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2/10/2014  12:35 PM
http://hoops-nation.com/nba-rumors-bulls-talking-carmelo-anthony-trade-knicks/

Just posting this for what its worth...discuss!

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2/10/2014  12:43 PM
Not reliable at all.
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2/10/2014  12:59 PM
The report states that the Bulls would be giving up Carlos Boozer, Kirk Hinrich, Tony Snell, Jimmy Butler, and likely a first round pick as well. In return, Chicago would receive Carmelo Anthony, Raymond Felton, and Iman Shumpert. Obviously this is a huge trade that would change the future of both teams dramatically. Chicago is still able to compete with some of the good teams in the NBA despite missing Derrick Rose, and adding Carmelo Anthony might very well be the move that keeps their season alive.

New York would be receiving a good package in return for Melo with this trade. Jimmy Butler has shown flashes of becoming a special player, and rookie Tony Snell has also proven to be a very solid wing player. Hinrich would be a solid veteran piece to add to the roster, and Boozer would be a large expiring contract next offseason. The Knicks would be getting a very similar type of package to the deal that they gave up in the first place to Denver in the original Carmelo Anthony trade.

Once again, the two sides are discussing a deal that they are hoping that they can figure out before the trade deadline. There are many complications that the two sides are trying to work through, including what the Knicks want exactly in return. In addition to the players involved, the two sides will have to agree on the picks that will be involved as well.

Overall, this trade is something that is being discussed, but has not become imminent as of yet. These talks do have traction according to the source, and the two sides are in daily conversations about the deal. Expect more information to come out over the next few weeks, but this is certainly something to keep an eye on.
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2/10/2014  1:00 PM
If they're gonna go this route and move on without Melo, this is what needs to be done. It needs to be a trade. Absolutely, positively CANNOT let this guy walk for nothing -- I don't care if all we can get is a package that's below what we gave to get him, this is how it needs to be handled. Step 2 -- immediately after hanging up the phone with the Bulls, we call the Lakers and gauge their interest -- gotta get them involved in this too. Seek out other teams as well. Drive the price up as high as it can possibly go.

It'll be sad because I actually like Melo -- he's a star and I think we can win it all with him if we can get some better pieces around him. In a way, we're lucky to have him...If they don't think that's possible though, then yeah, it needs to be a TRADE...My big thing here -- very leery about having Steve Mills in charge of this endeavor. Wish we had someone better qualified to oversee such a big move.

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2/10/2014  1:02 PM
Bulls core of:

Rose, Melo, Noah

KNicks get Stat, Booze and Tyson all off the books at once?

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2/10/2014  1:05 PM
Nalod wrote:Bulls core of:

Rose, Melo, Noah

KNicks get Stat, Booze and Tyson all off the books at once?

Not bad. It's a start. Call up the Lakers now and see what they offer.

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2/10/2014  1:07 PM
Finestrg wrote:If they're gonna go this route and move on without Melo, this is what needs to be done. It needs to be a trade. Absolutely, positively CANNOT let this guy walk for nothing -- I don't care if all we can get is a package that's below what we gave to get him, this is how it needs to be handled. Step 2 -- immediately after hanging up the phone with the Bulls, we call the Lakers and gauge their interest -- gotta get them involved in this too. Seek out other teams as well. Drive the price up as high as it can possibly go.

It'll be sad because I actually like Melo -- he's a star and I think we can win it all with him if we can get some better pieces around him. In a way, we're lucky to have him...If they don't think that's possible though, then yeah, it needs to be a TRADE...My big thing here -- very leery about having Steve Mills in charge of this endeavor. Wish we had someone better qualified to oversee such a big move.

Mills is not the talent advisor on the team. Some cat named Hughes and Mark Warkentien can do that. Mills is the savvy dude who presides over the whole thing. Don't sweat mills lack of being an advisor. This is about CAA, and whom might the team collude to get a package of free agents.

Maybe these two guys?

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2/10/2014  1:12 PM
Nalod wrote:Bulls core of:

Rose, Melo, Noah

KNicks get Stat, Booze and Tyson all off the books at once?

