"I believe I've established myself as a head coach and I'd like another opportunity to show that [my success] wasn't a fluke," Hollins said. "I feel like I've proven I can take a young team and develop it, then sustain what I've done by what I did in the last five years in Memphis."

Did he say "young team"?

Never mind.

Gasol - Tyson
Zach - Melo
Allen - Shump
Conely - Felton

Just like Woody is a worse version of Hollins

gunsnewing wrote:I like that he develops young players. I'd be ok with this. This is one of the things that separates the Knicks from indiana. Drafting and developing their own young players. Well that and the fact that our owner is a clown

Why bother when you can have a fancy, big name player!

That is what is happening to the knicks. Its what Mills is to be bringing to the table.

I'd deduct that Hollins is not our guy.

Nalod wrote:HOllins openly rejected the new owner and his inclusion of the new metrics to decide roster.

That is what is happening to the knicks. Its what Mills is to be bringing to the table.

I'd deduct that Hollins is not our guy.

Good point about Hollins not being a metric guy. I like him though. Then again, what current coaches actually utilize metrics in their coaching strategies? That stuff seems to be unique to front offices and not the sideline (I think).

NardDogNation wrote:

Nalod wrote:HOllins openly rejected the new owner and his inclusion of the new metrics to decide roster.

That is what is happening to the knicks. Its what Mills is to be bringing to the table.

I'd deduct that Hollins is not our guy.

Good point about Hollins not being a metric guy. I like him though. Then again, what current coaches actually utilize metrics in their coaching strategies? That stuff seems to be unique to front offices and not the sideline (I think).

Memphis did just fine without rudy gay. Hollins did a great job with what was left. He took a position and it cost him.

I Think Dolan is trying to come up with the better method than the one that got us Amare and Melo.

Woodson goes:

18-6
54-27
and at 3-13 we gonna shyt can him thinking as one would think rearranging the deck chairs of the Titanic would have saved the ship.

What is missing?

Amare is at the moment out of shape trying to come back.
JR has secret surgeries and not the strongest mind on the team.
Shump has secret surgery, lost confidence, and might be in pain.
Tyson is out.
Metta is old but funny.
Kenyon not providing leadership
Felton is skinny but not stronger
Pablo is really 42
Hardaway acts like he never dunked before
and Melo checked out............

Oh, woodson forgot how to coach.

gunsnewing wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:I like that he develops young players. I'd be ok with this. This is one of the things that separates the Knicks from indiana. Drafting and developing their own young players. Well that and the fact that our owner is a clown

What young players has Hollins developed? OJ Mayo? Xavier Henry? Tony Wroten? Most of the draft picks that the Grizzlies had were either traded away within 2-3 seasons and/or made their name known elsewhere. Hollins is a good coach but a developer of talent he is not.

Marc gasol tony Allen and Conley

Tony Allen was Tony Allen before he got to Memphis. Conley and Gasol are certainly credits to Hollins' resume but you're talking about a former perennial lottery team that had multiple picks in multiple drafts, over the course of the 5-6 seasons Hollins coached. Where are the other players that they should've had?

gunsnewing wrote:H20 is probably very familiar with Hollins. I can definitely see getting him to coach. Guys like SVG AND Karl are loose cannons. Can't see Dolan hiring them. Hollins made his distste for Memphis new approach known but I think he fits what Dolan is looking for. He won't rattle the cage. Coaches both ends of the floor and is good with young players. We can do a lot worse

How can you say that?

He openly said the metric thing is bull. So how does that fit what Dolan is looking for when this is the direction the front office hired Mills for.

Karl openly said he would never coach here. You can't see dolan hiring him? Of course not, he JUST SAID TWO DAYS AGO HE WOULD NEVER DO IT!!! You see this? Of course you do, KARL SLAMMED MELO AFTER HE LEFT!! KARL WON"T COACH MELO, AND MELO WON"T PLAY FOR KARL!

SVG is not a loose cannon, he is intellegent and not a suck up. He pushed back against Dwight openly and yet kept his integrity. How is that a loose cannon?

Stan knows better whan an idiot Dolan is. Why would he come here other than for money? To get a muzzle put on him?

If Woodson is let go here is how it goes:

Hire a young progressive fresh coach. Ooops, that was Kenny Atkinson!

Plan "B", its Herb and all the while Melo and the CAA Taliban get to remake the franchise providing he stays. Put Calipari out there so he can get his 10th new contract at Kentucky.

Guns, I do like Hollins but being im not sure he can impact the team this season and won't have a bearing on Melo staying.

Melo plays hard for Woodson, I think Woodson gets fired is a real bad sign.

Nalod wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:H20 is probably very familiar with Hollins. I can definitely see getting him to coach. Guys like SVG AND Karl are loose cannons. Can't see Dolan hiring them. Hollins made his distste for Memphis new approach known but I think he fits what Dolan is looking for. He won't rattle the cage. Coaches both ends of the floor and is good with young players. We can do a lot worse

How can you say that?

He openly said the metric thing is bull. So how does that fit what Dolan is looking for when this is the direction the front office hired Mills for.

Karl openly said he would never coach here. You can't see dolan hiring him? Of course not, he JUST SAID TWO DAYS AGO HE WOULD NEVER DO IT!!! You see this? Of course you do, KARL SLAMMED MELO AFTER HE LEFT!! KARL WON"T COACH MELO, AND MELO WON"T PLAY FOR KARL!

SVG is not a loose cannon, he is intellegent and not a suck up. He pushed back against Dwight openly and yet kept his integrity. How is that a loose cannon?

Stan knows better whan an idiot Dolan is. Why would he come here other than for money? To get a muzzle put on him?

If Woodson is let go here is how it goes:

Hire a young progressive fresh coach. Ooops, that was Kenny Atkinson!

Plan "B", its Herb and all the while Melo and the CAA Taliban get to remake the franchise providing he stays. Put Calipari out there so he can get his 10th new contract at Kentucky.

Guns, I do like Hollins but being im not sure he can impact the team this season and won't have a bearing on Melo staying.

Melo plays hard for Woodson, I think Woodson gets fired is a real bad sign.

Loose cannon is a bad choice of words. What I meant was he would never take the job and be forced to put up with Dolan. Jeff I think would take it because he's proven in New York but not until the offseason