Nalod wrote:I don't think too many "stars" are lining up to play with Melo.
I'd say trading him or letting him walk would be more attractive.

The "Pristige" is not real. It exists because fans think it does. Media is a nasty mess to play in and the owner is an idiot.

Seems the "mecca" is not all its cracked up to be.

Yeah, I thought the "prestige" was bull**** until all these stars were rumored to sign with us after 2010 (and none did). Now I'm back to my pessimistic Knick-self, lol. If I were an athlete worth a damn, I'd never want to play in NY because it's only a matter of time before they become public enemy number 1 (see Patrick Ewing, Allan Houston, Marcus Camby, Stephon Marbury, Amar'e Stoudemire and now Melo). It's a major reason why I think the draft is the best way to get any real talent that isn't overpaid here.

NardDogNation wrote:

Nalod wrote:I don't think too many "stars" are lining up to play with Melo.
I'd say trading him or letting him walk would be more attractive.

The "Pristige" is not real. It exists because fans think it does. Media is a nasty mess to play in and the owner is an idiot.

Seems the "mecca" is not all its cracked up to be.

Yeah, I thought the "prestige" was bull**** until all these stars were rumored to sign with us after 2010 (and none did). Now I'm back to my pessimistic Knick-self, lol. If I were an athlete worth a damn, I'd never want to play in NY because it's only a matter of time before they become public enemy number 1 (see Patrick Ewing, Allan Houston, Marcus Camby, Stephon Marbury, Amar'e Stoudemire and now Melo). It's a major reason why I think the draft is the best way to get any real talent that isn't overpaid here.

Ewing had some rough times but he's still celebrated like a hero every time he returns to the garden. Not so bad.

Bonn1997 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:What becomes of our ability to attract top flight stars if the Carmelo Anthony experiment fails? Does this cement our reputation as a incompetent franchise to stars that would have been interested in playing for New York city? Does trading Melo improve or diminish this "prestige"? It's an interesting thought, IMO, because politics and business go hand in hand, so stuff like this does matter.

I think that reputation has been cemented pretty firmly by now. We've only won 1 playoff series this century!

The sad truth, but the clippers have arguably the most pathetic history in the NBA and a horrible owner, and they are somewhat respected around the league at the moment, so maybe there is some hope.

Dagger wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Nalod wrote:I don't think too many "stars" are lining up to play with Melo.
I'd say trading him or letting him walk would be more attractive.

The "Pristige" is not real. It exists because fans think it does. Media is a nasty mess to play in and the owner is an idiot.

Seems the "mecca" is not all its cracked up to be.

Yeah, I thought the "prestige" was bull**** until all these stars were rumored to sign with us after 2010 (and none did). Now I'm back to my pessimistic Knick-self, lol. If I were an athlete worth a damn, I'd never want to play in NY because it's only a matter of time before they become public enemy number 1 (see Patrick Ewing, Allan Houston, Marcus Camby, Stephon Marbury, Amar'e Stoudemire and now Melo). It's a major reason why I think the draft is the best way to get any real talent that isn't overpaid here.

Ewing had some rough times but he's still celebrated like a hero every time he returns to the garden. Not so bad.

Yeah, now when it's convenient. He got booed mercilessly his last few years as a player here, which was unforgivable considering what he did for this franchise. That precedent doesn't bode well for other new-comers.

H1AND1 wrote:Remember when we signed Amare he said something like he signed here to bring the Knicks back to respectability (I can't remember exactly what he said). But yeah, status as a dysfunctional laughingstock is pretty well cemented in just about everyone's minds at this point.

Or how about when we lost to the Heat in the 1st round a couple years back and they were laughing and making sarcastic comments about some prediction that the Knicks may surprise in the series.

Let's face it were a complete joke and the only reason most players will come here is money. And that's a good thing at least because it's the one thing we actually have going for us, I guess.

+1

knicks1248 wrote:what stars did ewing attract?

Houston and Childs? Not stars but fairly decent FA nabs at the time.

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:what stars did ewing attract?

Houston and Childs? Not stars but fairly decent FA nabs at the time.

Bingo and the Childs we signed was much better than the one that played for us (courtesy of Van Gundy handicapping his freedom with the ball).

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:what stars did ewing attract?

Houston and Childs? Not stars but fairly decent FA nabs at the time.

LJ too