Not bad at all. Throw in another first rounder and show me where to sign.

Kirk is way better than Felton "Fatboy". Sucks to lose Iman, but what has he done for us lately. Plus, he's apparently willing to "play games" that don't involve hooping.

Boozer is a terrific expiring...how much was his deal?

With Stat and Boozer and Tyson all coming off the books at the same time, we can add two max deals to restock our cupboard. And we don't get fleeced by Melo, who good as he is wasn't going to bring us the the Finals makoing $30mil+ per season.\

One week to go, let's get something done, else Melo gwine leave us high and dry.

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2/10/2014  1:12 PM
Nalod wrote:Bulls core of:

Rose, Melo, Noah

KNicks get Stat, Booze and Tyson all off the books at once?

Theyd have to give us both 2014 picks and 2016 + 2nd rounders in 14+15 +16 to make up for what we lost in our trades. I don't like ANY of their players--so it would be a trade flip with another team. If we did this--we'd need to build our own team. Snell and Butler dont do it for me as in flip Butler Boozer and Snell somewhere else for more picks or different young players.
Other possible place is Phoenix they have 3 first rounders this year in a really good draft and I think Melo would be open to resigning there for sure.
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2/10/2014  1:12 PM
I've been pretty indifferent in regards to Melo's future. I am 100% pro-Melo - believe he's a special player, definitely the best we've seen in NY since Ewing, and not easily replaced. That said, I'm not sure I'm ready to hand anyone a $30M/year contract with this CBA. Even LeBron couldn't get it done with table scraps in Cleveland.

Some nice pieces, a couple picks, and no long contracts? I'd be on board. Will definitely be sad to see Melo go, but we're approaching a nice rebuilding point with all of our contracts coming off. Clearly what we have isn't working right now...

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2/10/2014  1:13 PM
Nalod wrote:
Finestrg wrote:If they're gonna go this route and move on without Melo, this is what needs to be done. It needs to be a trade. Absolutely, positively CANNOT let this guy walk for nothing -- I don't care if all we can get is a package that's below what we gave to get him, this is how it needs to be handled. Step 2 -- immediately after hanging up the phone with the Bulls, we call the Lakers and gauge their interest -- gotta get them involved in this too. Seek out other teams as well. Drive the price up as high as it can possibly go.

It'll be sad because I actually like Melo -- he's a star and I think we can win it all with him if we can get some better pieces around him. In a way, we're lucky to have him...If they don't think that's possible though, then yeah, it needs to be a TRADE...My big thing here -- very leery about having Steve Mills in charge of this endeavor. Wish we had someone better qualified to oversee such a big move.

Mills is not the talent advisor on the team. Some cat named Hughes and Mark Warkentien can do that. Mills is the savvy dude who presides over the whole thing. Don't sweat mills lack of being an advisor. This is about CAA, and whom might the team collude to get a package of free agents.

Maybe these two guys?

I'd WAY rather have Uncle Drew and Love on the Knicks than a $30mil dollar mid-30s semi-superstar.

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2/10/2014  1:20 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:I've been pretty indifferent in regards to Melo's future. I am 100% pro-Melo - believe he's a special player, definitely the best we've seen in NY since Ewing, and not easily replaced. That said, I'm not sure I'm ready to hand anyone a $30M/year contract with this CBA. Even LeBron couldn't get it done with table scraps in Cleveland.

Some nice pieces, a couple picks, and no long contracts? I'd be on board. Will definitely be sad to see Melo go, but we're approaching a nice rebuilding point with all of our contracts coming off. Clearly what we have isn't working right now...

I like what we have with Tyler and Hardaway. We could rebuild this team in two years---draft and or acquire all essential pieces to build around free agency in 2015. We'd accept just one bad year--and than we could possibly be real good for the next 6-8. This time we would need to KEEP our additional pieces.

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2/10/2014  1:21 PM
I think Phoenix is a better option - Okafer's ending contract, filler and 3 first round picks - possibly in this draft!

