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knicks1248
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7/21/2013  7:54 PM
AT first I didn't even pay attention to the SAS vid with him telling Howard about dolans displeasure with shumps summer league play (or lack there of) but driving home today, I could totally understand his fustration. He really doesn't want to play pg, and your biggest moves this off season was resigning JR and drafting another sg who they plan on playing, and 2 SF who are going to see big minutes

Word is coming out that JR will be in the starting line up this season as Melo's 2nd scorer, and artest and bargi will play mostly the 3 which doesn't leave 27mins pg for shump (your best defender) even if JR comes off the bench, which is usually mid way thru the 1st qtr, shumps minutes will be sporadic at best..

This kid is as good as gone unless THJ turns out to be suspect. Every move they made so far is hindering Shumps developement...

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7/21/2013  8:23 PM
knicks1248 wrote:AT first I didn't even pay attention to the SAS vid with him telling Howard about dolans displeasure with shumps summer league play (or lack there of) but driving home today, I could totally understand his fustration. He really doesn't want to play pg, and your biggest moves this off season was resigning JR and drafting another sg who they plan on playing, and 2 SF who are going to see big minutes

Word is coming out that JR will be in the starting line up this season as Melo's 2nd scorer, and artest and bargi will play mostly the 3 which doesn't leave 27mins pg for shump (your best defender) even if JR comes off the bench, which is usually mid way thru the 1st qtr, shumps minutes will be sporadic at best..

This kid is as good as gone unless THJ turns out to be suspect. Every move they made so far is hindering Shumps developement...

I dont mind if he gets traded as long as we get good value back for him. If we get a young PG back that can play then cool. If we do something stupid like trade him in a package for Nash I will get pissed

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7/21/2013  8:35 PM
Iman Shumpert ‏@I_Am_Iman 1h
Can we please DEAD these dumb ass rumors! I love my team as well as the new additions. I wanna win! #thatisall
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7/21/2013  8:52 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Iman Shumpert ‏@I_Am_Iman 1h
Can we please DEAD these dumb ass rumors! I love my team as well as the new additions. I wanna win! #thatisall
-Iman Shumpert
Shumpert isnt the problem. Dolan is the problem. Dolan is the dumbest owner i have ever seen
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7/21/2013  9:08 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Iman Shumpert ‏@I_Am_Iman 1h
Can we please DEAD these dumb ass rumors! I love my team as well as the new additions. I wanna win! #thatisall
-Iman Shumpert

thats good to know, but i still think he is expendable..

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7/21/2013  9:23 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Iman Shumpert ‏@I_Am_Iman 1h
Can we please DEAD these dumb ass rumors! I love my team as well as the new additions. I wanna win! #thatisall
-Iman Shumpert
Shumpert isnt the problem. Dolan is the problem. Dolan is the dumbest owner i have ever seen
Has anyone actually heard Dolan say that he wants to trade Shump? SAS backed off his statement and said he didn't think Dolan felt that way anymore. SAS has stood behind his sources in the past and not backed down. I think he got caught in a spot on video saying hearsay and backed off.
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7/21/2013  9:37 PM
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StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Iman Shumpert ‏@I_Am_Iman 1h
Can we please DEAD these dumb ass rumors! I love my team as well as the new additions. I wanna win! #thatisall
-Iman Shumpert
Shumpert isnt the problem. Dolan is the problem. Dolan is the dumbest owner i have ever seen
Has anyone actually heard Dolan say that he wants to trade Shump? SAS backed off his statement and said he didn't think Dolan felt that way anymore. SAS has stood behind his sources in the past and not backed down. I think he got caught in a spot on video saying hearsay and backed off.
Doesnt matter Dolan has shown many times that he is an idiot. even the most loyal knick fans agree
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7/21/2013  9:57 PM
This is just media spin...Shumps first experience with it. He's got to chill.

Truth is he is hot and signs do point to him being traded simply because he's the knicks best chip and we have his position covered already. We can speculate all we want just like he can make all the money he wants traveling representing the nba and Adidas. Good players come and go. I think everyone put too much value in players and not enough on the team. It's about the championship not the bro love.

