NSFW. Use headphones when watching at work.

The funniest part about this is that as bad as this dude talks about Felton, he is light years behind Felton. Felton would run circles around this racist duch bag....

EwingsGlass wrote:Felton needs to take some heat for his performance, but he is ours for a couple more years. Hopefully, he sees this as a wake-up call. In my mind, 'warriors' don't let themselves go and give up on plays. That's what normal dopes like me do -- which is fine if he wants to watch games on the couch like me.

To his defense, he is a bit of PnR PG and has been without good PnR partners for the majority of the season. In my head when we traded for him, he was going to be a 2nd PG behind Lin running a fantastic 2nd unit with Amare. That didn't work. [Disclaimer: I agree with the move not re-signing Lin -- it would have been a lose-lose situation unless Lin became the new Michael Jordan]. This is not making an excuse for his poor defense, but it may explain the lack of focus. But for $4MM per, he should figure it out.

All in all, I am prepared for a re-build. It will be hard to stomach Brooklyn's success if we are in re-build mode while they are in decrepit veteran last chance for a title mode. But, it cannot be worse than the Howard Eisley era. Or the Chris Duhon era. Or the Felton era. We've seen Jason Kidd's Nets outperform us before.

This time, we can do it right. There is never a wrong time to change directions of a team that is headed the wrong way. Its like getting off at the wrong exit on the highway and deciding to keep going rather than turning around. Dumb luck might put you where you intended to go, but most often you are just getting further from your intended destination.

I can't take back the bad moves we've made and the draft picks we have given away. I can focus on the positive value we have gotten from the players we have drafted (even with subpar picks). In my mind, our scouting department is out performing their position, but we keep taking the ball out of their hands. This NBA is as much an economic game as on the court performance and we need to get both sides in tune with each other.

I REALLY don't get that.. why would he have to be the new MJ to jusfity his deal? I think the focus is too much on the one poison pill year, but when you average it out, it still is the same money, roughly 8 mil a year.. It seems no one had a problem paying bargnani 13 mil a year.. just odd if you as me...

EwingsGlass wrote:
This time, we can do it right. There is never a wrong time to change directions of a team that is headed the wrong way. Its like getting off at the wrong exit on the highway and deciding to keep going rather than turning around. Dumb luck might put you where you intended to go, but most often you are just getting further from your intended destination.

I can't take back the bad moves we've made and the draft picks we have given away. I can focus on the positive value we have gotten from the players we have drafted (even with subpar picks). In my mind, our scouting department is out performing their position, but we keep taking the ball out of their hands. This NBA is as much an economic game as on the court performance and we need to get both sides in tune with each other.

I think we've seen enough. If the only reason to keep this group together is to hope for a first round exit, then the direction for this team is lost. If our star player looks to hold us up for a king's ransom, he has to go. We need assets to move forward. It would be nice to start during this off-season, but if necessary we will look to pick up major assets during '15. Let's start to make the small to medium size moves that are available to us now, so that when the big dollars become available in '15, we will be ready.

EwingsGlass wrote:

tkf wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:Felton needs to take some heat for his performance, but he is ours for a couple more years. Hopefully, he sees this as a wake-up call. In my mind, 'warriors' don't let themselves go and give up on plays. That's what normal dopes like me do -- which is fine if he wants to watch games on the couch like me.

To his defense, he is a bit of PnR PG and has been without good PnR partners for the majority of the season. In my head when we traded for him, he was going to be a 2nd PG behind Lin running a fantastic 2nd unit with Amare. That didn't work. [Disclaimer: I agree with the move not re-signing Lin -- it would have been a lose-lose situation unless Lin became the new Michael Jordan]. This is not making an excuse for his poor defense, but it may explain the lack of focus. But for $4MM per, he should figure it out.

All in all, I am prepared for a re-build. It will be hard to stomach Brooklyn's success if we are in re-build mode while they are in decrepit veteran last chance for a title mode. But, it cannot be worse than the Howard Eisley era. Or the Chris Duhon era. Or the Felton era. We've seen Jason Kidd's Nets outperform us before.

This time, we can do it right. There is never a wrong time to change directions of a team that is headed the wrong way. Its like getting off at the wrong exit on the highway and deciding to keep going rather than turning around. Dumb luck might put you where you intended to go, but most often you are just getting further from your intended destination.

I can't take back the bad moves we've made and the draft picks we have given away. I can focus on the positive value we have gotten from the players we have drafted (even with subpar picks). In my mind, our scouting department is out performing their position, but we keep taking the ball out of their hands. This NBA is as much an economic game as on the court performance and we need to get both sides in tune with each other.

I REALLY don't get that.. why would he have to be the new MJ to jusfity his deal? I think the focus is too much on the one poison pill year, but when you average it out, it still is the same money, roughly 8 mil a year.. It seems no one had a problem paying bargnani 13 mil a year.. just odd if you as me...

My intent is not to turn this into a Lin thread. My sole point is that I can recall the multitude of overpaid players in NY and recognize that it is near impossible to justify salary unless they truly outperform their contract. To be clear, Lin got a max contract -- the max he could receive. The poison pill is only relevant in terms of trade. The actual dollars still exist in that final year and count against the hard cap. If Lin performs as a max-contract player, we would have dealt with it. But, anything less would result in his decimation as one of the multitude of overpaid NY Knick athletes. Think Allan Houston.

BTW, why do you assume that no one has a problem paying Bargnani 13MM per?

I think it was the way Lin/his manager played out the contract negotiation. After we matched, they took the contract BACK to Houston to insert the poison pill. I can't think of any other contract that went like that. It gives the impression that you really don't want to be here or that you're holding the team over a barrel.

Bargs was different as he offered a way out of the Camby debacle AND the ineffective Novak. We clamor for a change of scenery to get a player going. The Bargs trade has not been a bust, and I have seen him adjusting to being here. He does have talent and once he is used properly, with good PG play, he will pay off.

NYKBocker wrote:^ Dude. We never matched.

So play it out for me: Lin brought the first offer from Houston. Something had to happen for him to go back to Houston to get that offer re-worked.

blkexec wrote:This has to be the most racist shet I've heard in my life.

The funniest part about this is that as bad as this dude talks about Felton, he is light years behind Felton. Felton would run circles around this racist duch bag....

I don't see how its racist, but yes the guy seems like an angry, unhappy person.

blkexec wrote:This has to be the most racist shet I've heard in my life.

The funniest part about this is that as bad as this dude talks about Felton, he is light years behind Felton. Felton would run circles around this racist duch bag....

Racist how? You don't even know the race of the commentator (there are Black people in Australia). And yeah, I'd imagine Felton could beat this guy one-on-one....he's suppose to be a professional afterall.