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holfresh
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10/30/2013  3:58 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9901641/patrick-beverley-houston-rockets-set-start-jeremy-lin-opening-night

Patrick Beverley -- not Jeremy Lin -- will be on the floor when the revamped Houston Rockets tip off their season Wednesday.

After coach Kevin McHale declined to reveal his opening-night starters, forward Chandler Parsons told reporters that Houston's lineup would include Beverley instead of Lin.

For his part, Lin downplayed the situation.

"I have known for a while so it is not really a surprise for me," Lin said, according to the Houston Chronicle. "I think for me, I am just focused on basketball. You know, I need to control what I do when I am out there, like I said. I feel like I am beating a dead horse with some of the things I'm saying."

Lin said minutes mean more than starting.

"Last year, I started and there were games where I didn't play much," he said, according to the Chronicle. "I might play the first six minutes of each half and that was it. You have to look at the game as a whole, like how many minutes you play and what you do when you are on the floor. So for me, it is not that big of a deal for me being in the second unit and being able to attack and have that freedom to be able to be freelancing a bit. I think that will be fun."

Parsons had let the cat out of the bag Tuesday. "Did [McHale] not tell you guys who is starting? I don't know why it is a big surprise," he said, according to the newspaper.

Beverley, who spent parts of five years playing overseas before joining Houston last season, outplayed Lin throughout the preseason, drawing rave reviews from Rockets coaches and the local media.

McHale, who proclaimed during the preseason that Houston has "two starting point guards," has said he would not disclose his opening-night starting lineup until Wednesday evening, hours before the Rockets play the Charlotte Bobcats.

"I haven't had the fortune to play in the NBA on opening night," Beverley said, according to the Chronicle. "This will be my first one. I am definitely excited."

Lin said earlier this week that he "would love to start" but that he will accept a lesser role.

Lin and Beverley were on different trajectories last season.

After averaging 13.4 points, 6.1 assists and 3.0 rebounds per game in the regular season, Lin slumped to 4.0 points, 2.0 assists and 2.0 rebounds in the playoffs. Beverley went from 5.6 points, 2.7 rebounds and 2.9 assists in the regular season to 11.8 points, 5.5 rebounds and 2.8 assists in the postseason.

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10/30/2013  4:04 PM
good. Lin showed Houston all they needed to see in April. He had an ouchie on his chest and sat out because of a boo-boo. Westbrook ate his breakfast, lunch, snacks, AND dinner in Game 1. Beverly has more heart and plays harder. Lin is a spineless *****.
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10/30/2013  4:11 PM
I think it's a good move. I really like Beverley's game.
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10/30/2013  4:19 PM
Beverly is good. He would start here too. Morey has a lot of great finds. He knows what he's doing.
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10/30/2013  4:19 PM
lakers need to trade for lin, he would absolutely thrive there like a filthy animal
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10/30/2013  4:23 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Beverly is good. He would start here too. Morey has a lot of great finds. He knows what he's doing.

He also gave Lin and Asik close to 50 mil...

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10/30/2013  4:25 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/30/2013  4:25 PM
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Beverly is good. He would start here too. Morey has a lot of great finds. He knows what he's doing.

He also gave Lin and Asik close to 50 mil...


Sure, over 6 years. When that's your worst mistake, you're doing well
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10/30/2013  4:25 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Beverly is good. He would start here too. Morey has a lot of great finds. He knows what he's doing.

I doubt it. They can get away with it because Harden is really their starting point guard.

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10/30/2013  4:26 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Beverly is good. He would start here too. Morey has a lot of great finds. He knows what he's doing.

He also gave Lin and Asik close to 50 mil...


Sure, over 6 years. When that's your worst mistake, you're doing well

No mention of Royce White I see...

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10/30/2013  4:27 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Beverly is good. He would start here too. Morey has a lot of great finds. He knows what he's doing.

He also gave Lin and Asik close to 50 mil...


Sure, over 6 years. When that's your worst mistake, you're doing well

OKC gave him a gift and he got lucky Dwight malfunctioned in LA...

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10/30/2013  4:28 PM
mchale didn't like lowry. then didn't like dragic. now doesn't like lin.

pg's and mchale do not mix.

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10/30/2013  4:29 PM
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Beverly is good. He would start here too. Morey has a lot of great finds. He knows what he's doing.

He also gave Lin and Asik close to 50 mil...


Sure, over 6 years. When that's your worst mistake, you're doing well

OKC gave him a gift and he got lucky Dwight malfunctioned in LA...


He's lucky to be ahead of his time in terms of talent evaluation - in that sense it is luck. Take a look at how absurd most people here thought it was to give Harden a seven figure per year salary, though, at the time. I wish we had that search function. I don't remember if it was you or someone else who started the thread on how absurd the contract was.
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10/30/2013  4:34 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Beverly is good. He would start here too. Morey has a lot of great finds. He knows what he's doing.

He also gave Lin and Asik close to 50 mil...


Sure, over 6 years. When that's your worst mistake, you're doing well

OKC gave him a gift and he got lucky Dwight malfunctioned in LA...


