Would Shump alone even do it?

Guy is coming off of ACL, how to you value a kid like this? I see him as a talented but a head case.

1) There were reports that GS and a couple other teams had offers out for Bargs
2) Even if the prior wasn't true, than the Raptors would have amnestied him on Day 1, which would've exposed him to a bidding process where some other team would've signed him to a bigger deal than we could've offered because of our lack of cap space.

If we really wanted him, we had to act prior the official opening of free agency to make sure we got him.

VDesai wrote:The Knicks couldnt have waited on the Barg trade for two reasons:

1) There were reports that GS and a couple other teams had offers out for Bargs
2) Even if the prior wasn't true, than the Raptors would have amnestied him on Day 1, which would've exposed him to a bidding process where some other team would've signed him to a bigger deal than we could've offered because of our lack of cap space.

If we really wanted him, we had to act prior the official opening of free agency to make sure we got him.

That was Masai duping the most interested team in giving up picks for his trash. He did this to us with the New Jersey bs...so there's no way I'm buying that.

You say to Masai we'll give up some picks but you're gonna have to wait until the moratorium passes before we make a final decision. Masai would have waited while at the same continuing to increase the perceived value of his asset.

Let's say Masai decides to make a different deal, in what way, form, or fashion does it hurt us if we're still willing to move Camby/Novak/3 picks for other available players?

I really get sick and tired of the mindset that deal we made was..THE ONLY OPTION OR DEAL WE COULD MAKE!!!! Please let's get to the day when we're operating from a position of strength instead of vulnerability, otherwise this crap is never gonna end.

VDesai wrote:Still doesn't address point 2- Masai doesn't get a deal together and he amnesties Bargnani so he can sign another player in FA (the way the Bobcats did with Tyrus/Jefferson).

He wouldn't have Amnestied him as long as he knows he can get a deal done with us and you communicate that consistently to him. Raps are not in the position to sign anyone of any significance Bobcats style...their cap is right at the Tax. Which does lend to the fact Amnesty may have been on the horizon for Bargs but not if Masai knows he has a deal, the guy is not a stupid GM by any means, one of the wisest minds in the biz right now.

He did what Calengelo couldn't do in 3yrs in a couple weeks, found a sucker in us.

djsunyc wrote:bargs was not getting amnestied.

Thanks I wasn't buying it myself dj just if thought concerns started to grow over their financial situation(from VDesai's post) then it was reasonable to believe he could be a candidate. The primary and ultimate goal was to trade him for the best deal and Masai would have waited. He's proven there, in particular with us on the Melo deal.

tkf wrote:as Berman said, we have nothing to offer Boston and I am sure Boston doesn't want rondo still in their division..

I wonder how felton feels about his teamate openly campaigning for another player to take his spot...

Where's the direct quote of Melo asking for Rondo?

Uptown wrote:

tkf wrote:as Berman said, we have nothing to offer Boston and I am sure Boston doesn't want rondo still in their division..

I wonder how felton feels about his teamate openly campaigning for another player to take his spot...

Where's the direct quote of Melo asking for Rondo?

Ahhh we don't want to believe Melo would want a player of Rondo's caliber on this squad and that he told someone close to him this.... but we believed mythical stories of toasting on a yacht trying to put Super Teams together?

I think it's true and I think it's coming from none other than...his agency