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holfresh
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1/18/2014  11:20 AM
It's time for this organization to start thinking about rebuilding around Melo..JVG said it last night...They have to entertain trade scenarios around Chandler, Shump, etc...We might have to take a second look at Lowry...
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1/18/2014  11:20 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/18/2014  11:33 AM
rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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1/18/2014  11:35 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/18/2014  11:36 AM
tkf wrote:rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..



A non- realistic plan that included Lin, right??..You may not like it but Melo will be resigned...
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1/18/2014  11:40 AM
It should have went down last month. To much faith is given to this group. What worked before simply isn't. The hole we dug is too deep at this point. Crawling into the plaids cuz the rest of the conference is not good business.

Building around Melo and still holding on to the future is still a real possibility. They need to decide on the coach. If it's woodson they need to get him his players. If they want another coach they have to get the guy they want here now. They need to do things now not 2015

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1/18/2014  11:43 AM
holfresh wrote:It's time for this organization to start thinking about rebuilding around Melo..JVG said it last night...They have to entertain trade scenarios around Chandler, Shump, etc...We might have to take a second look at Lowry...

Havent we rebuilt around Melo already?

Why exactly would first place Toronto sell their starting PG that ship passed

We have little to rebuild around Melo we made a big commitment to Bargnani you know thats that. Jim Dolan said this is a championship team--a guy like that does not admit mistake EVER. He will have the company line as injuries and well be back next year or 7-8th seed this year or whatever. This is a bad team for a dozen years sans 1--get ready for the next decade.

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1/18/2014  11:51 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
holfresh wrote:It's time for this organization to start thinking about rebuilding around Melo..JVG said it last night...They have to entertain trade scenarios around Chandler, Shump, etc...We might have to take a second look at Lowry...

Havent we rebuilt around Melo already?

Why exactly would first place Toronto sell their starting PG that ship passed

We have little to rebuild around Melo we made a big commitment to Bargnani you know thats that. Jim Dolan said this is a championship team--a guy like that does not admit mistake EVER. He will have the company line as injuries and well be back next year or 7-8th seed this year or whatever. This is a bad team for a dozen years sans 1--get ready for the next decade.

Simply put, NO..We need to put the pieces in place and clear the dead weight for day Amare's contract expires...Lowry isn't staying in Toronto unless they pay him a fortune...Toronto will lose him for nothing...We didn't make any commitment to Bargs that goes beyond Amare's deal, so thats no issue...Dolan will resign Melo...We have a couple of years to find pieces that fit around him and the next guy...

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1/18/2014  11:54 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/18/2014  11:58 AM
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..



A non- realistic plan that included Lin, right??..You may not like it but Melo will be resigned...

why are we discussing LIN? listen if you want to come at me this way, I will pull your skirt down, don't let me go back and pull some of your classic homer post.. I would cool down if I were you.. pick your troubles else where bro....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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1/18/2014  11:55 AM
holfresh wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
holfresh wrote:It's time for this organization to start thinking about rebuilding around Melo..JVG said it last night...They have to entertain trade scenarios around Chandler, Shump, etc...We might have to take a second look at Lowry...

Havent we rebuilt around Melo already?

Why exactly would first place Toronto sell their starting PG that ship passed

We have little to rebuild around Melo we made a big commitment to Bargnani you know thats that. Jim Dolan said this is a championship team--a guy like that does not admit mistake EVER. He will have the company line as injuries and well be back next year or 7-8th seed this year or whatever. This is a bad team for a dozen years sans 1--get ready for the next decade.

Simply put, NO..We need to put the pieces in place and clear the dead weight for day Amare's contract expires...Lowry isn't staying in Toronto unless they pay him a fortune...Toronto will lose him for nothing...We didn't make any commitment to Bargs that goes beyond Amare's deal, so thats no issue...Dolan will resign Melo...We have a couple of years to find pieces that fit around him and the next guy...

a losing plan.. one I am sure you will cosign.....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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1/18/2014  12:00 PM
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..



A non- realistic plan that included Lin, right??..You may not like it but Melo will be resigned...

why are we discussing LIN? listen if you want to come at me this way, I will pull your skirt down, don't let me go back and pull some of your classic homer post.. I would cool down if I were you.. pick your troubles else where bro....

