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Nalod
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11/12/2013  1:15 PM
Via Adrian Wojo...........

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--knicks--dysfunction-turns-to-fantasy--n-y--already-dreaming-of-kevin-love-in-2015-070030695.html

Through the decay and debris of a crumbling infrastructure, chasing the championship parade that never marches, the New York Knicks' recruitment to retain Carmelo Anthony comes with the promise to pursue Kevin Love into the franchise's 2015 salary-cap space.

LeBron James comes free too soon (2014), Kevin Durant too late (2016), and the best, biggest star available to New York has been validating management's wanderlust with an MVP-esque start to the Minnesota Timberwolves' season.

In a lot of ways, the Knicks are pursuing the illusion of a title with Anthony as their centerpiece. Nevertheless, they're unwavering in turning the franchise over to him. The plan had been a three-year window to chase a championship, but it turned into one season – if it was ever that a year ago. New York is pushing toward a fresh scapegoat, coach Mike Woodson, but the Knicks are a combustible blend whose struggles have far less to do with their coaching and far more to do with lousy ownership.

New York is back where it started with 'Melo in 2011, framing a future for him that looks so much better than the present. To re-sign Anthony upon his contract opt-out in July, the Knicks count upon the fact that they can still give him three things no one else can: a five-year, nearly $130 million extension; the bright lights of the Madison Square Garden marquee; and an expedited retooling plan.

Almost assuredly, Love will exercise his early termination option in two years and take a strong look at where the free-agent landscape stands with the T'wolves. He could re-sign a longer, richer deal with Minnesota, or chase big-market platforms in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago and perhaps elsewhere.

The Knicks are buried in salary-cap hell through 2014, awaiting Amar'e Stoudemire ($23.4 million), Tyson Chandler ($14.3 million) and Andrea Bargnani ($12 million) to expire. The Knicks are sold on Love in 2015, sources tell Yahoo Sports, and they've already begun devising a strategy to lure him when the time comes.

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The possibility of leaving the Knicks for the Los Angeles Lakers will be Melo's leverage until it no longer is, but as one source with knowledge of the process says: "Do you think 'Melo wants to be known for not winning titles in New York and L.A.?"

There are beloved ex-Knicks who never win titles – Patrick Ewing, John Starks, Larry Johnson – but those players don't exist in Lakers lore. If winning is an obsession to Anthony, let's be honest: He would've stayed in better shape, been a better leader and teammate in his career. Anthony would've used his organizational muscle to spare the franchise's wasting of a roster spot for J.R. Smith's younger brother as part of a sweetener to re-sign the NBA's Sixth Man of the Year.

Everyone wants to blame Creative Arts Agency for the packaging of the players, but Chris Smith, associated with a different agency two years ago, had been granted a guaranteed contract with the Knicks for the 2011-12 season. Only, Smith blew out his knee and received his $490,000 on the injured list. This was a stooge deal on New York's behalf, an embarrassment afforded a player, J.R. Smith, who doesn't deserve this kind of treatment.

"Glen Grunwald never wanted to do it, never felt right about it back then," one source with knowledge of the package deal said. "That call came from above him."
Within the Knicks coaching staff, they believe Chris Smith doesn't even have the talent to be an NBA Development League player – never mind worthy of a roster spot. One opposing GM called him "maybe the worst player in the history of the [NBA] summer league."

Perhaps that's harsh, but the Knicks need to sign a big man in the wake of Tyson Chandler's fractured leg, and Chris Smith's roster spot creates an obstacle.

In the end, the Knicks give Anthony everything he wants, including the recent hiring of his personal trainer, Idan Ravin. There is a complete disconnect between Ravin and the Knicks' coaching staff, who have little use for him, sources said.

Still, the Knicks coaches understand: From a wasted roster spot to a highly paid personal trainer who can act independently of the coaching staff's wishes, ownership makes it hard for good players to want to leave. And truth be told, ownership makes it hard to coach good players in New York. Take a look at model franchises in San Antonio, Miami and Indiana, and you'll see: This all makes winning harder, not easier.

