"I want to win a ring, if I have to become a free agent to do so, i will"

The operative word is "I". Not the Knicks. I.

Get Chicago on the phone. Immediately.

misterearl wrote:96 Million

"As far as the money, it don't really matter to me. If I go somewhere else, I get paid. If I stay in New York, I get paid. As far as the money goes, it's not my concern. My concern is to be able to compete on a high level, a championship level, coming in this last stretch of my career. I want to compete at that level."

The operative word is championship

In other words, lets stop the bull**** around here with the MDA loving Gallo plan and Donny horrific presentation to Bron, etc...Let's act like a first class organization and get with the program...Last 10 years would never happen in Lakerland...I hope he holds Dolan's feet to the fire until he comes up with a plan...

misterearl wrote:Holfresh - exactly

Until a plan is set, fans in The Garden need to institute a "Doh-Laaan" chant.

Have a plan to acquire quality starters plus one sixth man.

Trade Carmelo or lose him for nothing.

You do the math.

misterearl wrote:The Trade Deadline is Thursday February 20

Either Dolan starts clearing the decks for subsequent off season moves or we stand pat.

How far is the leap from being a lottery team with no lottery pick... to an NBA championship?

CrushAlot wrote:

misterearl wrote:Holfresh - exactly

Until a plan is set, fans in The Garden need to institute a "Doh-Laaan" chant.

Have a plan to acquire four quality starters plus one sixth man to put around number 7.

Trade Carmelo or lose him for nothing.

You do the math.

I don't think you trade Melo. There aren't many close to his level in the nba. I think you have a plan to make the team better around him. The problem is can the management/ownership group get this done. I think they have a better chance of making it work then doing it by dumping Melo and trying to draft the right guys. Not sure how Mills drafts but Walsh was horrible at it when he was in NY. The best center draft in decades landed the Knicks a guy that played the same position as Wilson Chandler and allegedly had already had back problems. The best point guard draft in recent memory landed the Knicks Jordan Hill who subsequently was traded with the Knicks top 3 protected pick to dump salary. And the second round where he could have taken a chance on first round talent that needed to develop, he went with the oldest guy in the draft that wasn't supposed to be picked and could have been a camp invite if the Knicks were so hot on having a short, slow 24 year old three point shooter as their 15th man.

CrushAlot wrote:

misterearl wrote:Holfresh - exactly

Until a plan is set, fans in The Garden need to institute a "Doh-Laaan" chant.

Have a plan to acquire four quality starters plus one sixth man to put around number 7.

Trade Carmelo or lose him for nothing.

You do the math.

I don't think you trade Melo. There aren't many close to his level in the nba. I think you have a plan to make the team better around him. The problem is can the management/ownership group get this done. I think they have a better chance of making it work then doing it by dumping Melo and trying to draft the right guys. Not sure how Mills drafts but Walsh was horrible at it when he was in NY. The best center draft in decades landed the Knicks a guy that played the same position as Wilson Chandler and allegedly had already had back problems. The best point guard draft in recent memory landed the Knicks Jordan Hill who subsequently was traded with the Knicks top 3 protected pick to dump salary. And the second round where he could have taken a chance on first round talent that needed to develop, he went with the oldest guy in the draft that wasn't supposed to be picked and could have been a camp invite if the Knicks were so hot on having a short, slow 24 year old three point shooter as their 15th man.

I was listening to a caller saying this would wake up knick management to get a plan to improve the team around Melo- that they have failed with recent moves.

But what is left for them to do? They've shot their load- there are no draft picks left. There is no cap. Bargs was the only real deal left. CAA also has its hands around the franchise.

the best plan to build around Melo? Stink up the joint next year and get as good a draft pick as possible- and hope that player can be a stud next to Melo- dump the garbage we have and wait to sign a game changer.

misterearl wrote:Holfresh - exactly

Until a plan is set, fans in The Garden need to institute a "Doh-Laaan" chant.

Have a plan to acquire four quality starters plus one sixth man to put around number 7.

Trade Carmelo or lose him for nothing.

You do the math.

trade carmelo unless he plays for 13-14 million a year.

Bonn1997 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

misterearl wrote:Holfresh - exactly

Until a plan is set, fans in The Garden need to institute a "Doh-Laaan" chant.

Have a plan to acquire four quality starters plus one sixth man to put around number 7.

Trade Carmelo or lose him for nothing.

You do the math.

