Does anyone thing there are analysts like Frank Isola (who some talk with that arrogance and hate here), current Knick's players, or ex players, management, CAA, Coaching staff, scouting staff, Dolan himself, past GM's, etc.... people within Knick's organization lurk inside this site or at least just read our posts here

I myself, think there are, especially the CAA buddies, along with Frank Isola, and other Anaylst because I notice many writers/analyst/columnist often use our post's, arguements, opinions, to start an article that they get PAID FOR while we do it here for free for them

1) I wonder if anyone inside the Knick's organization actually reads on UltimateKnicks.com

and

2) if CAA are some of the supporters/posters here that seem to always defend Carmelo Anthony, block out his deficiencies, point out his past accomplishments that have NOTHING to do with his NBA career, always reminding us his personal achievements and past TEAM achievements but ignoring the lack of success he has had in the post season, and how we got lucky with the trade with Denver by trading half our roster for a selfish prima donna with a MEMEMEME attitude but points the blame on his team and throws others under the bus to defend his own ass

"[Sometimes], they're just looking for me to make something happen," he said. "We've got to get away from that. We've got to get better at that. We will."

"I believe in [my teammates] just as much as they believe in me. They've got to know that," Anthony said earlier this week. "They've got to believe that and they've got to play ball coming down the stretch, too."

"We all have to step up to those challenges. It's not every night I'm going to bail us out. We should know that," he said.

these same posters are the same constant ones that claim Melo brought us to the playoffs when his record was actually just on par with what Wilson Chandler/Gallo/MoSgoV/Felton and all the assets/unprotected picks we used to get slaughtered in the play offs, year after year, but we did win 54 wins last season to get slaughtered by Pacers as well as a SUCCESS/POSITIVE

these same posters, harass Jeremy Lin, even though the Knick's NEVER actually offered him a contract to stay and ignore the fact that we would likely have been a LOTTERY TEAM without his contributions to the team, despite creating a fan base, a spectacular run in which we played as a TEAM on both ends and it was the MOST EXCITING run with CHEMISTRY

It seems these posters are more PRO ANTHONY fans than PRO KNICK's fan's in my opinion, often finding a scapegoat to blame, and accepting Anthony for hoisting up 30 shots to get 30 points while it costs us BALL MOVEMENT/CHEMISTRY/ and his inabilities as a "leader", "franchise player", or even a "All Star", or "MAX PLAYER"

So, he is not a facilitator, a lock down defender, a leader, and is SELFISH both on and off the court, and often wants to play HERO BALL but now is complaining that he CANNOT look "always" bail us out that way and pointing the finger at the lack of talent
But because of the NUMBERS/STAT's he chases, they use it to justify his value in the league while the ball is in his hands 90% of the damn time, when he doesn't even have the physical abilities of an ELITE or EFFICIENT player, even crediting "HOCKEY ASSIST" to Melo when EVERY OTHER TEAM IN THE NBA calls its BALL MOVEMENT and playing as team but somehow Melo must get credit for it...

ALL WHILE his entire NBA career and career as a Knick, that coaches (George Karl and Dantoni), players (Amare, Chandler, Iman, Lin, etc) kept telling him to concentrate on other area's other than scoring, and focus on more ball movement, as he has the talent and ability to get his when he wants but needs to improve the play of his role player consistently, and getting other players involved but instead he insist the offense must be run to him for him to be successful, when Lin fell in our hands and we let him walk for NOTHING

Well, why do we not have enough talent/assets to build around him?
because WE OVERPAYED FOR HIM WHEN WE WERE SUPPOSE TO HAVE LEVERAGE OVER DENVER had CA said "I WILL NOT SIGN AN EXTENSION WITH ANY TEAM BUT NYK's that Donnie Walsh was setting him up to say during negations in the trade with him till Dolan had to step in and override DW and Dantoni's decisions/opinions
All the moves we made after trading for Anthony we had no leverage in because we had minimal assets but were built to WIN NOW, making poor trades year after year, to try to find role players that we traded for him that we "so easy to replace" that we NEVER DID......

or

3) if Isiah/Ex Knick's management, players, business associates, or Dolan himself, lurks within this site
just to get a different POV and to get a reaction before certain moves they make
This is definitely one of the best basketball forums as most of us here are serious fans but many of us have different POV's, opinions, expectations, and ideas on how to BUILD A TEAM, with which players to target

At least for the most part, most people here understand much more than the average fan in regards to the salary cap, value of assets, and the effects of the new CBA to each team....

