Anthony is a FA to be who may choose to bolt for no-compensation, he is a volume scorer who needs a take charge PG to prevent him for killing flow on offense, which the Knicks do not have and likely can't get any time soon

Griffin has star appeal and more importantly can play. Would form a formidable inside 4-5 with Chandler.

Griffin is 24 years old and his best days are ahead of him.

Why the Clippers do it:

Griffin primarily operates in the paint where they also have a dunk minded C in DeAndre Jordan whose offensive game is completely cramped by Griffin being in the same space.

Paul is the type of PG who can bring the best out of Melo by getting him the ball in advantageous situations and helping him buy into team offense rather than ISO chucking.

They need to to change the look of that roster to go from a 2nd rate to top flight team. Creating space inside for Jordan while adding Melo's flexibility improves them.

Knixkik wrote:This has been talked about a lot here. I agree, if we were to change directions and move on from Melo, this is a deal that makes sense for both teams. LA clippers strongly consider it because of his ties to Paul and eagerness to seperate themselves from most WC teams. But not sure if either team has the balls to do a trade like this.

Has it really? First time here, but I agree it makes sense for both sides. I think Melo's game can win with the right pieces around it, I just dont think we can get the right pieces here any time soon and there remains the issues that he can up and leave and we get nothing. Griffin isnt a perfect player, he is a very much around the basket guy, but he can expand that a bit over time and he's efficient. We mist far too many shots. We need more guys who can score within the flow of an offense.

So I guess we'd have to move Melo before the trade deadline (I used to think the Griffin trade would be a nice fall back option if Dolan doesn't see sense until the offseason, but I don't think its possible under the cba)

MelosGottaGo wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Let me ask a question for those who enter this thread, that brings up a Melo/Griffin deal for the how ever many time, do you think the Clippers will win the championship this year or make it to the second round? A trade like this will probably not happen during the season but could occur after the season in a S&T.

I think the Clippers lose in the first or second round as presently constituted. I dont think they'd win the title this year with Melo, but I think they'd be instantly better and a legit title contender next season after having the balance of this season and all of next to come together. Right now the Clippers lack versatility, they have a great PG with 2 very good young bigs who stand around the basket and dunk. They detract from one another. Taking Griffin out of the paint, opens up more post time for Jordan. And Melo has an inside out game. He can create mismatches that Griffin can not and Paul knows how to find the mismatch in half court sets.

So if Griffin can't get it done with Chris Paul and a team almost perfectly fitted for him how will he get it done in NY with less to work with it? You are probably not going to find a center that can pull defenses away from the paint on offense and play great D to supplement Griffin's lack of D.

Is it a good fit for Melo and the Clippers I think it would be but for the Knicks I don't think so. So, how do you flip Griffin when he couldn't get it done with the Doc Rivers, Chris Paul, and a very deep team and if he doesn't perform up to par or the knicks don't put a great team around and he can't elevate his teammates?

MelosGottaGo wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Let me ask a question for those who enter this thread, that brings up a Melo/Griffin deal for the how ever many time, do you think the Clippers will win the championship this year or make it to the second round? A trade like this will probably not happen during the season but could occur after the season in a S&T.

I think the Clippers lose in the first or second round as presently constituted. I dont think they'd win the title this year with Melo, but I think they'd be instantly better and a legit title contender next season after having the balance of this season and all of next to come together. Right now the Clippers lack versatility, they have a great PG with 2 very good young bigs who stand around the basket and dunk. They detract from one another. Taking Griffin out of the paint, opens up more post time for Jordan. And Melo has an inside out game. He can create mismatches that Griffin can not and Paul knows how to find the mismatch in half court sets.

first of all sterling said he will never trade Blake griffin, take that for what it's worth.. who knows... second... why would the clippers need carmelo, they don't suffer scoring the ball.. if anything they need a wing who can defend to play with paul.. carmelo and defense don't mix... clippers don't need a chucker... they need a luol deng type player at SF..

Blake would be great here in NY... but again, why would the clippers make this deal.. the package of players they could get for blake would be a lot better than what we can offer.. and again, they never said they wanted to trade him..

tkf wrote:

MelosGottaGo wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Let me ask a question for those who enter this thread, that brings up a Melo/Griffin deal for the how ever many time, do you think the Clippers will win the championship this year or make it to the second round? A trade like this will probably not happen during the season but could occur after the season in a S&T.

I think the Clippers lose in the first or second round as presently constituted. I dont think they'd win the title this year with Melo, but I think they'd be instantly better and a legit title contender next season after having the balance of this season and all of next to come together. Right now the Clippers lack versatility, they have a great PG with 2 very good young bigs who stand around the basket and dunk. They detract from one another. Taking Griffin out of the paint, opens up more post time for Jordan. And Melo has an inside out game. He can create mismatches that Griffin can not and Paul knows how to find the mismatch in half court sets.

first of all sterling said he will never trade Blake griffin, take that for what it's worth.. who knows... second... why would the clippers need carmelo, they don't suffer scoring the ball.. if anything they need a wing who can defend to play with paul.. carmelo and defense don't mix... clippers don't need a chucker... they need a luol deng type player at SF..

Blake would be great here in NY... but again, why would the clippers make this deal.. the package of players they could get for blake would be a lot better than what we can offer.. and again, they never said they wanted to trade him..

Killa4luv wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

MelosGottaGo wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Let me ask a question for those who enter this thread, that brings up a Melo/Griffin deal for the how ever many time, do you think the Clippers will win the championship this year or make it to the second round? A trade like this will probably not happen during the season but could occur after the season in a S&T.

