That'd be a sweet backcourt, Franchise and Starbury.

I heard the Rockets are trying to swing Francis for Brand, straight up, so they can have a pretty dominant PF/C combo for the next 10 years. Not a bad idea.

this would increase our teams athletiscm and give us a real attacking backcourt that could not be double teamed. If we were able to pull Steve Jackson out of the MLE race, we would be a much more active team and could come off the bench with H2O playing 25 minutes. Maurice taylor is a much more active bigger athletic 4 than KT and 5 years younger. I dont know if we have any real chance to put quality at every position in one year, I dont think its going to happen just because we went through so much trading already. But that would put us at

Marbury 27-28 years old Hardaway Williams
Francis 26-27 years old Houston
Jackson 25-26 years old
Taylor 27-28 years old Sweetney
Nazr 26-27 years old Baker Deke

thats a pretty good package for houston. take deep thought into that. KT is the tough guy who can really shoot that 12 footer and rbeound+ defend. he should eb able to play very well with yao. TT is an upgrade for them at SF so they can move Jim Jackson back to 2 and Cutino Mobley to 1. Van Gundy hates Steve Francis, but steve francis at the 2 playing with marbury makes sense for us. Plus its a nice financial deal for Houston down the line. who knows?

Posted by BRIGGS:

thats a pretty good package for houston. take deep thought into that. KT is the tough guy who can really shoot that 12 footer and rbeound+ defend. he should eb able to play very well with yao. TT is an upgrade for them at SF so they can move Jim Jackson back to 2 and Cutino Mobley to 1. Van Gundy hates Steve Francis, but steve francis at the 2 playing with marbury makes sense for us. Plus its a nice financial deal for Houston down the line. who knows?

I would love for this deal to go down. But I don't think JVG wants KT and believe it or not KT is not a tough guy. To use TT word he is fugazy. And they got a real good thing going with Jim Jackson at the sf position. I would take him over TT who himself is a fugazy. If I'm the Rockets I'm looking for a star in return. Brand or someone of that calibur.

What are you talking about? TT is not a laughingstock throughout the league. What survey did you take? The guy was legitimately hurt, so sue him. He never said Kmart couldn't play, only that his tough guy image was fake, which may or may not be true. How many fights did any of us see with any of these guys? Who knows who is a brawler or pretender. So he looks tough. So do a lot of boxers before they hit their head on the canvas. TT can play and this will be proven out next year with a full year together with Marbury.

we can say a lot of things this a lot of things that, but the bottom line is there is no way we are going to be able to put each piece we need on the team next year. Having Steve Francis and Marbury on the same team would be at a minimum very entertaining and very hard to match up with. If we were bad, we could end up in a position in next year draft to get that big man.

I don't think that trade is a good idea. Word is that Steph and Franchise don't really like each other anyway.

I do, however, think that they should sign Stephen Jackson. Signing Stephen makes sense for so many reasons. He is a perfect insurance policy for either Tim or Allan. He can score from the outside, defend the perimeter, and he seems like the energetic type of athlete that Isiah likes.

But they need to add an athletic four with S Jax. Kurt is old and not athletic enough to keep up with Kmart, the Wallaces, the Oneals, and can't run with Odom. (Speaking of which, how great does Miami look right now?)

I don't think there's a four out there for the MLE. And any thought of Dampier or Sheed for the MLE is RIDICULOUS. We have to stop thinking that there will be another Steph type give away trade, or even a Spree give away. The best way to upgrade the four is through a trade of Kurt and using Frank now while we can.

My list:

1) Stromile (trade KT and Frank)
2) Drew Gooden (Kt and Frank)
3) Tyson Chandler (probably have to take Eddie Robinson or A. Davis to make it work)

Stromile is a defensive pressence and super athlete. He lacks only consistency. Same with Tyson (as long as those back problems are minor). Drew would be a fantastic offensive addition. The only reason his numbers were down was some bizarre adherence to playing Juwan over Drew. Must be the sun.

But the first part of any plan has to involve Stephen Jackson. They aren't that far away, and Stephen gets them a lot closer. Bottom line: they can make do with Kurt, Sweets and Vin at PF, but they NEED a swingman. NEED. Sign Stephen Jackson, then upgrade the Four.

uh....he was good enough to win a championship...

Posted by crzymdups:


2) Drew Gooden (Kt and Frank)

very interesting, no?