You move Melo out west- I think its a better team and fit for him. I think he'd be happier there. You only have to play him 2x per year and he might be able to get that team to the finals.

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2/10/2014  1:48 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:I've been pretty indifferent in regards to Melo's future. I am 100% pro-Melo - believe he's a special player, definitely the best we've seen in NY since Ewing, and not easily replaced. That said, I'm not sure I'm ready to hand anyone a $30M/year contract with this CBA. Even LeBron couldn't get it done with table scraps in Cleveland.

Some nice pieces, a couple picks, and no long contracts? I'd be on board. Will definitely be sad to see Melo go, but we're approaching a nice rebuilding point with all of our contracts coming off. Clearly what we have isn't working right now...

I like what we have with Tyler and Hardaway. We could rebuild this team in two years---draft and or acquire all essential pieces to build around free agency in 2015. We'd accept just one bad year--and than we could possibly be real good for the next 6-8. This time we would need to KEEP our additional pieces.

You can reabuild in two years, then need 2-3 for it to Jel.

5 years in NYC? Not gonna happen.

And we are not getting back what we traded for.

Maybe Dolan went down to talk to Melo about a trade the other day? Who knows?

Trades only go where Melo resigns.

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2/10/2014  1:49 PM
Yes, of course. De-starphucquing and draft picks while tanking making Denver happier and even more giddy with our pick than they already are.
Melo, playing with people who can actually shoot and an athletic, unflued big man who doesn't major in dribbling off his own feet.


Yes, this will surely happen.

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2/10/2014  2:04 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Nalod wrote:Bulls core of:

Rose, Melo, Noah

KNicks get Stat, Booze and Tyson all off the books at once?

They'd have to give us both 2014 picks and 2016 + 2nd rounders in 14+15 +16 to make up for what we lost in our trades. I don't like ANY of their players--so it would be a trade flip with another team. If we did this--we'd need to build our own team. Snell and Butler dont do it for me as in flip Butler Boozer and Snell somewhere else for more picks or different young players.
Other possible place is Phoenix they have 3 first rounders this year in a really good draft and I think Melo would be open to resigning there for sure.
Len and 3 2014 # 1's a 2015 #1 Alex Len + Ok4.


I'm a little higher on Butler and Boozer, but yeah, the Bulls pieces suck for the most part. We don't really need Snell with THJ, and Heinrich. I'd a need another pick or a way to swap Boozer with Taj Gibson.
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2/10/2014  2:16 PM
I'm done. Build around Tyler&hardaway, we have our 2015 lottery pick plus whatever picks we get for Melo and Tyson. Too good to be true
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2/10/2014  2:27 PM
zero chance he gets dealt. Im sure the MSG bozos would rather romanticize his leaving then take steps to address it
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2/10/2014  3:48 PM
fishmike wrote:zero chance he gets dealt. Im sure the MSG bozos would rather romanticize his leaving then take steps to address it

Seriously have zero idea what drives any of these fools at MSG, from Dolan right on down to any of his henchman...Bottom line -- These bozos wouldn't be doing their jobs if they weren't finding out exactly what they could get for Melo right now, even if they're 99.9% sure they want him back...But for these idiots, who the hell knows.. A good GM would be playing both sides right now -- keeping Melo and re-tooling around him vs. unloading him to the highest bidder and undergoing a full-blown rebuild. Is this what Mills is even thinking right now? Is he engaged one way or the other? I have no idea. Nobody does... Maybe they aren't focused on either matter...For all we know these dopes could be in full denial right now -- I mean that's how they act. Maybe they're just fixated on that 8th spot and generating the extra playoff revenue that would come with the playoff berth. To them, maybe that's enough. To us, the fans, it certainly is not.

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2/10/2014  3:51 PM
This is a great example of a deal that would be worse than letting him walk. Butler is the only one of those four players I'd even want, and he's due for a pay raise in a little over a year.
Dont know how reliable this source is but claiming Bulls-Knicks are in talks for Carmelo

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