I think the Clippers lose in the first or second round as presently constituted. I dont think they'd win the title this year with Melo, but I think they'd be instantly better and a legit title contender next season after having the balance of this season and all of next to come together. Right now the Clippers lack versatility, they have a great PG with 2 very good young bigs who stand around the basket and dunk. They detract from one another. Taking Griffin out of the paint, opens up more post time for Jordan. And Melo has an inside out game. He can create mismatches that Griffin can not and Paul knows how to find the mismatch in half court sets.

So if Griffin can't get it done with Chris Paul and a team almost perfectly fitted for him how will he get it done in NY with less to work with it? You are probably not going to find a center that can pull defenses away from the paint on offense and play great D to supplement Griffin's lack of D.

Is it a good fit for Melo and the Clippers I think it would be but for the Knicks I don't think so. So, how do you flip Griffin when he couldn't get it done with the Doc Rivers, Chris Paul, and a very deep team and if he doesn't perform up to par or the knicks don't put a great team around and he can't elevate his teammates?

this guy gets it. Griffin is fools gold.

we should be experts we have the biggest pot of fools gold here in ny..

tkf wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tkf wrote:

MelosGottaGo wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Let me ask a question for those who enter this thread, that brings up a Melo/Griffin deal for the how ever many time, do you think the Clippers will win the championship this year or make it to the second round? A trade like this will probably not happen during the season but could occur after the season in a S&T.

I think the Clippers lose in the first or second round as presently constituted. I dont think they'd win the title this year with Melo, but I think they'd be instantly better and a legit title contender next season after having the balance of this season and all of next to come together. Right now the Clippers lack versatility, they have a great PG with 2 very good young bigs who stand around the basket and dunk. They detract from one another. Taking Griffin out of the paint, opens up more post time for Jordan. And Melo has an inside out game. He can create mismatches that Griffin can not and Paul knows how to find the mismatch in half court sets.

first of all sterling said he will never trade Blake griffin, take that for what it's worth.. who knows... second... why would the clippers need carmelo, they don't suffer scoring the ball.. if anything they need a wing who can defend to play with paul.. carmelo and defense don't mix... clippers don't need a chucker... they need a luol deng type player at SF..

Blake would be great here in NY... but again, why would the clippers make this deal.. the package of players they could get for blake would be a lot better than what we can offer.. and again, they never said they wanted to trade him..

what I have read is that a source said Sterling would never trade Blake. That is different tyen sterling saying it. I also saw where it was speculated that a Blake for melo trade might be the one move where Sterling considers trading Blake.

sterling has a cash cow in blake, plus blake is young, the spurs are aging and only the thunder at this point stand in their way... why would they move blake, this is just more nY knick speculation, wishing and hoping.. these are the dreams of dead franchises and losing teams... the clippers are trying to figure out how to advance in the playoffs only the knicks and their fans are trying to figure out how to pawn off their aging max garbage on other teams..

sterling is a jerk, but he is not a fool either..

There was an article a while ago saying the Clips are interested in Melo not just because he's friends with CP3 or that it would make the team better, but because the Clips are renegotiating their tv deal, and felt they could get a lot more money with Melo (who whether you like it or not is more popular to casual basketball fans than Blake)on the Roster than Blake. (which is usually Sterlings priority).

Personally, I don't like Griffin at all, but I think if Melo decides to leave, really the Clips are the only destination where we could get something back (I'd rather trade Griffin to the Suns for picks, but Dolan doesn't think that way).

Doubt it will happen though, as Dolan will refuse to accept Melo is leaving until it's too late.

1) Melo for Blake Griffin, do you make that deal? A crazy rumor I recently discussed with my colleague Jeff Morton. That leads to ... What's up with the Clippers chemistry? Is the team close? Overblown media stuff?

Steve Perrin: I'm really glad you asked me about the Griffin-Melo rumors -- which aren't rumors so much as idle speculation from the likes of Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless, guys that like to hear themselves talk. I've made a couple of comments along the way, but never felt compelled to do a full blown post on it, so you've given me that opportunity.

The Clippers would never consider trading Blake Griffin for Carmelo Anthony, nor should they. Carmelo does exactly one thing better than Griffin -- score. And even there, you sort of have to define your terms, since Griffin is a more efficient scorer than Anthony (Anthony's TSP of .560 last season was very near his career high, but it was still less than Griffin's .572). So actually the one thing Carmelo does better is shoot free throws. Griffin's a better rebounder, passer and defender, plus he's younger, still improving, less expensive, signed for longer, more likeable, better looking, a better actor, and nicer to animals (I'm just assuming on the animals part, but it stands to reason). Griffin is wildly popular among Clipper fans and the front office would think twice about trading him for a player who is actually better than he is (say Kevin Love) for fear of alienating the fan base. They would scoff at the idea of doing it for Anthony. Why would they? For Carmelo's star power? As if the Clippers and Griffin are lacking in that department.

The funny thing is, I actually think Carmelo might respond really well to playing alongside Chris Paul. Melo has always been "the man" in Denver and New York, but I've never been more impressed with him than I was when he was a designated scorer on Team USA. Without the responsibility of being the team's "best player", Melo was free to do what he does best, score unapologetically. But the Clippers wouldn't touch Melo for Griffin with a ten foot pole.

Based on your question, I can only assume that you've read something recently that implies that Paul and Griffin somehow don't get along -- no doubt also coming from guys like Stephen A and Skip, offered up to support their trade idea. If so, I've successfully tuned it out. I saw some of those issues reported last season -- but never bought the stories. I've never seen any indication of issues between the two, and I've yet to see any such tension reported by a source I trusted. The chemistry on the team is terrific as far as I can tell, but as with every team, it's better when they're winning, worse when they're losing.

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