holfresh wrote:Why would anyone want to trade for Jordan and that terrible contact..Tyson is better than Jordan...

Jordan's value is in his potential and working on his FT shooting. In today's center market it is not that bad of a contract.

In regards to Tyson: He has value around the league he just will not get you a premier player. He'd get you a 1st rounder in this draft but the problem for the Knicks is that if they trade Tyson they leave a hole at the center position unless they trade for a center but more than likely the center they trade for will not be as good as Tyson so they would need to get other players back that could improve their team overall. There are not many teams that have the assets the Knicks would want in a trade with Tyson so that's another problem.

With the Cs the Clips are in the drivers sit. The celtics waited to long to give up on the big three. They should take the two 1st and Jordan and call it a day. The Clips are really over valuing Garnett anyway by including two firsts for what would be a 1 year rental. KG is on his last legs but then again he comes with tricks of the trade that could injure some key opponents. That's just a wiley vet doing his thing.

AnubisADL wrote:

holfresh wrote:Why would anyone want to trade for Jordan and that terrible contact..Tyson is better than Jordan...

You only trade for Jordan if your getting Bledsoe back.

Jordan takes of 10 mil of cap space ...He can't be on the court at the end of games...He can only do one thing, dunk and defense isn't great considering he is zero demential...Why does every one rate Bledsoe so highly...When Paul was out, the Clippers were totally lost with Bledsoe running the O...

Taking back a scorer without getting a young center is pointless unless you get some picks in the deal. All you would be doing is plugging up one leak while another one bust through.

I'm not crazy about Jordan but give me two 1s, they can keep Bledsoe, and I'll parlay a scorer with the picks.

Anyway, another thing would be to try to take Bass off their hands if they want to shave more salary.

CLips are pushing back. The gonna get it done but Boston can't get too greedy.

NardDogNation wrote:I wanted to start a conversation about how this proposed BOS-LAC trade could affect the Knicks but didn't want to hijack 3G4G's thread and the direction it was heading in. That being said, how could we leverage such a deal to better our own situation? If the Clippers actually traded for both Pierce and Garnett, I would imagine that they'd have to give up a number of contracts; contracts that the Celtics might not want or that the Clippers would be willing to adequately compensate Boston for. Personally, I could see Willie Green and Matt Barnes (via a sign and trade) being in play for us.

On a different note, with Boston getting both Bledsoe AND Jordan, where could we theoretically move Tyson Chandler to, other than the salary dump with Portland? Many of us seem to be in agreement about the need to trade Tyson but the deal many of presumed was most feasible,now seems to be a no go.

Denver's should be a possibility as well, I'm sure they'd love to get rid of Javale McGee and his contract.

To OKC for Perkins is probably available but they'd have to blow us away with an offer to take him back.

I don't know what Ujiri's planning in Toronto but they haven't been acting like a team that's going to blow it up so they might be a possibility. Of course, any trade to Toronto would probably involve Bargnani and he's nowhere nearly enough and I doubt they can put together a good enough offer to make it worth our while.

If LAL loses Howard for nothing they'd probably be interested in Tyson but what sort of package could they put together that would interest us? Outside of Gasol their cupboard is bare.

I'm sure Washington would jump at the chance to dump Okafor and Ariza for Tyson but why the **** would we want to do that? But, at a minimum, they'd need to include Beal for me to even consider it.

yellowboy90 wrote:Another team I would add is Minnesota. They could want a defensive guy to pair up with Love. With Love back Pekovic touches will probably go down and Saunders just seems like the coach to value Tyson over Peko. Just a hunch.

Maybe. I think it would be difficult to trade a younger, probably cheaper Pekovic for Tyson when they do very similar players anyway.

y2zipper wrote:

VCoug wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:I wanted to start a conversation about how this proposed BOS-LAC trade could affect the Knicks but didn't want to hijack 3G4G's thread and the direction it was heading in. That being said, how could we leverage such a deal to better our own situation? If the Clippers actually traded for both Pierce and Garnett, I would imagine that they'd have to give up a number of contracts; contracts that the Celtics might not want or that the Clippers would be willing to adequately compensate Boston for. Personally, I could see Willie Green and Matt Barnes (via a sign and trade) being in play for us.

