As a whole and a team,
I don't think Tyson Chandler works well with AB and Melo
It is useless to have to 7 footers out there together if we don't even rebounder better, block shots, and importantly DEFEND together
It just doesn't work and it has shown the whole time since the start of the season

NYY1NYK2 wrote:Jeremy tyler can play. Woodson is letting him rot on the bench
He proved it in the summer league and he proved it in the D-League
I think woodson is a certified A-hole, playing kenyon and amare continuously on a back to back. The team clearly looked winded. We had fresh legs and didnt use them.
Whatever he gripe with JR, it needs to be put aside. He was benched against miami, he came back and played a great game the following night, and you bench him after a back to back.

we don't need jr....hardaway is fresh and so is murry. Sticking beno out there for minimal minutes is ridiculous too.

woodson has no grip on the future of this team. No clue what the plan should be

NYY1NYK2 - no successful head coach takes the job to make you happy. Certified A-hole? It is always interesting that people who are quick to insult others only reveal who they are.

Certified A-hole?

Really? Because a person does not conform to your opinion? Interesting.

Just for the record, Mike Woodson does not have some "gripe" with JRSmith that is arbitrary. His job is to get he best from his roster. The head coach controls the minutes as reward for players who have earned them, for whatever usage he sees as appropriate.

You write as if JRSmith is some type of victim. Really?

NYY1NYK2 wrote:

misterearl wrote:I think woodson is a certified A-hole

NYY1NYK2 - no successful head coach takes the job to make you happy. Certified A-hole? It is always interesting that people who are quick to insult others only reveal who they are.

Certified A-hole?

Really? Because a person does not conform to your opinion? Interesting.

Just for the record, Mike Woodson does not have some "gripe" with JRSmith that is arbitrary. His job is to get he best from his roster. The head coach controls the minutes as reward for players who have earned them, for whatever usage he sees as appropriate.

You write as if JRSmith is some type of victim. Really?

Tyler was putting up great numbers in the d-league, he can rebound and score as he showed at the end of the game.

Certified A-hole because kmart is playing major minutes, and he's old, unnecessarily putting his health at risk. You have tyler on the bench collecting DNP's or getting 1 maybe 2 min.
Instead you play a struggling chandler.

You leave felton in THE ENTIRE 1st quarter after playing 40 plus mins the night before (the guy just came back from a hamstring injury)
Melo is avg the MOST MINS IN THE LEAGUE!!!
And you have "fresh legs" on the bench

We lost the game because woodson is a mediocre coach who is stubborn and does not adapt.
We had him on a pedestal because he took over for an even more mediocre coach.

but since you are used to mediocre, this is ok for you.

Chalk this up as a game that we lost, BECAUSE OF WOODSON

I agree, woodson is mediocre and stubborn... but that is not why we lost the game... guys like murry and tyler are not better than felton and k-mart, even on old legs.. these guys are really not that good and have not proven to the knicks or any other team that they belong on the floor for extended periods.. woodson is trying to save his job.. we were built to win now.. and we aren't... if you play tyler, he has to guard Al jefferson and AJ would have put up 45 instead of 35.. put murry on kemba? really? and when has murry become a defensive stopper? the cats are a bad matchup for the knicks, any team that has a pretty decent back court will scorch us... that is really not on woodson.

Chalk this up as a game that we lost, BECAUSE OF WOODSON

if you do that, you are ignoring the fact that this team just isn't that good.... the problem is more so lack of balance and chemistry and talent than bad coaching.. which believe me, we do need a coaching upgrade as well..

Agreed that Murry cannot run a team like Prigs, but he is without a doubt a serviceable player and would have definitely played Kemba better because Felton is just that bad on D.

It doesn't matter who is in because everyone just f'in switches non stop. It's beyond pathetic to watch Bargs/KMart get switched onto Kemba time and time again.

EnySpree wrote:

tkf wrote:

EnySpree wrote:We can't win burning out our veterans because the coach can't coach

and you won't win playing tyler and murry extended minutes in their place.. the knicks are not building towards the future... they are trying win now, and this is what you get..

Nothing wrong with playing the vet but forcing then to play 40 minutes a night? Gotta give these kids 20 min at least. Put the vet in when you need them. I think murry and thjr can hold down 20 mins easy. They proved they can contribute.

Hardaway JR looked great last night, of course like any rookie after hitting a couple of shots he got trigger happy, but thats when woodson is suppose to COACH him and tell him pump the brakes young blood.

And besides going for rebounds, please tell me how shumperts 26ft 3 pt attempts were any different than JR's?

Tyler looked good in the 5 mins he was in.

NYY1NYK2 wrote:Murry is not a point guard. Has the same issues as shumpert. Great defender but not a floor leader.
Shows hesitation on passes, and has a pass OR score mentality, cannot change gears during a play.

he needs reps. he is hesitant like he's afraid to make a mistake, but then he makes a great play. playing him 9 minutes is no good in my opinion. I like his ability to get in the open floor and finish. He can shoot and finish off the drive. I disagree about the court vision though. I think he sees the floor just fine...he is a rookie though. He brings it on the defensive end and he is a full court player so I think that warrants him playing time over Priggy and Beno.

playa2 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:We have a keeper. That's going to be Kmarts perminant replacement in the starting 5 very soon. You can almost count on kmart getting hurt soon. Jeremy should get that shot. Same shot that woodson neglects to give murry. As sin as priggy is back Murry will be on the bench

Murray has been playing worse lately, he makes a good pass or two , but he's playing like he was still in the D.League finishing at the basket.

he's not horrible though. I still see flashes in the kid. I feel he makes the same amount of mistakes as any other point guard on the roster yet he is the rookie so he looked at more harshly....how many times does the opposing point guard have to have a career night before Felton gets benched? Priggy is wanted back so he can play with Felton at the same time cuz he sucks....Priggy is more annoying on defense but he gets horribly beat off the dribble. He also won't eve look at the basket. I think Murry plays better defense and scores and passes enough to be on their level when you balance everything out.