We are a complete disgrace and we have mortgaged our future as we could likely lose Anthony for NOTHING while we continue to pay for the trade for him, and the horrible trades after him and his CAA buddies,

I am sick of his excuses and "playing DUMB", poor shot selection, not playing hard for coaches, making "ridiculous" comments one after another, and inability to use his energy and concentrate on other area's like FIGHTING FOR POSITION/BOXING OUT/PLAYING DEFENSE, to give his team mates confidence in shooting and getting to the open spot for the shot on consistent basis, like Paul George has learned and done, which has separated him from Melo has he already has surpassed Melo's abilities and talents with his WORTH ETHIC, IQ, UNSELFISHNESS, WILLINGNESS TO SACRIFICE FOR THE BETTER OF THE TEAM, his ability to improve EVERY YEAR, and DOING WHATEVER IS NEEDED, but DELIVERING with CLUTCH scoring in CRITICAL situations both in regular season games and in the post season

Truth is, he is our most talented player on the team but he is unwilling to sacrifice for the better of the team
Originally I would have still given him an opportunity to redeem himself by having him recruit other talents/ ALL STAR's *BUT ONLY WAY that is going to happen is IF he is willing to take less in ONE YEAR, he can be paid and "TAKEN CARE of" in the the following years like the Smith Brothers have....

And if he is only staying at a 20m+ salary, we simply won't be able to ever build a contending team better than the Pacers, HEAT, Rockets, OKC, Clippers, Portland, and upcoming teams like Detroit, Cleveland, Warriors, Pelicans, Wizards, Timberwolves, Mavericks, Philly, (EVEN Kings), (in the near future) because he STAT's are very misleading because EVERYTHING is run through him so he can generate more STATs but more L's to justify his value and contract in the league

We need major CHANGES, starting with management, GM, President of Operations, COACHING, COACHING STAFF, DEVELOPMENT COACHES/PLANs
Along with collecting assets and keeping salary cap to target and attract the FA's of 2015 and 2016 along the way

With Lin and Asik both looking like NO ONE wants to take their salary, maybe we can get them along with many of Houston's draft picks....
Take Lin and Asik back while sending Melo to Houston, with much future picks to begin the process, then slowly look to recycle and find steals much like Houston did to rebuild to where they are today, when Tmac/Yao Ming went down for them...
We won't have the draft picks that Presti had in OKC, but we can follow a similar structure in The Rockets and Pacer's on how to build a team, and DEVELOPMENT PLAYERS and their importance, (players like Lance Stephenson, Roy Hibbert, were not high draft picks, while Paul George was, and we do own our 2015 draft pick that we could likely TANK and naturally SUCK while still building an identity on how to play TEAM basketball

Finding the next James Harden in FA and D12 with CAP SPACE, developing the next Chandler Parsons, and Patrick Beverely, while COLLECTING ASSETS as our #1 goal with managment working TOGETHER and placing value on draft picks, development players/coaches, and signing short term deals to players that we could resend back in the future on lower salaries than their potential

Drafting and developing the next Roy Hibbert/Lance Stephnson, and drafting the next Paul George if we get lucky in 2015, along with signing the efficient leader in David West....

Many make fun of Rudy Gay here but I think he is much more comparable to Melo than some here put him with Durant with, it is just that our coach gives him the freedom and enables all his poor shot selections, poor decision making, bad habits, and it gives him the opportunity to CHASE STAT's and not W's.....

