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NardDogNation
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1/20/2014  2:30 PM
I was wondering because we think of Tyson being integral to our success. But is he essential like a Chris Bosh on the Heat or more of a Rudy Gay on the Grizzlies type of player (luxury)?
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1/20/2014  2:34 PM
NardDogNation wrote:I was wondering because we think of Tyson being integral to our success. But is he essential like a Chris Bosh on the Heat or more of a Rudy Gay on the Grizzlies type of player (luxury)?

How is Chris Bosh a necessity?
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1/20/2014  2:36 PM
A walking virus

And a disturbance
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1/20/2014  2:40 PM
Both. If we want a team that's at the .400 level, we're perfectly capable of doing that with Bargnani at C. If we want to win the mid 50s, Tyson will have to either return to all-star level or be replaced by someone at that level.
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1/20/2014  2:44 PM
Dagger wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:I was wondering because we think of Tyson being integral to our success. But is he essential like a Chris Bosh on the Heat or more of a Rudy Gay on the Grizzlies type of player (luxury)?

How is Chris Bosh a necessity?

Bosh has quietly been their 2nd best player for a while now, which guys like Doug Collins has pointed out. He is, after all, the only semblance of a post player and the only talent that they have at 7ft. Every other contender has at least one, and in most cases two, talented big men, and the Heat are no exception. Don't buy the hype that Wade and LeBron do everything themselves.
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1/20/2014  2:50 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Both. If we want a team that's at the .400 level, we're perfectly capable of doing that with Bargnani at C. If we want to win the mid 50s, Tyson will have to either return to all-star level or be replaced by someone at that level.

That's what I was thinking. We've had such a dearth of talent that I think that I may have hyped Chandler into something that he is not. He's capable of being a big/final piece on a winning team (e.g. Dallas) but I'm not sure that he can be the reason for the winning (e.g. Charlotte, Chicago, New Orleans)
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1/20/2014  3:32 PM
At this point, none of the above. he's a washed up has-been that can't cut the mustard for you, and maybe he could never cut the mustard because Hibbert is forever > Tyson and Tyson can't improve anymore, it's too late for him to do anything in the league.
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1/20/2014  3:35 PM
Does this trade work? http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kz392ow
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1/20/2014  3:53 PM
Trade works, just don't know why anyone would give us Robin Lopez for this sad sack of clown tears that is Tyson Chandler.

You see Robin's numbers this year? Guy is 11/8 with 1.5 swats

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1/20/2014  5:04 PM
Chandler, at this point of his career, is just an annoyance. He's not a defensive stopper, rebounds occasionally, and is an inefficient scorer. His talents are better served on another team. What do you think we can get for him?
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1/20/2014  5:14 PM
Yeah he's similar to a luxury car that's always at the mechanic and emptying my pocket, so I can't spend it elsewhere.
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1/20/2014  5:16 PM
Sangfroid wrote:Chandler, at this point of his career, is just an annoyance. He's not a defensive stopper, rebounds occasionally, and is an inefficient scorer. His talents are better served on another team. What do you think we can get for him?

inefficient? Say what? Even his biggest critics don't say that
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1/20/2014  5:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/20/2014  5:30 PM
Sangfroid wrote:Chandler, at this point of his career, is just an annoyance. He's not a defensive stopper, rebounds occasionally, and is an inefficient scorer. His talents are better served on another team. What do you think we can get for him?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kz392ow

I could understand Tyson Chandler being an ineffective scorer but he's definitely not inefficient.
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Bonn1997 wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:Chandler, at this point of his career, is just an annoyance. He's not a defensive stopper, rebounds occasionally, and is an inefficient scorer. His talents are better served on another team. What do you think we can get for him?

inefficient? Say what? Even his biggest critics don't say that

For the production that is given by Chandler for the amount of time he lags yes he is inefficient.
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Vmart wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:Chandler, at this point of his career, is just an annoyance. He's not a defensive stopper, rebounds occasionally, and is an inefficient scorer. His talents are better served on another team. What do you think we can get for him?

inefficient? Say what? Even his biggest critics don't say that

For the production that is given by Chandler for the amount of time he lags yes he is inefficient.

He's not inefficient. He's not very good as a scorer but he does convert his shots at a high rate.
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1/20/2014  5:33 PM
He's a energy guy that relies on his athletic ability. He's past his prime with no fundamental skills. I mention dalembert and guys trash him but that dude is playing allot like dalembert these days. I would prefer we had him instead
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1/20/2014  5:33 PM
Vmart wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:Chandler, at this point of his career, is just an annoyance. He's not a defensive stopper, rebounds occasionally, and is an inefficient scorer. His talents are better served on another team. What do you think we can get for him?

inefficient? Say what? Even his biggest critics don't say that

For the production that is given by Chandler for the amount of time he lags yes he is inefficient.


I guess it depends on what you mean by inefficient. Usually it refers to FG% or better stats like TS%.
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Vmart wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:Chandler, at this point of his career, is just an annoyance. He's not a defensive stopper, rebounds occasionally, and is an inefficient scorer. His talents are better served on another team. What do you think we can get for him?

inefficient? Say what? Even his biggest critics don't say that

For the production that is given by Chandler for the amount of time he lags yes he is inefficient.


Agree. Also the guy is not a leader. Wish someone would ask him why the team has played so poorly since he returned.
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1/20/2014  5:51 PM
Probably because it's a bad team
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1/20/2014  6:54 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Sangfroid wrote:Chandler, at this point of his career, is just an annoyance. He's not a defensive stopper, rebounds occasionally, and is an inefficient scorer. His talents are better served on another team. What do you think we can get for him?

inefficient? Say what? Even his biggest critics don't say that

For the production that is given by Chandler for the amount of time he lags yes he is inefficient.


Agree. Also the guy is not a leader. Wish someone would ask him why the team has played so poorly since he returned.

Why he is an immortal NBA champion and former DPOY and sure fire ball of famer. Right there with Russell
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