He's lucky to be ahead of his time in terms of talent evaluation - in that sense it is luck. Take a look at how absurd most people here thought it was to give Harden a seven figure per year salary, though, at the time. I wish we had that search function. I don't remember if it was you or someone else who started the thread on how absurd the contract was.

Yeah, you were the first one to talk about how shocked you were by Morey's thinking:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=43116&page=1

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10/30/2013  4:35 PM
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Beverly is good. He would start here too. Morey has a lot of great finds. He knows what he's doing.

He also gave Lin and Asik close to 50 mil...


Sure, over 6 years. When that's your worst mistake, you're doing well

OKC gave him a gift and he got lucky Dwight malfunctioned in LA...

Stern gave him a better gift when he rescinded the 3-team Chris Paul trade that would have sent Pau Gasol to the Rockets. That would also sent Kevin Martin to the Hornets which would have probably taken them out of the Harden sweepstakes. Speaking of the Harden trade, OKC should have taken the Beal deal. Anyway, Morey done some good things but it all depends where the team is over the next 2-3 yrs.

I like him because he drafted Parsons.

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10/30/2013  4:35 PM
Lin is a good 2nd unit change of pace PG.
I don't foresee him going the way of Tebow.
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10/30/2013  4:36 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/30/2013  4:38 PM
And Chuckbuck's insightful analysis of Harden's "awful" $16 mil per yr salary:
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10/31/2012 3:52 PM

That is awful.

They better hope Bynum or Howard ends up there in the offseason, or it's awful signing.

Morey is beyond terrible as a GM and talent evaluator.

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10/30/2013  4:37 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Beverly is good. He would start here too. Morey has a lot of great finds. He knows what he's doing.

He also gave Lin and Asik close to 50 mil...


Sure, over 6 years. When that's your worst mistake, you're doing well

OKC gave him a gift and he got lucky Dwight malfunctioned in LA...

Stern gave him a better gift when he rescinded the 3-team Chris Paul trade that would have sent Pau Gasol to the Rockets. That would also sent Kevin Martin to the Hornets which would have probably taken them out of the Harden sweepstakes. Speaking of the Harden trade, OKC should have taken the Beal deal. Anyway, Morey done some good things but it all depends where the team is over the next 2-3 yrs.

I like him because he drafted Parsons.


There's always some luck - of course. We lucked out with the birds' rights case and the gift of the amnesty clause, although we blew those decisions anyway. I doubt Kevin Martin was unreplaceable in terms of making the deal though. He's no superstar. Maybe a 3rd team would have to have gotten involved.
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10/30/2013  4:40 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:And Chuckbuck's insightful analysis of the Harden contract:
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10/31/2012 3:52 PM

That is awful.

They better hope Bynum or Howard ends up there in the offseason, or it's awful signing.

Morey is beyond terrible as a GM and talent evaluator.

There weren't awful, but they weren't great either. Harden put up numbers, but last I checked they didn't win 50 games or more. Royce White drafting was a disaster. Lin so far is a bust signing. Both Lin and Asik will be rotting their $8mill/year asses on the bench. I called Rockets going after Howard hard to make their roster complete.

Game set match, Chuckbuck, Bonn!

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10/30/2013  4:44 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Beverly is good. He would start here too. Morey has a lot of great finds. He knows what he's doing.

He also gave Lin and Asik close to 50 mil...


Sure, over 6 years. When that's your worst mistake, you're doing well

OKC gave him a gift and he got lucky Dwight malfunctioned in LA...

Stern gave him a better gift when he rescinded the 3-team Chris Paul trade that would have sent Pau Gasol to the Rockets. That would also sent Kevin Martin to the Hornets which would have probably taken them out of the Harden sweepstakes. Speaking of the Harden trade, OKC should have taken the Beal deal. Anyway, Morey done some good things but it all depends where the team is over the next 2-3 yrs.

I like him because he drafted Parsons.


There's always some luck - of course. We lucked out with the birds' rights case and the gift of the amnesty clause, although we blew those decisions anyway. I doubt Kevin Martin was unreplaceable in terms of making the deal though. He's no superstar. Maybe a 3rd team would have to have gotten involved.

Wasn't it a S&T? I could be mistaken but anyway in the 3way trade they were including Dragic, Scola, and Martin. I guess they could turn around and trade Gasol but I doubt that would have happen since Gasol is a PF McHale would love. Like you said sometimes things just work out. I do think every year is an evaluation. What looks like a good move now may look like a terrible move later or it could work out.

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10/30/2013  5:34 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Beverly is good. He would start here too. Morey has a lot of great finds. He knows what he's doing.

He also gave Lin and Asik close to 50 mil...


Sure, over 6 years. When that's your worst mistake, you're doing well

OKC gave him a gift and he got lucky Dwight malfunctioned in LA...


He's lucky to be ahead of his time in terms of talent evaluation - in that sense it is luck. Take a look at how absurd most people here thought it was to give Harden a seven figure per year salary, though, at the time. I wish we had that search function. I don't remember if it was you or someone else who started the thread on how absurd the contract was.

Yeah, you were the first one to talk about how shocked you were by Morey's thinking:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=43116&page=1

I guess when Lin walks in the door claiming to be there to be the leader, you do anything to right that ship...The contract size was a bigger surprise than the pieces traded for him...

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