 1
I think he knows where he is going already and it is not in NYK...

Unless Melo, STAT both opt out of contracts, taking less
Tyson Chandler gets traded to a team that is willing to take the final year of his contract with a trade exemption or some assets and expirings, possibly same thing with AB or using the stretch provision on him
On top of all this convince Lebron to be the #1 with Melo as the #2 here in NYK this summer, which I still don't think would be good enough to compete with Indiana's depth, chemistry, and overall talent

BRIGGS wrote:Is to put together a note co signed by hundred of thousands of knick fans in a petition letter to both David stern and Adam silver about the removal of James Dolan from the basketball operations of the team. As in he will have no say. The team and its fans have realized material loss of capital and emotional resource over a 15 year period and the only uptick was brought on by the leagues actions to hire D Walsh. Since that time Dolan has started up again. Firing gm glen Grunwald and not making moves directed by top level management. Also there seems to be a conflict of interest between MSG and caa which is not in the fans best interests. The nba game is supposed to be about fans watching good quality basketball and for 15 years while knick fans have paid the highest prices in terms of tix and cable tv. MSG. We have not received fair value back from our collective material investment that has made billions for James Dolan and only MSG shareholders. My name is Eric naarden and I'm willing to put up 5k of my own$ to start a fair and reasonable campaign to remove this man from taking part of 1further basketball decisions. While fans were paying money to watch the knicks lose this man was on tour with his band. Does this sound like a person who should have any say15 years says no. You guys help put this together. Well put some money together and we will and can get this man who has proven that he has zero basketball operational acumen over a 15 year period moved out of any role for the basketball side of business

The guy the NBA supposedly hired to right the franchise brought in the wrong coach then gave Amare 100 mil...It's the primary reason we suck right now...Now we look forward to 2015 when his deal rolls off...

holfresh wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Is to put together a note co signed by hundred of thousands of knick fans in a petition letter to both David stern and Adam silver about the removal of James Dolan from the basketball operations of the team. As in he will have no say. The team and its fans have realized material loss of capital and emotional resource over a 15 year period and the only uptick was brought on by the leagues actions to hire D Walsh. Since that time Dolan has started up again. Firing gm glen Grunwald and not making moves directed by top level management. Also there seems to be a conflict of interest between MSG and caa which is not in the fans best interests. The nba game is supposed to be about fans watching good quality basketball and for 15 years while knick fans have paid the highest prices in terms of tix and cable tv. MSG. We have not received fair value back from our collective material investment that has made billions for James Dolan and only MSG shareholders. My name is Eric naarden and I'm willing to put up 5k of my own$ to start a fair and reasonable campaign to remove this man from taking part of 1further basketball decisions. While fans were paying money to watch the knicks lose this man was on tour with his band. Does this sound like a person who should have any say15 years says no. You guys help put this together. Well put some money together and we will and can get this man who has proven that he has zero basketball operational acumen over a 15 year period moved out of any role for the basketball side of business

The guy the NBA supposedly hired to right the franchise brought in the wrong coach then gave Amare 100 mil...It's the primary reason we suck right now...Now we look forward to 2015 when his deal rolls off...

No, Melo and Amare would never work together, they are both flawed players, while we traded half a team + 3 picks and a swap, on top of selling low for our players and buying high for one player

Amare was signed before Lebron announced he was joining the Heat
By signing Amare, Walsh hoped to sign another ALL STAR or trade for one *at the right price*
He wanted to fill the seats like Dolan wanted but still try to build a contender, on top of giving Dantoni players to use for his system

He is part of the problem but NOT bigger than the trade for Melo and all the moves we were forced to make with no leverage after it

Continue to deflect what Melo isn't, a SUPERSTAR to build around......

holfresh wrote:

RonRon wrote:

holfresh wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Is to put together a note co signed by hundred of thousands of knick fans in a petition letter to both David stern and Adam silver about the removal of James Dolan from the basketball operations of the team. As in he will have no say. The team and its fans have realized material loss of capital and emotional resource over a 15 year period and the only uptick was brought on by the leagues actions to hire D Walsh. Since that time Dolan has started up again. Firing gm glen Grunwald and not making moves directed by top level management. Also there seems to be a conflict of interest between MSG and caa which is not in the fans best interests. The nba game is supposed to be about fans watching good quality basketball and for 15 years while knick fans have paid the highest prices in terms of tix and cable tv. MSG. We have not received fair value back from our collective material investment that has made billions for James Dolan and only MSG shareholders. My name is Eric naarden and I'm willing to put up 5k of my own$ to start a fair and reasonable campaign to remove this man from taking part of 1further basketball decisions. While fans were paying money to watch the knicks lose this man was on tour with his band. Does this sound like a person who should have any say15 years says no. You guys help put this together. Well put some money together and we will and can get this man who has proven that he has zero basketball operational acumen over a 15 year period moved out of any role for the basketball side of business

The guy the NBA supposedly hired to right the franchise brought in the wrong coach then gave Amare 100 mil...It's the primary reason we suck right now...Now we look forward to 2015 when his deal rolls off...