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7/21/2013  9:57 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Iman Shumpert ‏@I_Am_Iman 1h
Can we please DEAD these dumb ass rumors! I love my team as well as the new additions. I wanna win! #thatisall
-Iman Shumpert
Shumpert isnt the problem. Dolan is the problem. Dolan is the dumbest owner i have ever seen
Has anyone actually heard Dolan say that he wants to trade Shump? SAS backed off his statement and said he didn't think Dolan felt that way anymore. SAS has stood behind his sources in the past and not backed down. I think he got caught in a spot on video saying hearsay and backed off.
Doesnt matter Dolan has shown many times that he is an idiot. even the most loyal knick fans agree
Making mistakes, doing dumb things and reacting emotionally are all things that he has done in the past. However, I am not sure that he ever said he wants Shump traded and SAS said, 'he no longer feels that way.' Is this SAS covering up a mistake about a conversation that he thought he was having off camera or is he buddies with Dolan and that his how he gets his info? I just don't think you need to look for a villain for a situation you are speculating might happen.
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7/21/2013  10:21 PM
if the knicks think THJ and JR Bad Knees somehow free us up to let go of Shump, they go another thing comin
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7/21/2013  11:17 PM
Shump may be my favorite Knick but there is so much drama around him. 2 years ago rumours surfaced he didn't want to play SF. Now we got these rumours. I am not passing any blame to anyone because the stuff we hear is all over the place, but when is the question gonna change from will the Knicks deal Shumpert to should the Knicks deal Shumpert? One thing they have to look at is long range. Will Shumpert resign here after next year if he really is this unhappy? Is management really that unhappy with him?

Idk...I like Shump and I dont believe all the talk but where there is smoke there is usually fire.

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7/21/2013  11:18 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Iman Shumpert ‏@I_Am_Iman 1h
Can we please DEAD these dumb ass rumors! I love my team as well as the new additions. I wanna win! #thatisall
-Iman Shumpert

that's cool and all but it has nothing to do with him and he has no choice in the matter,

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7/21/2013  11:22 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Iman Shumpert ‏@I_Am_Iman 1h
Can we please DEAD these dumb ass rumors! I love my team as well as the new additions. I wanna win! #thatisall
-Iman Shumpert
Shumpert isnt the problem. Dolan is the problem. Dolan is the dumbest owner i have ever seen
Has anyone actually heard Dolan say that he wants to trade Shump? SAS backed off his statement and said he didn't think Dolan felt that way anymore. SAS has stood behind his sources in the past and not backed down. I think he got caught in a spot on video saying hearsay and backed off.
Doesnt matter Dolan has shown many times that he is an idiot. even the most loyal knick fans agree
Making mistakes, doing dumb things and reacting emotionally are all things that he has done in the past. However, I am not sure that he ever said he wants Shump traded and SAS said, 'he no longer feels that way.' Is this SAS covering up a mistake about a conversation that he thought he was having off camera or is he buddies with Dolan and that his how he gets his info? I just don't think you need to look for a villain for a situation you are speculating might happen.
Well first off i never said i believed these rumors of shumpert being traded. im just talking about dolan in general
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7/21/2013  11:28 PM
This is such a non story it's not even funny. Shump is just minding his business and the media has run with all this drama which is totally unfounded as far as we know. Shump LOVES being a knick and has done nothing to suggest that he doesn't love being here. Every few months the media puts Shumps name out there as a trade pawn. It's a media pastime to try and stir up trouble with the Knicks. They tried to stir up issues with Melo and STAT.
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7/22/2013  12:14 AM
nixluva wrote:This is such a non story it's not even funny. Shump is just minding his business and the media has run with all this drama which is totally unfounded as far as we know. Shump LOVES being a knick and has done nothing to suggest that he doesn't love being here. Every few months the media puts Shumps name out there as a trade pawn. It's a media pastime to try and stir up trouble with the Knicks. They tried to stir up issues with Melo and STAT.

We have 3 shooting guards and 3 sf, you need a pg, and a big, you have no $ and he's one of you best trading chip.. This is not just stirring up a story..