I personally would much rather have Rudy Gay at a lower salary, say 8m but he would be one of our top dogs in 2015 in a short term team, similar to what Bynum is doing for Cleveland
Having 2 players like Bynum/Rudy Gay that we would have TEAM OPTIONS on if we cannot target the

Kevin Love's
Aldridge
Roy Hibbert

along with a good pairing of 2 solid PG's with SOLID role players at the RIGHT PRICE without overpaying for talent

We need management with BALLS and skills (so Dolan can trust and stay away from to let them do their job), that are willing to put grown men in their place, reminding them that NO ONE is bigger than the game itself, having that respect/leadership/accountability, experience/track record and winning our ultimate goal and not personal achievements, sacrifices are needed along with talents, and running a balanced system/philosophy for the BETTER of the team, while utilizing our team strengths to its full potential like Poppavich has done in changing/adapting his system to old school twin towers system to Dantoni's philosophies when they added Parker/Ginobili/Duncan and ROLE PLAYERS to fill in, all without overpaying for talents....

RonRon wrote:Real Question, no joke no joke, no kid no kid..
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Does anyone thing there are analysts like Frank Isola (who some talk with that arrogance and hate here), current Knick's players, or ex players, management, CAA, Coaching staff, scouting staff, Dolan himself, past GM's, etc.... people within Knick's organization lurk inside this site or at least just read our posts here

I myself, think there are, especially the CAA buddies, along with Frank Isola, and other Anaylst because I notice many writers/analyst/columnist often use our post's, arguements, opinions, to start an article that they get PAID FOR while we do it here for free for them

1) I wonder if anyone inside the Knick's organization actually reads on UltimateKnicks.com

and

2) if CAA are some of the supporters/posters here that seem to always defend Carmelo Anthony, block out his deficiencies, point out his past accomplishments that have NOTHING to do with his NBA career, always reminding us his personal achievements and past TEAM achievements but ignoring the lack of success he has had in the post season, and how we got lucky with the trade with Denver by trading half our roster for a selfish prima donna with a MEMEMEME attitude but points the blame on his team and throws others under the bus to defend his own ass

"[Sometimes], they're just looking for me to make something happen," he said. "We've got to get away from that. We've got to get better at that. We will."

"I believe in [my teammates] just as much as they believe in me. They've got to know that," Anthony said earlier this week. "They've got to believe that and they've got to play ball coming down the stretch, too."

"We all have to step up to those challenges. It's not every night I'm going to bail us out. We should know that," he said.

these same posters are the same constant ones that claim Melo brought us to the playoffs when his record was actually just on par with what Wilson Chandler/Gallo/MoSgoV/Felton and all the assets/unprotected picks we used to get slaughtered in the play offs, year after year, but we did win 54 wins last season to get slaughtered by Pacers as well as a SUCCESS/POSITIVE

these same posters, harass Jeremy Lin, even though the Knick's NEVER actually offered him a contract to stay and ignore the fact that we would likely have been a LOTTERY TEAM without his contributions to the team, despite creating a fan base, a spectacular run in which we played as a TEAM on both ends and it was the MOST EXCITING run with CHEMISTRY

It seems these posters are more PRO ANTHONY fans than PRO KNICK's fan's in my opinion, often finding a scapegoat to blame, and accepting Anthony for hoisting up 30 shots to get 30 points while it costs us BALL MOVEMENT/CHEMISTRY/ and his inabilities as a "leader", "franchise player", or even a "All Star", or "MAX PLAYER"

So, he is not a facilitator, a lock down defender, a leader, and is SELFISH both on and off the court, and often wants to play HERO BALL but now is complaining that he CANNOT look "always" bail us out that way and pointing the finger at the lack of talent
But because of the NUMBERS/STAT's he chases, they use it to justify his value in the league while the ball is in his hands 90% of the damn time, when he doesn't even have the physical abilities of an ELITE or EFFICIENT player, even crediting "HOCKEY ASSIST" to Melo when EVERY OTHER TEAM IN THE NBA calls its BALL MOVEMENT and playing as team but somehow Melo must get credit for it...