I don't think you trade Melo. There aren't many close to his level in the nba. I think you have a plan to make the team better around him. The problem is can the management/ownership group get this done. I think they have a better chance of making it work then doing it by dumping Melo and trying to draft the right guys. Not sure how Mills drafts but Walsh was horrible at it when he was in NY. The best center draft in decades landed the Knicks a guy that played the same position as Wilson Chandler and allegedly had already had back problems. The best point guard draft in recent memory landed the Knicks Jordan Hill who subsequently was traded with the Knicks top 3 protected pick to dump salary. And the second round where he could have taken a chance on first round talent that needed to develop, he went with the oldest guy in the draft that wasn't supposed to be picked and could have been a camp invite if the Knicks were so hot on having a short, slow 24 year old three point shooter as their 15th man.

The problem with Melo is that although he is a top 3 scorer he has weaknesses in other parts of the game. Still a great talent just isnt quite there with lebron durant

No one else is either. If you have a guy like Melo you do everything you can to keep him. The Knicks don't draft well and they don't trade well. They rehired the guy that was over the era of horrible mismanagement to be their gm. I don't trust him or the owner with trying to do a traditional rebuild.

Then why would you trust him to build higher than a .390 team around Melo?
The organization doesn't do anything well but I'd say drafting is the only thing it's done decently actually.

CrushAlot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

misterearl wrote:Holfresh - exactly

Until a plan is set, fans in The Garden need to institute a "Doh-Laaan" chant.

Have a plan to acquire four quality starters plus one sixth man to put around number 7.

Trade Carmelo or lose him for nothing.

You do the math.

I don't think you trade Melo. There aren't many close to his level in the nba. I think you have a plan to make the team better around him. The problem is can the management/ownership group get this done. I think they have a better chance of making it work then doing it by dumping Melo and trying to draft the right guys. Not sure how Mills drafts but Walsh was horrible at it when he was in NY. The best center draft in decades landed the Knicks a guy that played the same position as Wilson Chandler and allegedly had already had back problems. The best point guard draft in recent memory landed the Knicks Jordan Hill who subsequently was traded with the Knicks top 3 protected pick to dump salary. And the second round where he could have taken a chance on first round talent that needed to develop, he went with the oldest guy in the draft that wasn't supposed to be picked and could have been a camp invite if the Knicks were so hot on having a short, slow 24 year old three point shooter as their 15th man.

The problem with Melo is that although he is a top 3 scorer he has weaknesses in other parts of the game. Still a great talent just isnt quite there with lebron durant

No one else is either. If you have a guy like Melo you do everything you can to keep him. The Knicks don't draft well and they don't trade well. They rehired the guy that was over the era of horrible mismanagement to be their gm. I don't trust him or the owner with trying to do a traditional rebuild.

Then why would you trust him to build higher than a .390 team around Melo?
The organization doesn't do anything well but I'd say drafting is the only thing it's done decently actually.

I think Walsh could have built a team that would have had staying power as a contender if he drafted right. Knicks could have had a point guard, a center and a shooting guard that all will be or should be all stars this year had he not missed so badly. Imagine replacing Felton with a quality point guard, Tyson with a real quality center, and Shump with Lance Stephenson. No way do I trust the Knicks to draft well.

CrushAlot wrote:

misterearl wrote:Holfresh - exactly

Until a plan is set, fans in The Garden need to institute a "Doh-Laaan" chant.

Have a plan to acquire four quality starters plus one sixth man to put around number 7.

Trade Carmelo or lose him for nothing.

You do the math.

I don't think you trade Melo. There aren't many close to his level in the nba. I think you have a plan to make the team better around him. The problem is can the management/ownership group get this done. I think they have a better chance of making it work then doing it by dumping Melo and trying to draft the right guys. Not sure how Mills drafts but Walsh was horrible at it when he was in NY. The best center draft in decades landed the Knicks a guy that played the same position as Wilson Chandler and allegedly had already had back problems. The best point guard draft in recent memory landed the Knicks Jordan Hill who subsequently was traded with the Knicks top 3 protected pick to dump salary. And the second round where he could have taken a chance on first round talent that needed to develop, he went with the oldest guy in the draft that wasn't supposed to be picked and could have been a camp invite if the Knicks were so hot on having a short, slow 24 year old three point shooter as their 15th man.

good job at muddying the waters as usual. dolan and isaiah made the knicks a laughingstock and walsh was brought in to right the ship at stern's "request." the knicks were once a proud flagship franchise and dolan has made it a farce.

at least with walsh you had some sort of plan to flush away the crap that isaiah and dolan created. was the process perfect? hell no. but there was at least a plan, an outline. this plan was summarily spooged by dolan and melo and voila! we have this **** show.

i think you trade melo.