U need some growth..

tkf
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1/18/2014  12:01 PM
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..



A non- realistic plan that included Lin, right??..You may not like it but Melo will be resigned...

why are we discussing LIN? listen if you want to come at me this way, I will pull your skirt down, don't let me go back and pull some of your classic homer post.. I would cool down if I were you.. pick your troubles else where bro....

U need some growth..

I have your growth..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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1/18/2014  12:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/18/2014  12:05 PM
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..



A non- realistic plan that included Lin, right??..You may not like it but Melo will be resigned...

why are we discussing LIN? listen if you want to come at me this way, I will pull your skirt down, don't let me go back and pull some of your classic homer post.. I would cool down if I were you.. pick your troubles else where bro....

U need some growth..

I have your growth..


I doubt that very much..U can bury your head in the sand and continue to sulk that your favorite players aren't on the team...Melo will be a Knick for a long time...U can continue to whine like a two year old and post unrealistic scenarios tho, free country...
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1/18/2014  12:05 PM
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..



A non- realistic plan that included Lin, right??..You may not like it but Melo will be resigned...

why are we discussing LIN? listen if you want to come at me this way, I will pull your skirt down, don't let me go back and pull some of your classic homer post.. I would cool down if I were you.. pick your troubles else where bro....

U need some growth..

I have your growth..

tkf, if you don't want to participate in thread, please move on.

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1/18/2014  12:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/18/2014  12:12 PM
holfresh wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
holfresh wrote:It's time for this organization to start thinking about rebuilding around Melo..JVG said it last night...They have to entertain trade scenarios around Chandler, Shump, etc...We might have to take a second look at Lowry...

Havent we rebuilt around Melo already?

Why exactly would first place Toronto sell their starting PG that ship passed

We have little to rebuild around Melo we made a big commitment to Bargnani you know thats that. Jim Dolan said this is a championship team--a guy like that does not admit mistake EVER. He will have the company line as injuries and well be back next year or 7-8th seed this year or whatever. This is a bad team for a dozen years sans 1--get ready for the next decade.

Simply put, NO..We need to put the pieces in place and clear the dead weight for day Amare's contract expires...Lowry isn't staying in Toronto unless they pay him a fortune...Toronto will lose him for nothing...We didn't make any commitment to Bargs that goes beyond Amare's deal, so thats no issue...Dolan will resign Melo...We have a couple of years to find pieces that fit around him and the next guy...

Toronto is in first place and can pay Lowry the going price-they play the game to win right--so why would a first place team trade their starting PG for beans--they are not.. Remember cap space next year is limited throughout the league. It s the following year 25 teams have it. I have to say we did rebuild around Melo--did we not acquire Tyson Chandler and Felton then the next year Bargs? JR Smith? Weve rebuilt around him once--that is fact.

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1/18/2014  12:16 PM
EnySpree wrote:It should have went down last month. To much faith is given to this group. What worked before simply isn't. The hole we dug is too deep at this point. Crawling into the plaids cuz the rest of the conference is not good business.

Building around Melo and still holding on to the future is still a real possibility. They need to decide on the coach. If it's woodson they need to get him his players. If they want another coach they have to get the guy they want here now. They need to do things now not 2015


Agree. Melo isn't an easily replaceable talent. But this team doesn't have it. Time to move on. First two guys to move in my opinion would be Tyson and shump.
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1/18/2014  12:19 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
holfresh wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
holfresh wrote:It's time for this organization to start thinking about rebuilding around Melo..JVG said it last night...They have to entertain trade scenarios around Chandler, Shump, etc...We might have to take a second look at Lowry...

Havent we rebuilt around Melo already?

Why exactly would first place Toronto sell their starting PG that ship passed

We have little to rebuild around Melo we made a big commitment to Bargnani you know thats that. Jim Dolan said this is a championship team--a guy like that does not admit mistake EVER. He will have the company line as injuries and well be back next year or 7-8th seed this year or whatever. This is a bad team for a dozen years sans 1--get ready for the next decade.

Simply put, NO..We need to put the pieces in place and clear the dead weight for day Amare's contract expires...Lowry isn't staying in Toronto unless they pay him a fortune...Toronto will lose him for nothing...We didn't make any commitment to Bargs that goes beyond Amare's deal, so thats no issue...Dolan will resign Melo...We have a couple of years to find pieces that fit around him and the next guy...