ALL WHILE his entire NBA career and career as a Knick, that coaches (George Karl and Dantoni), players (Amare, Chandler, Iman, Lin, etc) kept telling him to concentrate on other area's other than scoring, and focus on more ball movement, as he has the talent and ability to get his when he wants but needs to improve the play of his role player consistently, and getting other players involved but instead he insist the offense must be run to him for him to be successful, when Lin fell in our hands and we let him walk for NOTHING

Well, why do we not have enough talent/assets to build around him?
because WE OVERPAYED FOR HIM WHEN WE WERE SUPPOSE TO HAVE LEVERAGE OVER DENVER had CA said "I WILL NOT SIGN AN EXTENSION WITH ANY TEAM BUT NYK's that Donnie Walsh was setting him up to say during negations in the trade with him till Dolan had to step in and override DW and Dantoni's decisions/opinions
All the moves we made after trading for Anthony we had no leverage in because we had minimal assets but were built to WIN NOW, making poor trades year after year, to try to find role players that we traded for him that we "so easy to replace" that we NEVER DID......

or

3) if Isiah/Ex Knick's management, players, business associates, or Dolan himself, lurks within this site
just to get a different POV and to get a reaction before certain moves they make
This is definitely one of the best basketball forums as most of us here are serious fans but many of us have different POV's, opinions, expectations, and ideas on how to BUILD A TEAM, with which players to target

At least for the most part, most people here understand much more than the average fan in regards to the salary cap, value of assets, and the effects of the new CBA to each team....

We are a complete disgrace and we have mortgaged our future as we could likely lose Anthony for NOTHING while we continue to pay for the trade for him, and the horrible trades after him and his CAA buddies,

I am sick of his excuses and "playing DUMB", poor shot selection, not playing hard for coaches, making "ridiculous" comments one after another, and inability to use his energy and concentrate on other area's like FIGHTING FOR POSITION/BOXING OUT/PLAYING DEFENSE, to give his team mates confidence in shooting and getting to the open spot for the shot on consistent basis, like Paul George has learned and done, which has separated him from Melo has he already has surpassed Melo's abilities and talents with his WORTH ETHIC, IQ, UNSELFISHNESS, WILLINGNESS TO SACRIFICE FOR THE BETTER OF THE TEAM, his ability to improve EVERY YEAR, and DOING WHATEVER IS NEEDED, but DELIVERING with CLUTCH scoring in CRITICAL situations both in regular season games and in the post season

Truth is, he is our most talented player on the team but he is unwilling to sacrifice for the better of the team
Originally I would have still given him an opportunity to redeem himself by having him recruit other talents/ ALL STAR's *BUT ONLY WAY that is going to happen is IF he is willing to take less in ONE YEAR, he can be paid and "TAKEN CARE of" in the the following years like the Smith Brothers have....

And if he is only staying at a 20m+ salary, we simply won't be able to ever build a contending team better than the Pacers, HEAT, Rockets, OKC, Clippers, Portland, and upcoming teams like Detroit, Cleveland, Warriors, Pelicans, Wizards, Timberwolves, Mavericks, Philly, (EVEN Kings), (in the near future) because he STAT's are very misleading because EVERYTHING is run through him so he can generate more STATs but more L's to justify his value and contract in the league

We need major CHANGES, starting with management, GM, President of Operations, COACHING, COACHING STAFF, DEVELOPMENT COACHES/PLANs
Along with collecting assets and keeping salary cap to target and attract the FA's of 2015 and 2016 along the way

With Lin and Asik both looking like NO ONE wants to take their salary, maybe we can get them along with many of Houston's draft picks....
Take Lin and Asik back while sending Melo to Houston, with much future picks to begin the process, then slowly look to recycle and find steals much like Houston did to rebuild to where they are today, when Tmac/Yao Ming went down for them...
We won't have the draft picks that Presti had in OKC, but we can follow a similar structure in The Rockets and Pacer's on how to build a team, and DEVELOPMENT PLAYERS and their importance, (players like Lance Stephenson, Roy Hibbert, were not high draft picks, while Paul George was, and we do own our 2015 draft pick that we could likely TANK and naturally SUCK while still building an identity on how to play TEAM basketball

Finding the next James Harden in FA and D12 with CAP SPACE, developing the next Chandler Parsons, and Patrick Beverely, while COLLECTING ASSETS as our #1 goal with managment working TOGETHER and placing value on draft picks, development players/coaches, and signing short term deals to players that we could resend back in the future on lower salaries than their potential

Drafting and developing the next Roy Hibbert/Lance Stephnson, and drafting the next Paul George if we get lucky in 2015, along with signing the efficient leader in David West....

