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knicks1248
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6/24/2013  3:37 PM
nobody special
http://www.nba.com/history/draft/index/index.html

I had a few minutes on my hand and decided to go through the last 12 drafts and I could count on one hand the amount of impact players that have been picked 24th or below in the last 10 yrs..

I can't believe people still talk about rebuilding through the draft. Less then 40% of players drafted don't make it pass yr 5. Less then 85% of players drafted in the 2nd rnd dont last more then 3 yrs in the NBA..

I posted the web page if you don't beleive me, Our best move would be to trade up cause we really need a guy who can step in a play right away

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6/24/2013  3:44 PM
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6/24/2013  4:02 PM
Take the best available athlete if he's still there, Tony Mitchell.

If not pick for need, F/C or PG/SG.

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6/24/2013  4:07 PM
Ibaka, Battum, Dragic, Peko, Hill and Chalmers were all picked at 24 and below. Not to mention D. JOrdan and Asik. That's just in 08.


Gibson, Pondexter, Vasquez, Stephenson, Reggie Jackson, Jimmy Butler Kyle Singler Chandler Parson, Isaiah Thomas, and some other role players were all picked at 24 or below. So what do you mean by impact? All the above were since 08 and I didn't count 2012 because its early.

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6/24/2013  4:32 PM
knicks1248 wrote:nobody special
http://www.nba.com/history/draft/index/index.html

I had a few minutes on my hand and decided to go through the last 12 drafts and I could count on one hand the amount of impact players that have been picked 24th or below in the last 10 yrs..

I can't believe people still talk about rebuilding through the draft. Less then 40% of players drafted don't make it pass yr 5. Less then 85% of players drafted in the 2nd rnd dont last more then 3 yrs in the NBA..

I posted the web page if you don't beleive me, Our best move would be to trade up cause we really need a guy who can step in a play right away

So your against building through the draft, but u want to move up in the draft by trading established players for players that arent going to make it . Makes sense

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6/24/2013  4:32 PM
The 24th pick alone has actually been pretty solid. Ibake, Lowry, Delonte West are all impact players. Ibaka is a borderline all-star. Reggie Jackson, who was taken 2 years ago broke out these playoffs into what looks like a very good player that will be a starting PG in the league.
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6/24/2013  4:35 PM
David Lee was drafted 30th and averaged a double double in his second season that wouldnt help
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6/24/2013  4:35 PM
David Lee was drafted 30th and averaged a double double in his second season that wouldnt help
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6/24/2013  4:36 PM
What I look for in a pick this low is a top 8 player. Maybe that player grown into top 5 player and starter but I know he has a valuable role on this team.
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6/24/2013  6:57 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Ricardo Ledo

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6/24/2013  7:14 PM
Jmpasq wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:nobody special
http://www.nba.com/history/draft/index/index.html

I had a few minutes on my hand and decided to go through the last 12 drafts and I could count on one hand the amount of impact players that have been picked 24th or below in the last 10 yrs..

I can't believe people still talk about rebuilding through the draft. Less then 40% of players drafted don't make it pass yr 5. Less then 85% of players drafted in the 2nd rnd dont last more then 3 yrs in the NBA..

I posted the web page if you don't beleive me, Our best move would be to trade up cause we really need a guy who can step in a play right away

So your against building through the draft, but u want to move up in the draft by trading established players for players that arent going to make it . Makes sense

im saying dude, the chances of landing a impact player at 24 is rear..

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6/24/2013  7:20 PM
Knixkik wrote:The 24th pick alone has actually been pretty solid. Ibake, Lowry, Delonte West are all impact players. Ibaka is a borderline all-star. Reggie Jackson, who was taken 2 years ago broke out these playoffs into what looks like a very good player that will be a starting PG in the league.

thats basically the best 4 players over the course of 10 yrs or more..

I mean for god sake we picked Mike sweetney @ #9 and how long did he last

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6/24/2013  7:29 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:The 24th pick alone has actually been pretty solid. Ibake, Lowry, Delonte West are all impact players. Ibaka is a borderline all-star. Reggie Jackson, who was taken 2 years ago broke out these playoffs into what looks like a very good player that will be a starting PG in the league.

thats basically the best 4 players over the course of 10 yrs or more..

I mean for god sake we picked Mike sweetney @ #9 and how long did he last

Yes that's true it's very difficult to get the draft right which is why I don't like relying on the draft to build a team. That being said, we have had success in landing rotation players later in the draft so if we draft right we will land a solid rotation player and future starter.

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6/24/2013  7:31 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/24/2013  7:31 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:Take the best available athlete if he's still there, Tony Mitchell.

If not pick for need, F/C or PG/SG.

if the knicks are smart they'll get athletes to play defense and unathletic, smallish team-skill guys for offense. with such limited options you can't have both aspects in a draft pick this low. better to opt for extremes.

then it is on the coach to make it work.

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6/24/2013  11:23 PM
I am starting to think the Knicks are going Mitchell or Ledo.
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6/25/2013  7:06 AM
The best SF, or back up PG they can get
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6/25/2013  9:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/25/2013  9:39 AM
Would u guys do the trade with the Blazers to get the rights back for Kostas Papanikolaou. The Knicks offered a future 2nd but the Blazers want are 1st for a swap of the 39th pick and Pap. I might do it depending on who is on the board. Maybe we can get Colton Iverson at 39 with Pap get us 2 players that could help instead of 1. Boils down to if u think Pap is as good as the forwards we can get at 24.
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6/25/2013  10:13 AM
Jmpasq wrote:Would u guys do the trade with the Blazers to get the rights back for Kostas Papanikolaou. The Knicks offered a future 2nd but the Blazers want are 1st for a swap of the 39th pick and Pap. I might do it depending on who is on the board. Maybe we can get Colton Iverson at 39 with Pap get us 2 players that could help instead of 1. Boils down to if u think Pap is as good as the forwards we can get at 24.

Why the **** did we even trade him to begin with? To answer your question, I'd have to see who's left on the board when we draft before making that decision.

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6/25/2013  10:17 AM
Jmpasq wrote:Would u guys do the trade with the Blazers to get the rights back for Kostas Papanikolaou. The Knicks offered a future 2nd but the Blazers want are 1st for a swap of the 39th pick and Pap. I might do it depending on who is on the board. Maybe we can get Colton Iverson at 39 with Pap get us 2 players that could help instead of 1. Boils down to if u think Pap is as good as the forwards we can get at 24.

Thats like saying I sold you my camaro for 5k and Id like to buy it back for 15k 4 months later. He doesnt even want to play for Portland--let them deal from weakness and NEVER panic move like the Knicks ALWAYS do. If we donmt get him life moves on. On principle alone I would NEVER do this.

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6/25/2013  12:11 PM
Jmpasq wrote:Would u guys do the trade with the Blazers to get the rights back for Kostas Papanikolaou. The Knicks offered a future 2nd but the Blazers want are 1st for a swap of the 39th pick and Pap. I might do it depending on who is on the board. Maybe we can get Colton Iverson at 39 with Pap get us 2 players that could help instead of 1. Boils down to if u think Pap is as good as the forwards we can get at 24.

The blazers don't want him, and he doesn't want the play there..Now there trying to rape us..

Besides that, I don't know enough about him to really make a decision

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