Toronto is in first place and can pay Lowry the going price-they play the game to win right--so why would a first place team trade their starting PG for beans--they are not.. Remember cap space next year is limited throughout the league. It s the following year 25 teams have it. I have to say we did rebuild around Melo--did we not acquire Tyson Chandler and Felton then the next year Bargs? JR Smith? Weve rebuilt around him once--that is fact.

U can't say we rebuilt with Amare size contract on the cap ...Melo became the main piece because Amare couldn't go...First place Toronto was trying to trade him before...Toronto is not a destination for anyone except Landry Fields type..How many players have bolted Toronto the first chance they get..But doesn't have to be Lowry, but we do have to rebuild and Melo will be here..

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1/18/2014  12:33 PM
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..



A non- realistic plan that included Lin, right??..You may not like it but Melo will be resigned...

why are we discussing LIN? listen if you want to come at me this way, I will pull your skirt down, don't let me go back and pull some of your classic homer post.. I would cool down if I were you.. pick your troubles else where bro....

U need some growth..

I have your growth..


I doubt that very much..U can bury your head in the sand and continue to sulk that your favorite players aren't on the team...Melo will be a Knick for a long time...U can continue to whine like a two year old and post unrealistic scenarios tho, free country...

and the knicks will never win... so I don't want to hear any complaints from you.... you are team melo for life.. rofl..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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1/18/2014  12:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/18/2014  12:36 PM
martin wrote:
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..



A non- realistic plan that included Lin, right??..You may not like it but Melo will be resigned...

why are we discussing LIN? listen if you want to come at me this way, I will pull your skirt down, don't let me go back and pull some of your classic homer post.. I would cool down if I were you.. pick your troubles else where bro....

U need some growth..

I have your growth..

tkf, if you don't want to participate in thread, please move on.

wait so you mod me, after I was actually contributing to this thread. I actually made an offer to discuss something that everyone could participate in.. outside of the same old. keep carmelo..

holfresh is the one who came at me, and it had nothing to do with this thread.. why isn't he being modded?

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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1/18/2014  12:35 PM
EnySpree wrote:It should have went down last month. To much faith is given to this group. What worked before simply isn't. The hole we dug is too deep at this point. Crawling into the plaids cuz the rest of the conference is not good business.

Building around Melo and still holding on to the future is still a real possibility. They need to decide on the coach. If it's woodson they need to get him his players. If they want another coach they have to get the guy they want here now. They need to do things now not 2015


That's been a problem with the Knicks. They haven't worked with their coaches much. I don't like D'antoni but if you get him certain guys he can do well. Same with Woodson. If you get him his vets he can do well. It's a little harder with Woodson though because as we've seen those vets do break down.
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1/18/2014  12:38 PM
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..



A non- realistic plan that included Lin, right??..You may not like it but Melo will be resigned...

why are we discussing LIN? listen if you want to come at me this way, I will pull your skirt down, don't let me go back and pull some of your classic homer post.. I would cool down if I were you.. pick your troubles else where bro....

U need some growth..

I have your growth..


I doubt that very much..U can bury your head in the sand and continue to sulk that your favorite players aren't on the team...Melo will be a Knick for a long time...U can continue to whine like a two year old and post unrealistic scenarios tho, free country...

and the knicks will never win... so I don't want to hear any complaints from you.... you are team melo for life.. rofl..

U remind me of JR Smith..Ur favorite/s are on not on the team so u whine and moan and be disruptive when the opportunity presents itself..

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1/18/2014  12:47 PM
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:
holfresh wrote:
tkf wrote:rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..



A non- realistic plan that included Lin, right??..You may not like it but Melo will be resigned...

why are we discussing LIN? listen if you want to come at me this way, I will pull your skirt down, don't let me go back and pull some of your classic homer post.. I would cool down if I were you.. pick your troubles else where bro....

U need some growth..

I have your growth..


I doubt that very much..U can bury your head in the sand and continue to sulk that your favorite players aren't on the team...Melo will be a Knick for a long time...U can continue to whine like a two year old and post unrealistic scenarios tho, free country...

and the knicks will never win... so I don't want to hear any complaints from you.... you are team melo for life.. rofl..



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