Many make fun of Rudy Gay here but I think he is much more comparable to Melo than some here put him with Durant with, it is just that our coach gives him the freedom and enables all his poor shot selections, poor decision making, bad habits, and it gives him the opportunity to CHASE STAT's and not W's.....

I personally would much rather have Rudy Gay at a lower salary, say 8m but he would be one of our top dogs in 2015 in a short term team, similar to what Bynum is doing for Cleveland
Having 2 players like Bynum/Rudy Gay that we would have TEAM OPTIONS on if we cannot target the

Kevin Love's
Aldridge
Roy Hibbert

along with a good pairing of 2 solid PG's with SOLID role players at the RIGHT PRICE without overpaying for talent

t seems these posters are more PRO ANTHONY fans than PRO KNICK's fan's in my opinion, often finding a scapegoat to blame, and accepting Anthony for hoisting up 30 shots to get 30 points while it costs us BALL MOVEMENT/CHEMISTRY/ and his inabilities as a "leader", "franchise player", or even a "All Star", or "MAX PLAYER"

I think that is the big thing.. most of these fans are more PRO Carmelo than PRO knicks.. they want the knicks to do well only with carmelo "leading the way" or as they put it "dragging his team to the playoffs".. LOL.... they will scoff at things like linsanity, or draft picks, or the young players we had, doesn't matter if they helped us win or not, doesn't matter if linsanity saved the knicks season that year.. if it is not led by carmelo, then they are not happy.... they call it unsustainable.... rofl.

With constant comments like

NCAA title
Scoring Title
Playoffs every year since he joined
54wins and Atlantic Division, only to be slaughtered by the Pacer's not even making it a series like it was during the Miller vs Ewing rivalry....

None of these things means ANYTHING in the end, because it is about the post season, and well, Melo has been able to advance and do well in it, playing it HIS WAY as he desires with Iso's and poor shot selection...

I mean Melo gets credit for getting us in play offs when we acquired him, when we were doing just fine without him, and were on pace to do even better at a point....

But on the other hand, with Lin, without his run we would have been a lotto team without our pick, carries us to play offs with his run, and shows Melo how to LEAD and be an efficient players but he gets banished and crapped on for one of the greatest runs we have ever seen in NYK, with all the energy he brought with him, making away games feel like home games, and it was just multiplied in confidence and chemistry, but gets constantly crapped on when he was NEVER offered a deal and Melo/JR threw him under the bus....

Yes Melo complains that he has no talent around him and they cannot always "look for him to bail them out"
LOL

Are these posters really that blind, dumb, or/and biast, racist, or haters, look at all the money we have spend on Kidd, Novak, Camby, AB, Felton, and the picks as well, so money was not the issue, and Lin, made SCRUBS win because he had heart, IQ, and players were able to play off his ability to penetrate/score/and facilitate

Also he always looked to push the TEMPO for easy shots and attacked the opponents DEFENSE, a reason why we have been horrible?

Or

Maybe they have other incentives as they are not real Knick fans, cause the evidence is in front of them but they continue to deny it, saying Felton is the better player than Lin....

REALLY?

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:damn, i need to refill on coffee before I can finish start reading these posts.

ha

Are these posters really that blind, dumb, or/and biast, racist, or haters, look at all the money we have spend on Kidd, Novak, Camby, AB, Felton, and the picks as well, so money was not the issue, and Lin, made SCRUBS win because he had heart, IQ, and players were able to play off his ability to penetrate/score/and facilitate

CrushAlot wrote:Don't disagree with Ron.

Are these posters really that blind, dumb, or/and biast, racist, or haters, look at all the money we have spend on Kidd, Novak, Camby, AB, Felton, and the picks as well, so money was not the issue, and Lin, made SCRUBS win because he had heart, IQ, and players were able to play off his ability to penetrate/score/and facilitate