Now, owner James Dolan has turned over the Knicks to Steve Mills as president and general manager. Only in the Knicks' parallel universe can an executive help run the franchise into the ground for a decade with Isiah Thomas, get fired, move into the financial sector, chase the National Basketball Players Association's top job and then, somehow, get his old job back – this time with more power.

The Knicks can afford to pursue the best basketball minds on the planet, and yet they recycle top executives with failed, unaccomplished or untested histories. Donnie Walsh and Grunwald had been exceptions, and yet ultimately they were run out of the GM job. This is why the Knicks are unable to build something sustainable, why they're forever chasing salary-cap space, chasing stars, chasing the illusion of contention.

Kevin Love is on deck to be recruited to New York in 2015, and that's among the reasons the Timberwolves are so determined to make deals to climb deep into the playoffs these next two years. Young Minnesota players Derrick Williams and Alexey Shved are available in deals for veterans to help these T'wolves now, league executives told Yahoo Sports.

The suitors promise to be plentiful for Love in two years, which is why the Knicks are already brainstorming his pursuit, sources said.

Between now and July free agency, the Love pursuit will be part of New York's hard sell to Anthony. The Knicks are a mess now, but the mirage never changes: always a salvation on the way at the Garden, always a championship parade headed down the Canyon of Heroes. With the Knicks able to pay $30 million more than everyone else on the market, with the Knicks affording him and his inner circle a full run of the Garden, make no mistake: Carmelo Anthony will want badly to believe them. Again.

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Nalod
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11/12/2013  2:04 PM
We really making a big run for Love?
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11/12/2013  2:13 PM
Good stuff.. Thanks for posting this.

Kevin Love is a loveable guy. I would definitely not mind having him on our team.

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11/12/2013  2:17 PM
Can you just imagine Kevin Love and Melo on this team?

I mean really, can you guys imagine it?

Think it through for yourselves, some things don't need to be typed.

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skeng
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11/12/2013  2:22 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:Can you just imagine Kevin Love and Melo on this team?

I mean really, can you guys imagine it?

Think it through for yourselves, some things don't need to be typed.

But he's DLee on steroids!!!

It sounds so ludicrous that it might... actually... juuust... work

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11/12/2013  2:26 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:Can you just imagine Kevin Love and Melo on this team?

I mean really, can you guys imagine it?

Think it through for yourselves, some things don't need to be typed.

knowing that was our defensive frontline for the next 4 to 5 years would make me weep!

I'm not a fan of Kevin Love, but to be fair, his monster numbers actually seem to be resulting in wins so far this season.

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11/12/2013  2:30 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:Can you just imagine Kevin Love and Melo on this team?

I mean really, can you guys imagine it?

Think it through for yourselves, some things don't need to be typed.

Melo..Loves...World Peace

Its the sixties all over again....Love ♡...peace and happiness.

The problem is not having a lack of stars....its building around melo. Until this organization understands melo and iverson are similar....the knicks will go no where with melo. You have to use philly as an example. Otherwise....trade melo.

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11/12/2013  3:48 PM
blkexec wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:Can you just imagine Kevin Love and Melo on this team?

I mean really, can you guys imagine it?

Think it through for yourselves, some things don't need to be typed.

Melo..Loves...World Peace

Its the sixties all over again....Love ♡...peace and happiness.

The problem is not having a lack of stars....its building around melo. Until this organization understands melo and iverson are similar....the knicks will go no where with melo. You have to use philly as an example. Otherwise....trade melo.

haha... good one. Or even use the Denver example. Melo had his best years playing off the ball with Iverson and Billups. You cant just ask him to do that, you need to put the better player next to him.
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11/12/2013  5:36 PM
So, even though Melo and the Knicks have had their greatest success with Melo playing power forward... we're going to chase another power forward two years from now? And we're presumable going to be able to give a max contract to Melo and Love and still be able to put a decent supporting cast around them?
Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
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11/12/2013  5:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/12/2013  5:38 PM
blkexec wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:Can you just imagine Kevin Love and Melo on this team?