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7/22/2013  12:36 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:This is such a non story it's not even funny. Shump is just minding his business and the media has run with all this drama which is totally unfounded as far as we know. Shump LOVES being a knick and has done nothing to suggest that he doesn't love being here. Every few months the media puts Shumps name out there as a trade pawn. It's a media pastime to try and stir up trouble with the Knicks. They tried to stir up issues with Melo and STAT.

We have 3 shooting guards and 3 sf, you need a pg, and a big, you have no $ and he's one of you best trading chip.. This is not just stirring up a story..

You are speculating based on something that SAS refuted and Isola who is using the statement SAS refuted. Could Shump be traded? Absolutely. Is Dolan involved and looking to dump him? According to SAS no. Isola can be like chicken little and every once in a while he gets it right. Shump does have value and has a reasonable contract so his name always will come up on a team that has max guys and league mini guys.
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7/22/2013  3:29 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/22/2013  3:38 AM
This is such a made up story, it's hilarious. Shump was running his bball camp for kids immediately before vegas,looked genuinely pleased with Bargs in an interview, then after playing flew immediately to China. He's been there all this time. When exactly did he speak about his displeasure to Isola of all people?! And what moves does he disaprove of?! Losing Camby? He liked Cope and Novak, but he'll like playing with MWP, and he likes JR so he'll be happy he's back. This is a joke of a made up story- here's the truth:

Isola MADE IT ALL UP in his post JR smith op rage! SAS made up his discussion with Dolan (Ha- like media aversive idiot Dolan, would just hang out and tell SAS about wanting to trade Shump)- he heard from someone who heard from someone- a made up rumor. Guess people believe what they want to believe...

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7/22/2013  7:01 AM
knicks1248 wrote:AT first I didn't even pay attention to the SAS vid with him telling Howard about dolans displeasure with shumps summer league play (or lack there of) but driving home today, I could totally understand his fustration. He really doesn't want to play pg, and your biggest moves this off season was resigning JR and drafting another sg who they plan on playing, and 2 SF who are going to see big minutes

Word is coming out that JR will be in the starting line up this season as Melo's 2nd scorer, and artest and bargi will play mostly the 3 which doesn't leave 27mins pg for shump (your best defender) even if JR comes off the bench, which is usually mid way thru the 1st qtr, shumps minutes will be sporadic at best..

This kid is as good as gone unless THJ turns out to be suspect. Every move they made so far is hindering Shumps developement...

That is odd considering the statement his agent made at seasons end. Said that Shump was unhappy being forced to play small forward when he should be playing the 2guard spot with spot minutes at the point.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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7/22/2013  7:02 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Iman Shumpert ‏@I_Am_Iman 1h
Can we please DEAD these dumb ass rumors! I love my team as well as the new additions. I wanna win! #thatisall
-Iman Shumpert
Shumpert isnt the problem. Dolan is the problem. Dolan is the dumbest owner i have ever seen
Has anyone actually heard Dolan say that he wants to trade Shump? SAS backed off his statement and said he didn't think Dolan felt that way anymore. SAS has stood behind his sources in the past and not backed down. I think he got caught in a spot on video saying hearsay and backed off.

no because only negative speculation is relevant too so many here.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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7/22/2013  9:36 AM
Dolan is a petty man who holds grudges.

Isola is the victom of MSG propoganda machine and holds a grudge.

Shump might have done more than we know to piss the little dictator off.

Remember, Larry Brown had to meet the press on the side of the highway. Remember the petty antics that MSG tried to rid themselves of Larry. (Not saying he was deserving of being fired, just a comment on how MSG does things).

So in my book there is really nothing to talk about because you only get to see what they want you to see/read/hear and not much more.

Shump not happy when he plays the 3, and when they want him to work on his handle he made other plans. Take the middle road, he should have cleared his schedule for the two weeks to work out and be at summerleague, but its not the end of the road.

Only other thing is the hair do is a bit "look at me" and there is nothing wrong with a young man expressing himself until you start carving sponsers (Adida's) in your hair. It might be Dolan don't like players trying to not be team oriented. Shump might have been warned as well before doing it.

Just my take and speculation from:

What I have read in past
MSG propoganda tactics
and just pure opinion.

If Dolan wants "Jordan Lite" out of here he is gone.

I guess shump would welcome a trade at this point..

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