joec32033 wrote:I called this ending on the time out after the Chandler free throws. Their star will put them up and our star is gonna miss. How the hell does our guy get shown up by a guy that missed a year. The guy with the blown up knee makes an aggressive move to the basket while our guy jab steps a 22 foot 3 when we only need one point. See that look on Melo's face after the miss? That was him wondering about free agency. I feel like I am so done with this guy. All his big talk and bluster and it feels like the guy never comes through.
I thought when he came here he was touted as one of the BEST post up players in the league. He hasn't posted up in 3 freakin' years. Don't you think there is no time better to post up than down by one with 5 seconds to go and you have been shooting like **** the entire game.
How the hell can I be frustrated 2 games into a season you ask? Because it feels like last season. Our guy can take any team in the league as long as they aren't good. Then he comes up short 95% of the time. Kobe can call the guy whatever he wants. Melo aint a closer, and star players who don't possess closer qualities aren't true max players.

you make some good points, but being a closer is more than just scoring... and carmelo is just a scorer... He tends to take bad shots and that is not good for a so called closer... but in fairness rose took a shot with a degree of difficulty that I haven't seen in years.. he can make those, but that isn't a good shot either.... As I said, I rather have efficient players, so the game doesn't have to come come down to one shot.. both carmelo and rose were bricking..

Vmart wrote:

tkf wrote:

joec32033 wrote:I called this ending on the time out after the Chandler free throws. Their star will put them up and our star is gonna miss. How the hell does our guy get shown up by a guy that missed a year. The guy with the blown up knee makes an aggressive move to the basket while our guy jab steps a 22 foot 3 when we only need one point. See that look on Melo's face after the miss? That was him wondering about free agency. I feel like I am so done with this guy. All his big talk and bluster and it feels like the guy never comes through.
I thought when he came here he was touted as one of the BEST post up players in the league. He hasn't posted up in 3 freakin' years. Don't you think there is no time better to post up than down by one with 5 seconds to go and you have been shooting like **** the entire game.
How the hell can I be frustrated 2 games into a season you ask? Because it feels like last season. Our guy can take any team in the league as long as they aren't good. Then he comes up short 95% of the time. Kobe can call the guy whatever he wants. Melo aint a closer, and star players who don't possess closer qualities aren't true max players.

you make some good points, but being a closer is more than just scoring... and carmelo is just a scorer... He tends to take bad shots and that is not good for a so called closer... but in fairness rose took a shot with a degree of difficulty that I haven't seen in years.. he can make those, but that isn't a good shot either.... As I said, I rather have efficient players, so the game doesn't have to come come down to one shot.. both carmelo and rose were bricking..

He took the Anthony Carter type shot.

LOL true, but rose seems to make those.. often

holfresh wrote:Where were u last two Aprils when Melo won NBA player of the month..When he closed out game after game ??..Just started watching today??

Those two months don't mean much when he is unable to do it in May and June.

joec32033 wrote:I called this ending on the time out after the Chandler free throws. Their star will put them up and our star is gonna miss. How the hell does our guy get shown up by a guy that missed a year. The guy with the blown up knee makes an aggressive move to the basket while our guy jab steps a 22 foot 3 when we only need one point. See that look on Melo's face after the miss? That was him wondering about free agency. I feel like I am so done with this guy. All his big talk and bluster and it feels like the guy never comes through.
I thought when he came here he was touted as one of the BEST post up players in the league. He hasn't posted up in 3 freakin' years. Don't you think there is no time better to post up than down by one with 5 seconds to go and you have been shooting like **** the entire game.
How the hell can I be frustrated 2 games into a season you ask? Because it feels like last season. Our guy can take any team in the league as long as they aren't good. Then he comes up short 95% of the time. Kobe can call the guy whatever he wants. Melo aint a closer, and star players who don't possess closer qualities aren't true max players.

Tonight he wasn't but his resume says other wise. Melo is a closer, but he needs to learn to incorporate his teammates a little more in order to win more games. I still think that this is the most Talented Melo has played on. Also, remember! J.R Smith was playing tonight. I think we should win at least 55 games.

That last shot he took needed to go the basket hard almost hell bent put the pressure on the Bulls and the refs a jumper in that situation only bailed the Bulls and Refs out.

tkf wrote:

Vmart wrote:The problem with Melo runs deeper than that last shot. Melo is a very talented basketball player who has the ability to elevate his game to a higher level. He has done this and can do this again but he has to want it badly and I personally believe he doesn't want it bad enough. How does a player start a game out making 4out of 5 shots and then goes on a streak of 6-8 straight misses. It's not the misses that bothers me as much as it is the indifference of shot selection. Most great players miss 2 or 3 straight jumpers and the next time they touch the ball they are hell bent on getting to the basket and score or get fouled. But Melo is all to content doing the same again and again settling for a jumper.

That last shot he took needed to go the basket hard almost hell bent put the pressure on the Bulls and the refs a jumper in that situation only bailed the Bulls and Refs out.

No real answer for that except that is what you get when you are a streak scorer..... carmelo is a streak scorer, which is why I never considered him as great of a scorer as many label him as..

I have no idea who gave him that label it might have been some marketing guy from NBA or Nike but he isn't the best at scoring. Melo isn't consistent with it that is for sure if he is taking 24 shots to get 22 points.

joec32033 wrote:

holfresh wrote:Where were u last two Aprils when Melo won NBA player of the month..When he closed out game after game ??..Just started watching today??

Yea. Just started watching literally tonight. What a dumb ignorant ****ing comment. Stupid comments like that is why I rarely post here anymore. instead of discussion, you get insulted. It was SO much better back in the day.

Either way, the last two Aprils when he was player of the month....How did he do in May? Better yet, how about June? Oh, he wasn't playing in June? My bad.

Let's get serious here. Carmelo is one of the transcendent offensive players of his time. I actually mean that. At least during his time in Denver. In NY he has turned into a NON-presence in the post, a 6-8, 250 pound jump shooter. When was the last time we saw one of those strong spinning drives to the basket he was famous for in Denver?

Being a closer and being a high volume scorer are two totally different things. Kobe=closer. Jordan=closer. Wade=closer. Durant=closer. Joe Johnson=scorer. Dominique Wilkins=scorer. Mitch Richmond=scorer. Vince Carter=scorer. Carmelo Anthony=scorer.

Bernard King = CLOSER. A much better version of Melo, a pure scorer, but efficient, with killer instincts.

Just have to get it out - I wish Melo would not shoot jumpers when he is great at driving. Crazy shot by Rose and not expecting Melo to do the same, but being down 1, go for 2 or at least drawing the foul. Melo, even though he hits those jump shots at an ok clip, has to play smarter. He is our leader and needs to play physical when it matters, especially if he was having a rough shooting 4th.

I think I would rather have had Wolters on this team than Beno as the 3rd string PG, but Woodson...

Amazing to see Hardaway getting minutes, even with JR out. Kid has a sweet shot, but would like to see the % stay up consistently (though he hit a big one when it counted).
Nice to see Bargs play like he can.

Anyway, we are sure missing JR, though Felton is playing great in his absence. We might really be ok. Hope Hardaway still finds some minutes.