I mean really, can you guys imagine it?

Think it through for yourselves, some things don't need to be typed.

Melo..Loves...World Peace

Its the sixties all over again....Love ♡...peace and happiness.

The problem is not having a lack of stars....its building around melo. Until this organization understands melo and iverson are similar....the knicks will go no where with melo. You have to use philly as an example. Otherwise....trade melo.

I kinda have my fingers crossed that we could see a pairing of Rudy Gay and Kevin Love. That Gay-Love tandem would definitely be able to punish teams down low, lol.

Nalod
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11/12/2013  8:26 PM
Im not falling for the starphuch no mo'!

If it happens, great. Not going into "Imagine" mode.

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11/12/2013  9:03 PM
'One opposing GM called him [Chris Smith] "maybe the worst player in the history of the [NBA] summer league."'

Ouch.

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11/12/2013  9:11 PM
markvmc wrote:'One opposing GM called him [Chris Smith] "maybe the worst player in the history of the [NBA] summer league."'

Ouch.

lol, many folks around here would agree

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Nalod
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11/12/2013  10:05 PM
If JR gets back to form, then "Welfare Chris" would be worth it?
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11/12/2013  10:48 PM
Who cares about Love if the point of this article is as valid as its ever been. Ownership is our worst problem and after a comeback season from the team, now we have to see Dolan want to take charge again and mess everything up.

The Chris Smith situation is a fiasco. The solid moves we seemed to make are backfiring, and who really expects any consistency from Bargnani and J.R. Smith? Woodson still hasn't figured out a freaking lineup. Effort is low but the players still like to talk a lot.

We expect different results while we watch the team repeat the same mistakes over and over again. That's insanity. As a fan I'd like to see us have better results but truth is, things keep going in circles and I wonder if last season was all there was about us being "any good".

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11/12/2013  11:35 PM
Nalod wrote:If JR gets back to form, then "Welfare Chris" would be worth it?

I would like to get his food-stamps...

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11/13/2013  3:01 AM
Can't effin believe this:http://nypost.com/2013/11/12/flap-of-luxury-chris-smith-pact-costing-knicks-2m/
The Knicks still plan to re-sign the rehabbing Tyler in December and will waive either Smith or Tour’e Murry if the 6-foot-10 Las Vegas summer-league sensation looks good in D-League games with their Erie affiliate. They would save more money by waiving Murry, because his pact doesn’t become guaranteed until January.
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11/13/2013  9:00 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:Can't effin believe this:http://nypost.com/2013/11/12/flap-of-luxury-chris-smith-pact-costing-knicks-2m/
The Knicks still plan to re-sign the rehabbing Tyler in December and will waive either Smith or Tour’e Murry if the 6-foot-10 Las Vegas summer-league sensation looks good in D-League games with their Erie affiliate. They would save more money by waiving Murry, because his pact doesn’t become guaranteed until January.

That's gotta be great for the chemistry in the lockerroom

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11/13/2013  9:23 AM
Nalod wrote:If JR gets back to form, then "Welfare Chris" would be worth it?

If JR Smith becomes the best player in the NBA the Knicks will Max out Chris.

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11/13/2013  9:42 AM
NardDogNation wrote:
blkexec wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:Can you just imagine Kevin Love and Melo on this team?

I mean really, can you guys imagine it?

Think it through for yourselves, some things don't need to be typed.

Melo..Loves...World Peace

Its the sixties all over again....Love ♡...peace and happiness.

The problem is not having a lack of stars....its building around melo. Until this organization understands melo and iverson are similar....the knicks will go no where with melo. You have to use philly as an example. Otherwise....trade melo.

I kinda have my fingers crossed that we could see a pairing of Rudy Gay and Kevin Love. That Gay-Love tandem would definitely be able to punish teams down low, lol.

Effing hilarious post! Give Nard a gold star for the day.

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