Arent you guys girls fans scared that the asset we gave up so much for-- that he can easily just walk end of season for no compensation--will just do so? Do we want the guy for 5 years and 150 anyway? Lets get real I mean REAL

I say the following
trade Carmelo Anthony to the highest bidder for a deal that focuses on getting much younger and younger with a plan.
Convince Amare Stoudemire end of season to opt out and become part of the franchise management
Trade teh vets including Tyson with the same goal as Cramelo--get youngher and focus towards 2015--that goes for anyone on the team

The guys I can focus on are Murry Hardaway Aldrich Tyler and any young guys we get in a trade. Make Bargani the main guy and concentrate on letting him increase his trade value
Move out the coaching staff and start new

Im basically planning for 2015 now--thats how you do ti in the NBA--we cultivate young players for 1.5 years with the goal of having a top 5 pick adn maximum cap sapce for 2015 to rebuild the team in a way that can be stabilized for 6-8 years

Hoping this team turns around is blind faith--its not reality based--Id rather sck now and have a plan in place then sck for another decade.

CrushAlot wrote:I like the Amare option. He can opt out after this year. If the team buys him out can they do it through his opt out? It would save on luxury tax and would open up a roster spot. Not sure about the other options at this point. I definitely see Amare as needing to be gone.

"Hey Amar'e, do you know how you believe in miracles and think you can be elite again? And do you know how we owe you $20mil next season? How about you just stop playing, and you walk away from that $20mil and pretend like it never happened?"

Sure it would go down well...

BRIGGS wrote:This team stinks--if you cant see that your blind. We have lottery win talent in our backcourt and this is NOT changing. I could care less who is coach when we play a team that has a John Wall--we cant win from the start of the game. Look at Damian Lillard the other night. What coach can stop this bleeding from a talent side? We have two 4wards Martin and Amare who at anytime can implode--they were on a platoon system--what winning NBA teams have that? Bargani is terribly inconsistent JR smith too--so this team cant win we have NO chance to beat a good team in 5 games let alone 7--we dont have the talent.

Arent you guys girls fans scared that the asset we gave up so much for-- that he can easily just walk end of season for no compensation--will just do so? Do we want the guy for 5 years and 150 anyway? Lets get real I mean REAL

I say the following
trade Carmelo Anthony to the highest bidder for a deal that focuses on getting much younger and younger with a plan.
Convince Amare Stoudemire end of season to opt out and become part of the franchise management
Trade teh vets including Tyson with the same goal as Cramelo--get youngher and focus towards 2015--that goes for anyone on the team

The guys I can focus on are Murry Hardaway Aldrich Tyler and any young guys we get in a trade. Make Bargani the main guy and concentrate on letting him increase his trade value
Move out the coaching staff and start new

Im basically planning for 2015 now--thats how you do ti in the NBA--we cultivate young players for 1.5 years with the goal of having a top 5 pick adn maximum cap sapce for 2015 to rebuild the team in a way that can be stabilized for 6-8 years

Hoping this team turns around is blind faith--its not reality based--Id rather sck now and have a plan in place then sck for another decade.

Papabear Says

We are known to eat our young. Destroy our young. So what make you think we will pick the best young players. All I hear the Knicks management talk about is the new bridge inside MSG. We need to get players like lebron or another super star or two. None of the Knicks can shoot or play defense. its a crime for Amare to be out there on the floor. He is done. Last night I saw players drive past Felton and no help came. We have no 3 point shooters and yet we still keep trying. Woody is supposed to be a defensive coach?? Give him 10 more games and if we can't win 50% of the games I would say let him go but lets just let the season go. If we can't get a commitment from Melo then we trade him and we will have to rebuild because no star is coming to NY because the word is that the Knicks is Toxic with Dolan and his crew. We need to fire all of the assistant coaches. This team is playing like they have no clue what the other is doing. Through all of this I still remain a faithful Knicks Fan.

smackeddog wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I like the Amare option. He can opt out after this year. If the team buys him out can they do it through his opt out? It would save on luxury tax and would open up a roster spot. Not sure about the other options at this point. I definitely see Amare as needing to be gone.

"Hey Amar'e, do you know how you believe in miracles and think you can be elite again? And do you know how we owe you $20mil next season? How about you just stop playing, and you walk away from that $20mil and pretend like it never happened?"

Sure it would go down well...

What stop s us from giving Amare a 6 year 5mm per contract to be in management?

BRIGGS wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I like the Amare option. He can opt out after this year. If the team buys him out can they do it through his opt out? It would save on luxury tax and would open up a roster spot. Not sure about the other options at this point. I definitely see Amare as needing to be gone.

"Hey Amar'e, do you know how you believe in miracles and think you can be elite again? And do you know how we owe you $20mil next season? How about you just stop playing, and you walk away from that $20mil and pretend like it never happened?"

Sure it would go down well...

What stop s us from giving Amare a 6 year 5mm per contract to be in management?

