Go ahead and make this trade for Kyle Lowry. No 1st round pick, no THJ. Both are off the table. Show discipline and draw the line with those 2 assets...If they're willing to take back something like Shumpert/Udrih/Murry/cash, make the deal. I don't think they'd want that package so this probably goes nowhere....Where are their better offers? I haven't heard anything...If we trade Shumpert and still want an extra 2G for depth -- sign Patrick Christopher or Terrence Williams as a replacement. Williams just had a 50 pt. game in the DL. This guy has been unfairly maligned by so many since being drafted several years back outta Louisville. It's unjust. Thought he was a good player then and I still think he's a good player now. 6'6", strong, very solid/underrated one-on-one player, he can D up, rebound and pass the ball. What else is there? Kyle Lowry + Terrence Williams > than Shumpert & Udrih, that's the bottom line. MUCH BETTER imo. Can't see Toronto making this trade though. They're playing some decent ball, #1 team in the Atlantic (even though that's not saying a whole lot). Is Greivis Vasquez ready to assume the full-time PG duties on + .500 team? Why dump him now?

--THEN--

Sign Kalin Lucas as a backup. This guy can play -- one of the better collegiate PGs in the nation while at Mich. State. Remember him well...Felton, Prigioni and whoever else can sit for the rest of the year for all I care.

CrushAlot wrote:

chewy wrote:Its to close to the playoffs to rely on D-league players. I get out there and get a PG better then Felton but talking bout having Terrance Williams produce better then Shump is nuts.

I think shump might be the next Terrence Williams. That being said, Williams looked like a cant miss pro at times and I believe he was a lottery pick. Also, agree about Pierre Jackson. Heirs putting up huge numbers every night and seems to be ab after thought for the pelicans. The asking price can't be too high there. In regards to the playoffs I think you see what he can do. The Knicks with 15 roster spots certainly have shown they are willing to look at acquiring and developing guys in non traditional ways.

When Felton is the primary PG the offense has absolutely no flow and really never has. All an opponent has to do is take away the guy's slow moving penetrating lob for an alley oop and he's got nothing; no outside shot, no D, etc...

fitzfarm wrote:I can't tell you how many times Felton misses the open man like thjr..and then squeezes a pass into chandler for the turnover.. Or vice versa he has very low court vision for a pg... He might be the worst starting pg in the league.. Not a bad back up for 15to20 minutes a game

OldFan wrote:Outside of THJ SG has been a been a big disappoint also. JR has only just started to play better, Shump has been terrible. Considering how bad the guard play has been and how injury-prone our big-men have been our record is no surprise. I was hoping Shump would have a breakout season and Felton would be better instead they've both been terrible and JR has been at his most erratic. THJ has been a nice surprise but needs a lot of work on defense. Is there a worse backcourt in the NBA?

sealy wrote:

When Felton is the primary PG the offense has absolutely no flow and really never has. All an opponent has to do is take away the guy's slow moving penetrating lob for an alley oop and he's got nothing; no outside shot, no D, etc...

Felton walks the ball upcourt in open space when he should be running and pushing the tempo.

Pulls up his dribble too early which forces other players to pick him up and compensate for the loss of valuable time.

Thinks like a shooting guard by looking for his shot before the assist

Sadly, the game has passed Felton by

misterearl wrote:

sealy wrote:

When Felton is the primary PG the offense has absolutely no flow and really never has. All an opponent has to do is take away the guy's slow moving penetrating lob for an alley oop and he's got nothing; no outside shot, no D, etc...

Felton walks the ball upcourt in open space when he should be running and pushing the tempo.

Pulls up his dribble too early which forces other players to pick him up and compensate for the loss of valuable time.

Thinks like a shooting guard by looking for his shot before the assist

Sadly, the game has passed Felton by

he should not have ever played here even in 2010.

Finestrg wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:Oh my god... If we are looking for a backup center when we already have Tyler amare Martin ... What is wrong with this franchise a back up center is the last thing we need...how stupid can our franchise really be... As die hard fans we need to start chants at msg during the game like get us a point guard not a back up center... Or if anyone on this board is a writer or works for the New York Knicks... Please start a petition to trade Felton for a point guard or just get a point guard ... And really we made a run at Bynum what is wrong with our front office like Bynum would help our team more then Tyler .... Next home game lets start chants "we need a pg" and "Felton sucks" ...if we trade shump for a back up center I'm going to loose it...

I am hoping it is just berman speculating. I am hoping they trade tyson for a package that includes a point.

Read that too and thought the exact same thing. With Amar'e/Martin then Tyler/Aldrich behind them, there are plenty of options for backup C. Totally agree -- it's the last thing we need. The PG spot could use upgrading. My thing all along -- I don't think we need a major trade to accomplish this. 2 sensible moves would be (1) execute a sensible trade with N.O. for Pierre Jackson and (2) sign Kalin Lucas to a contract. The Lowry deal would be a much larger trade with more important assets involved. Why not execute a couple of lesser moves just to see if we can come up with an upgrade going this route? P-Jax and Kalin Lucas are good young PGs with talent. I guess I'm in the minority but I'd rather roll with either one of these guys on the fly the rest of the way over anything we currently have at the position.