No, Melo and Amare would never work together, they are both flawed players, while we traded half a team + 3 picks and a swap, on top of selling low for our players and buying high for one player

Amare was signed before Lebron announced he was joining the Heat
By signing Amare, Walsh hoped to sign another ALL STAR or trade for one *at the right price*
He wanted to fill the seats like Dolan wanted but still try to build a contender, on top of giving Dantoni players to use for his system

He is part of the problem but NOT bigger than the trade for Melo and all the moves we were forced to make with no leverage after it

Continue to deflect what Melo isn't, a SUPERSTAR to build around......

Two major issues have us here now and u don't have to agree..We hired MDA who needed a pick and roll PF for his highly specialized style of play...In comes Amare...MDA's defensive system sucked so bad that we needed to go out and get Chandler to sure up the defense instead of a legit PG...MDA had 4 HOF players last year and couldn't make heads or tails of them because he couldn't run a pick and roll offense...He was blaming DHow and Gasol for the Lakers problems...

Now please explain to me how trading for Melo hurt this team when Wilson Chandler is playing his first full season since the trade 3 years ago, Gallo is and will be out of action a year and half...And please explain how flawed Melo is giving you 28 points 9 rebounds per game, never been done since Shaq...If you are not KD or LBJ then you are flawed..

Do you really want to talk about selling low and buying high??...Care to examine Walsh's deals while he had total control???..We managed to trade ZBo, DLee and Craw and didn't get 1 pick from those players, not one pick???

it doesn't matter what I say, You will continue your BS nomatter what I say

holfresh wrote:

RonRon wrote:

holfresh wrote:

RonRon wrote:

holfresh wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Is to put together a note co signed by hundred of thousands of knick fans in a petition letter to both David stern and Adam silver about the removal of James Dolan from the basketball operations of the team. As in he will have no say. The team and its fans have realized material loss of capital and emotional resource over a 15 year period and the only uptick was brought on by the leagues actions to hire D Walsh. Since that time Dolan has started up again. Firing gm glen Grunwald and not making moves directed by top level management. Also there seems to be a conflict of interest between MSG and caa which is not in the fans best interests. The nba game is supposed to be about fans watching good quality basketball and for 15 years while knick fans have paid the highest prices in terms of tix and cable tv. MSG. We have not received fair value back from our collective material investment that has made billions for James Dolan and only MSG shareholders. My name is Eric naarden and I'm willing to put up 5k of my own$ to start a fair and reasonable campaign to remove this man from taking part of 1further basketball decisions. While fans were paying money to watch the knicks lose this man was on tour with his band. Does this sound like a person who should have any say15 years says no. You guys help put this together. Well put some money together and we will and can get this man who has proven that he has zero basketball operational acumen over a 15 year period moved out of any role for the basketball side of business

The guy the NBA supposedly hired to right the franchise brought in the wrong coach then gave Amare 100 mil...It's the primary reason we suck right now...Now we look forward to 2015 when his deal rolls off...

No, Melo and Amare would never work together, they are both flawed players, while we traded half a team + 3 picks and a swap, on top of selling low for our players and buying high for one player

Amare was signed before Lebron announced he was joining the Heat
By signing Amare, Walsh hoped to sign another ALL STAR or trade for one *at the right price*
He wanted to fill the seats like Dolan wanted but still try to build a contender, on top of giving Dantoni players to use for his system

He is part of the problem but NOT bigger than the trade for Melo and all the moves we were forced to make with no leverage after it

Continue to deflect what Melo isn't, a SUPERSTAR to build around......

Two major issues have us here now and u don't have to agree..We hired MDA who needed a pick and roll PF for his highly specialized style of play...In comes Amare...MDA's defensive system sucked so bad that we needed to go out and get Chandler to sure up the defense instead of a legit PG...MDA had 4 HOF players last year and couldn't make heads or tails of them because he couldn't run a pick and roll offense...He was blaming DHow and Gasol for the Lakers problems...

Now please explain to me how trading for Melo hurt this team when Wilson Chandler is playing his first full season since the trade 3 years ago, Gallo is and will be out of action a year and half...And please explain how flawed Melo is giving you 28 points 9 rebounds per game, never been done since Shaq...If you are not KD or LBJ then you are flawed..

Do you really want to talk about selling low and buying high??...Care to examine Walsh's deals while he had total control???..We managed to trade ZBo, DLee and Craw and didn't get 1 pick from those players, not one pick???

it doesn't matter what I say, You will continue your BS nomatter what I say

I roll is facts not hypothesis...

I have explained it countless times, you continue to post the same garbage

Despite our record, our lack of assets, all the moves we have made from the trade for Melo to now you give 0% of how he could have been prevented it
ALL FOR 1 year of GUARANTEED MONEY SO HE CAN OPT OUT OF THAT GUARANTEED YEAR

Explain that, facts