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Copeland > Metta

to the disappointment of a lot of knicks fans, the knicks let copekand walk (without offering the 1.7mill left in the MLE). he was a rags to riches scoring SF built like a PF. After struggling with defense, he learned to hold his own and improved as an all around player (in my opnion). Now weve replaced him with Metta World Peace aka Ron Artest. A loquacious SF built like a truck who adds toughness, basketball IQ and defense. No hes NOT the young scorer he used to be, yes hes lost a step but he will only be asked to be a role player on this team.

my question to you all is: have the knicks upgraded at the backup SF spot?

Markji wrote:

playa2 wrote:When teams score and play defense in the playoffs, we would need Copeland to help us score points. We aren't built to shut teams down, but to OUT SCORE THEM, Metta was brought here for PR purposes to make up for losing Copeland and JR's surgery.

Metta was brought here to play basketball. The PR part - to give the Knicks some headlines - in a justifiable way. Nothing wrong with that.
And for playing bball on the court, Metta outplays AK47.

BUAHAHAHAHA METTA OUTPLAYS AK47??!?!/ BUAHAHAHA OMFG ARE YOU SERIOUS OMFG NO WAY BRO

no way

that comment is an insult to basketball gods

gunsnewing wrote:I've heard from some lakers fans that are glad he is gone. His play has really diminished they say. He still has a ton of games where he puts up 13+ shots and doesn't even finish with 20pts. If Artesst focuses on doing the little things to win then I can work. Problem I see is Woodson is going to over rely on him like he did with Kidd. Stunting the development of younger players then Artest is gonna go down and these young players will look like deer in the headlights again in the playoffs

"I don't care if I'm starting, or sweeping the floors. You hear me? I want to win"

Rest easy Guns...he knows he's a glue guy at this point in his career.

gunsnewing wrote:I've heard from some lakers fans that are glad he is gone. His play has really diminished they say. He still has a ton of games where he puts up 13+ shots and doesn't even finish with 20pts. If Artesst focuses on doing the little things to win then I can work. Problem I see is Woodson is going to over rely on him like he did with Kidd. Stunting the development of younger players then Artest is gonna go down and these young players will look like deer in the headlights again in the playoffs

Many of us, judge by names, past performances, and qualities of the the player
By those standards, it was a great pickup, but Artest, wasn't even the same player in his 1st season as a Laker

Now, years later, he is much slower (affecting both ends of his game but especially DEF), looks lost on the court, and inconsistent with rebounds and 3pters.
HE IS an ENERGY GUY, and NO ONE CAN GIvE HIM AS MUCH ENERGY as NYC/THE GARDEN, it worked great for Lin, Novak (1st year),Wallace, and Martin, who all became fan favorites
I think he is very comparable to Kidd, where coach will expect him too much for him, over use him, because he "likes" Artest's personal qualities and will stroke his ego like JR (with him injured)
In return, the effort would ALWAYS be there by Artest, but somewhere during the next couple of weeks, when age catches back up with him, he will struggle with the team

Iman has a F that he can count on at all times,
Martin would be a great pickup back because he is a mobile/shot blocking 4/5 that would play well together
Add Tourre in that max

Murry
Iman
Metta
Martin

Could go with Melo at PF on OFF and SF on DEF or Barg's *less ball handlers if so* at PF/C

It is apples and oranges like saying Felton or Martin

but

if I had to pick, I would say Copeland but like NIX says, coach just didn't like him....