The NBA! AK47 got away with it because they couldn't trace any additional money, but if Amar'e suddenly became a $5mil a year manager, despite having no management experience, the NBA would take away all of our first round picks for the next 20 years! (on the off chance Dolan hadn't already traded them away)

yes, we are stupid. we are not as smart as we think we are.

the knicks fans chanted stephon marbury's name when he was benched by d'antoni.

new york sports fans are no different than the mob in the roman colosseum.

you think these fans will sit back and wait for some younger players to develop? this board used to destroy david lee and have already given up on shump.

here's how a ny gm has to operate (in all sports) - win in every single trade and then proceed to challenge for a title within 3 years of being hired. that's what the fans want.

any plan involving waiting will never work here. especially after being burned in 2010 by not getting anyone.

BRIGGS wrote:This team stinks--if you cant see that your blind. We have lottery win talent in our backcourt and this is NOT changing. I could care less who is coach when we play a team that has a John Wall--we cant win from the start of the game. Look at Damian Lillard the other night. What coach can stop this bleeding from a talent side? We have two 4wards Martin and Amare who at anytime can implode--they were on a platoon system--what winning NBA teams have that? Bargani is terribly inconsistent JR smith too--so this team cant win we have NO chance to beat a good team in 5 games let alone 7--we dont have the talent.

Arent you guys girls fans scared that the asset we gave up so much for-- that he can easily just walk end of season for no compensation--will just do so? Do we want the guy for 5 years and 150 anyway? Lets get real I mean REAL

I say the following
trade Carmelo Anthony to the highest bidder for a deal that focuses on getting much younger and younger with a plan.
Convince Amare Stoudemire end of season to opt out and become part of the franchise management
Trade teh vets including Tyson with the same goal as Cramelo--get youngher and focus towards 2015--that goes for anyone on the team

The guys I can focus on are Murry Hardaway Aldrich Tyler and any young guys we get in a trade. Make Bargani the main guy and concentrate on letting him increase his trade value
Move out the coaching staff and start new

Im basically planning for 2015 now--thats how you do ti in the NBA--we cultivate young players for 1.5 years with the goal of having a top 5 pick adn maximum cap sapce for 2015 to rebuild the team in a way that can be stabilized for 6-8 years

Hoping this team turns around is blind faith--its not reality based--Id rather sck now and have a plan in place then sck for another decade.

Briggs, it is simple, the knicks are falling further and further behind on the talent scale.. just look at our talent level and look at the level of talent of even the lesser teams in the league.... we are falling far behind..

the only...the ONLY reason knicks fans didn't go nuts on the losing during the lee/chandler/gallo teams was the promise of 2010.

2010 was a total failure.

so now there is no incentive for knicks fans at all to sit patiently. excitement means nothing if there are no wins. the % of fans that think like you are probably less than 10% - goes the same for all ny fans.

i agree with you that the knicks need to trade melo asap and get picks back b/c he's the only one you can deal right now. chandler won't get you a lottery pick and everybody else has zero value. but i'm talking reality vs. what they really should do.

this is what ny fans are good add - dissecting and criticizing. ewing was destroyed here for 5+ years and that team was a contender every year.

i didn't mean to derail your thread but it's just not going ot happen in ny.

BRIGGS wrote:This team stinks--if you cant see that your blind. We have lottery win talent in our backcourt and this is NOT changing. I could care less who is coach when we play a team that has a John Wall--we cant win from the start of the game. Look at Damian Lillard the other night. What coach can stop this bleeding from a talent side? We have two 4wards Martin and Amare who at anytime can implode--they were on a platoon system--what winning NBA teams have that? Bargani is terribly inconsistent JR smith too--so this team cant win we have NO chance to beat a good team in 5 games let alone 7--we dont have the talent.

Arent you guys girls fans scared that the asset we gave up so much for-- that he can easily just walk end of season for no compensation--will just do so? Do we want the guy for 5 years and 150 anyway? Lets get real I mean REAL

I say the following
trade Carmelo Anthony to the highest bidder for a deal that focuses on getting much younger and younger with a plan.
Convince Amare Stoudemire end of season to opt out and become part of the franchise management
Trade teh vets including Tyson with the same goal as Cramelo--get youngher and focus towards 2015--that goes for anyone on the team

The guys I can focus on are Murry Hardaway Aldrich Tyler and any young guys we get in a trade. Make Bargani the main guy and concentrate on letting him increase his trade value
Move out the coaching staff and start new

Im basically planning for 2015 now--thats how you do ti in the NBA--we cultivate young players for 1.5 years with the goal of having a top 5 pick adn maximum cap sapce for 2015 to rebuild the team in a way that can be stabilized for 6-8 years

Hoping this team turns around is blind faith--its not reality based--Id rather sck now and have a plan in place then sck for another decade.

I'm all for it. This team is clearly going nowhere and we need to start preparing for the future. The Lakers, Clippers, Thunder, Bucks, Wizards, Pelicans, Pistons, and Cavs are all teams with tradeable assets that would be interested in parts of our roster. We need to auction of our players and get back as many draft picks and young players with potential that we can. Without taking back large salaries in 2015. Tank next season for the highest pick possible and rebuild that Summer. And then, with the other picks we received, we'll be able to consistently add capable players of our hopefully talented team so we can continue to improve.