- The only way Dolan will even consider shaking things up is if things go really bad and the fans stop coming to the games. The team is making a fortune and that's all that matters to him.

- I'm torn on whether or not I want to re-sign Melo, but an awful season will at least put the front office and the delusional members of our fanbase on notice that THE NEW YORK KNICKS WILL NEVER WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH CARMELO ANTHONY AS THEIR BEST PLAYER.

I would be 100% behind going into full rebuilding mode and letting go of Melo, but thanks to our awful front office that's not a possibility since we've traded away so many 1st rounders already. The best thing that could happen right now is for us to continue to be the laughing stock of the NBA for the rest of the season so the front office realizes they need to make as many changes as possible and do what's needed to bring in a true superstar next to Melo.

It's way too early in the season to even think about that. For one thing this team is very likely to get healthy and actually start winning games. It's not a team that I can see being a bottom feeder when fully healthy. Some of these losses were actually pretty close games. I can see them having won a few of them with a healthy Tyson and Felton.

Melonoma wrote:- We're not making the playoffs and if somehow we sneak in as a 7th or 8th seed, we'll be swept in the first round.

- The only way Dolan will even consider shaking things up is if things go really bad and the fans stop coming to the games. The team is making a fortune and that's all that matters to him.

- I'm torn on whether or not I want to re-sign Melo, but an awful season will at least put the front office and the delusional members of our fanbase on notice that THE NEW YORK KNICKS WILL NEVER WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH CARMELO ANTHONY AS THEIR BEST PLAYER.

I would be 100% behind going into full rebuilding mode and letting go of Melo, but thanks to our awful front office that's not a possibility since we've traded away so many 1st rounders already. The best thing that could happen right now is for us to continue to be the laughing stock of the NBA for the rest of the season so the front office realizes they need to make as many changes as possible and do what's needed to bring in a true superstar next to Melo.

full rebuild mode.. trade the most valauable pieces you have now and try to get some picks back.. that would be a start..

Moonangie wrote:How does a fan root against their team? Seems off to me, even though I understand the logic behind tanking for draft odds. But spiteful tanking? Nah.

Considering our coach, roster and start, its also foolish to root for wins.

So be like me and dont give an ish, because those players wearing orange and blue sure dont give a fudge about New York.

CrushAlot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Moonangie wrote:How does a fan root against their team? Seems off to me, even though I understand the logic behind tanking for draft odds. But spiteful tanking? Nah.

It's short-term rooting against but long-term rooting for.
You could argue that rooting for the continuation of our mediocre roster is really rooting against the team.

If you propose this next year when the team has its pick and cap space coming up maybe I could get behind it. There is no benefit to rooting for losses now. Similar to when D'Antoni had the 11-12 team headed towards the lottery when Houston had the pick, there is no reason to root for losing. Also, what has the owner done that makes you think he will make positive changes?

The draft pick has no relevance. Dolan would just trade it for an overrated, injury-prone veteran.
If Mills is going to actually make the top metrics his primary use for evaluating players, then that's a good change and I'd root for it to work well.

gunsnewing wrote:Apparently the picks we gave up in the Curry trade that amounted to Noah and Aldridge wasn't enough to teach Dolan. Maybe this lottery pick we threw in the Melo deal will. I agree the higher the pick the worst the embarrassment will be