On a different note, with Boston getting both Bledsoe AND Jordan, where could we theoretically move Tyson Chandler to, other than the salary dump with Portland? Many of us seem to be in agreement about the need to trade Tyson but the deal many of presumed was most feasible,now seems to be a no go.

Denver's should be a possibility as well, I'm sure they'd love to get rid of Javale McGee and his contract.

To OKC for Perkins is probably available but they'd have to blow us away with an offer to take him back.

I don't know what Ujiri's planning in Toronto but they haven't been acting like a team that's going to blow it up so they might be a possibility. Of course, any trade to Toronto would probably involve Bargnani and he's nowhere nearly enough and I doubt they can put together a good enough offer to make it worth our while.

If LAL loses Howard for nothing they'd probably be interested in Tyson but what sort of package could they put together that would interest us? Outside of Gasol their cupboard is bare.

I'm sure Washington would jump at the chance to dump Okafor and Ariza for Tyson but why the **** would we want to do that? But, at a minimum, they'd need to include Beal for me to even consider it.

If the Lakers want to trade Gasol for Chandler, you take that and run.

Absolutely but why would they want to? That's a lateral move at best for them.

VCoug wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:I wanted to start a conversation about how this proposed BOS-LAC trade could affect the Knicks but didn't want to hijack 3G4G's thread and the direction it was heading in. That being said, how could we leverage such a deal to better our own situation? If the Clippers actually traded for both Pierce and Garnett, I would imagine that they'd have to give up a number of contracts; contracts that the Celtics might not want or that the Clippers would be willing to adequately compensate Boston for. Personally, I could see Willie Green and Matt Barnes (via a sign and trade) being in play for us.

On a different note, with Boston getting both Bledsoe AND Jordan, where could we theoretically move Tyson Chandler to, other than the salary dump with Portland? Many of us seem to be in agreement about the need to trade Tyson but the deal many of presumed was most feasible,now seems to be a no go.

Denver's should be a possibility as well, I'm sure they'd love to get rid of Javale McGee and his contract.

To OKC for Perkins is probably available but they'd have to blow us away with an offer to take him back.

I don't know what Ujiri's planning in Toronto but they haven't been acting like a team that's going to blow it up so they might be a possibility. Of course, any trade to Toronto would probably involve Bargnani and he's nowhere nearly enough and I doubt they can put together a good enough offer to make it worth our while.

If LAL loses Howard for nothing they'd probably be interested in Tyson but what sort of package could they put together that would interest us? Outside of Gasol their cupboard is bare.

I'm sure Washington would jump at the chance to dump Okafor and Ariza for Tyson but why the **** would we want to do that? But, at a minimum, they'd need to include Beal for me to even consider it.

I'm still on the fence about JaVale McGee. If we were to acquire him, I would only want him under certain conditions. His current pricetag and his propensity to do something stupid makes me a bit wary of adding him to a roster that has little room for error moving forward. We'd need to have at least one other capable center on the roster and another capable big next to McGee to cover for his mistakes.

I do like the idea of trading with OKC. I've never thought much of Perkin's game but if they add enough incentives, I could see the deal working. Maybe we could flip Perkins and some of them for McGee.

I could also see a deal to Toronto working. I disagree with you about the Raptors not having other interesting pieces to entice us to take Bargnani. I've had a man crush on Terrence Ross's game since he was drafted and believe that they'll suck bad enough to have a good enough pick to interest us in 2014.

I'm not too sure about the Lakers wanting Chandler. If they lose Howard, I think their main focus will be on trimming payroll now that Kobe will be out most of the upcoming season.

As for Washington, I definitely would be intrigued by an Okafor and Ariza offer if it were coupled with worthy incentives. I think Bradley Beal would be asking for too much but a future protected draft pick and Chris Singleton would peak my interest.

All in all, I think you've got some good ideas. Should be interesting to see how this offseason materializes.