IronWillGiroud wrote:brosef,

"these people" are JUST LIKE YOU AND ME, they **** they piss and most importantly: they are subject to the same imperfections as us,

you ever hear phrase: "always assume stupidity before malice"?

look man, there will always be side effects to any action,

you walk, you kill bug; you have unlimited resource, you might inconvenience a few regular people,

you're not that valuable playa, no one here is, no one is out to get us.

I wish I could still be as trusting as you. In light of all the historical inaccuracies/lies that have been propagated through the years and the blatant aggressions taking place against the general public, I don't know how you can still buy the company line. I agree with Carlin 100%.

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there is some name for this fallacy that i see,

when oneself thinks he is very important when in reality not very important, so it results in a warped view where oneself sees one's self on equal footing going toe to toe with a minority of genuinely important people.

this is all cosmos/unicorns/game theory/aliens/and bell curves/ all very complicated things above my head,

but it means that there is a general mass and then a portion of the cake that is truly differentiated,

we you and me and everyone here we are not so important, or rather the chances are stacked against anyone here being truly important,

and when one sees own value as irrationally high, this leads to feelings of exagerate self importance,

when in reality it is most realistic and practical for majority of human beings to fall in line and enjoy spinning in the cogs

george carlin is lampooning general condition for entertainment,

george carlin cannot be taken seriously,

george carlin is enjoying spinning in the cog a lot more than you are.

if you have one, learn to love it more,

do not worry about the business of kings.

Nalod wrote:George is pandering to his audience who pays admission.

Its good entertainment but lets not call it "New world order" and "Illuminati".

Greed has been around since day one. If you have "smaller gov't", you'll have bigger business. Econimically thats a good thing, but it creates more inequity.

Look across the planet and find a better system? There is a delicate balance and it tilts no doubt, but when hasn't it? Whats teh alternavtive?

there is no better system in history of universe, which is why it boggles my brains that it would be so harshly attacked,

never before in the history of man has a regular guy been able to live this well,

and that's good for everyone.

IronWillGiroud wrote:this is why those that fall out of the cog are dangerous:

if you're not spinning the wheel,

and you're not in the cogs,

you can fly in any direction and potentially turn against the wagon,

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the world is rich in stimulation for every level of cog participants, and you can live with insane comfortable and satisfying life if you do not resist the truth.

A well paid slave is nonetheless a slave. I suppose that some aren't satisfied to accept the status quo because of an iPad.

Nalod wrote:George is pandering to his audience who pays admission.

Its good entertainment but lets not call it "New world order" and "Illuminati".

Greed has been around since day one. If you have "smaller gov't", you'll have bigger business. Econimically thats a good thing, but it creates more inequity.

Look across the planet and find a better system? There is a delicate balance and it tilts no doubt, but when hasn't it? Whats teh alternavtive?

I largely agree with you but the "look across the planet and find a better system" argument is moot IMO. Carlin isn't arguing against capitalism, he is arguing against unfettered capitalism; which is a HUGE difference.

I personally think that capitalism is the best way to fashion an economy because it leverages a central element of the human character: greed. The problem is that if it is not properly regulated, as is the case today, it can destroy a society. What's happening right now is that the wealthy is leveraging public assets/resources to further their own wealth to the detriment of everyone else. Considering that the gap between classes is widening, with power being monopolized by an ever-shrinking few, the system begins resembling more of an oligarchy. This is not the intended effect of a healthy capitalist society; just look at Western Europe. What is happening in this system runs counter to the ideals that our country was founded on and counter the the reality for most industrialized nations.

Please stay on your meds!!!!!
1:08 seconds to figure out what crap that is.

NardDogNation wrote:

Nalod wrote:and you were doing so well there for a while!!!

Please stay on your meds!!!!!
1:08 seconds to figure out what crap that is.

I hung around until 1:44 to arrive at the same conclusion. Its stupid **** like that that deters from the real conversation that is needed.

Its not a conversation with Playa. He is not well read or educated in many areas which is why he is gullible to many of these concepts.

Greed and corruption has been around since the beginning of time.