My pick is Adenteknbo and with his potential/upside, it is my final pick IF he in fact is available which I think Atlanta at picks 17/18 and Cleveland at pick 19 despite his raw skills
They both could use a SF and have the time to let him develop and fill out his body

With All Stars like Lebron James/Durant/Paul George in the league, you need a player that can do his best in 1v1 situations that has the combination of mobility/size/length/athleticism/and versatility

I wonder what BJ Mullens and Copeland would even get this summer as stretch 4/5's
Mullen's doesn't have the IQ and solid POST presence that Muscula has but he has much better size/athleticism/length to go with a high potential and shooting abilities although not consistent and some injury concerns
He has the physical abilities that would allow him to be a decent rebounder and shot blocker but he needs to work on his weakness's and bring much more consistency in these areas
I think Kevin Love is just a matter of time before he leaves Twolves especially with Pepsi allowing "UNCLE DREW" and Kevin Love to team up together on the court and off the court for endorsements

Love compliments Irving's ability to penetrate/finish and Varejo who has a very cap friendly salary if he can stay healthy with his rebounding ability/hustle play/defense
I would not be surprised if Cleveland offers a combination of a huge package to Twolves for both Pekovic and Love with 4 picks in this draft at picks 1, 19, 31, 33, young players, and future draft picks
It would be tough for Twolves not to consider it if they feel Love will not stay past the 2015 season
If they can somehow still save enough salary to offer Lebron to that core, it would a very scary team that is almost impossible to defend and out rebound

While Copeland has shown he can be quite efficient on the OFFENSE, he would get much less he is a very cap friendly stretch 4/5 with decent post up abilities as a backup PF/C

BRIGGS wrote:

RonRon wrote:Troy Murphy is my comparison for Muscala and with a little bit of Splitter like Briggs has said earlier in other posts

I think hes more agile than Murphy--Murphy was a bigger guy and I think this guy has more in/out game than Murphy. I think when a 7 foot agile player like this comes into the combine and almost shoots 80%-- shooting better than any other position player--than you get a glimpse of his agility/diversity on the offensive end--you hear him speak--you hear other guys saying hes the hardest worker--you know hes a smart kid you can teach that he is 7 feet tall--you keep thinking about it and it will click--the question is does it click in the next 3 weeks to a team drafting above us? I think a good deal of the draft above us is somewhat set--we have a real chance to get his player--would even be willing to move a up a few spots if I could. Sometime speople break things down with players and than miss the obvious bottom line he is an agile 4 7 footer with deadly combination of inside and outside advanced skills for a 21 year old with room to grow a big motor and a willingness to get better and work hard. Its hard guarding an agile stretch 4 7 footer--this is a unique player and he will help us now on both ends. He immediately makes our 2nd team defense better and would allow Amare to play some 5 with help off his 4 on the D until we can get two legit C's in here down the line.

Did you just describe a young Pau Gasol?

- the knicks actually have front court depth (melo, tyson, amare, kmart and camby). i think as long as they monitor those minutes properly that should last
- sounds like theyre gonna sign gani lawal (rebounding stud) and maybe this AJ Matthews kid as a free agent
- now with Kidd gone and Prigoni most likely to leave, the knicks need a back up PG and there are plenty in this draft. one can argue to pick up one of these young PGs
- regardless of how good muscala is (and i DO agree, hell be good), woody doesnt like to play rookies - esp with the frontcourt vets we have. if hes drafted he'll rot on the bench

OVERALL = i agree guys. If this guy is available they should draft him. im just playing devils advocate. what do you think of my points? but he DOES NEED TO PUT ON WEIGHT. He wont be ready next yr..but he has potential

callmened wrote:hmmmmm? while i wouldnt mind...i have some thoughts (just to play devils advocate)

- the knicks actually have front court depth (melo, tyson, amare, kmart and camby). i think as long as they monitor those minutes properly that should last
- sounds like theyre gonna sign gani lawal (rebounding stud) and maybe this AJ Matthews kid as a free agent
- now with Kidd gone and Prigoni most likely to leave, the knicks need a back up PG and there are plenty in this draft. one can argue to pick up one of these young PGs
- regardless of how good muscala is (and i DO agree, hell be good), woody doesnt like to play rookies - esp with the frontcourt vets we have. if hes drafted he'll rot on the bench

OVERALL = i agree guys. If this guy is available they should draft him. im just playing devils advocate. what do you think of my points?

Woody is flawed in so many ways/levels and that is why I would consider one of these coaches available over him while still keeping him as an assistant if Knicks need to pay him anyway
So why build on a coach's philosophy that has shown the inability to make adjustments, favor players that do not deserve, and prepare his team for the play offs

With the comments on Iman, Tyson, and Amare, it is evident that he already loss part of his team
Unlike Dantoni, he had his opportunity to do things his way and work with Grunwald to build the team he wanted
He has loss the respect, trusts, and the mental approach of his players while they kept their mouth shut and did as he asked them to do on BOTH ENDS on OFF and DEF

His philosophy on switching on DEF on picks, constantly helping each other, while building his wall requires HIGH IQ/MOBILE players good team defenders/and lock defenders in multiple positions that Detroit had
But he does not adapt his philosophy to the players he has and their skills/weakness's in the lineups/rotations
They were getting rebounding position on us because we constantly helping each other as no one could recover and we didn't have the ability to defend our opponents 1v1

On Offense, he is unable to go away from Iso Joe mode in Atlanta
In fact he promotes it and actually believes it could work which is even more frustrating
VS the Pacer's we unable to get in the PAINT period, of course we are going to lose
While we could not contain the Pacer's from getting wide open shots, and scoring in the paint

He is just too stubborn, fails to recognize that he has a problems in his philosophy, unwilling to make changes to his lineups, give other players a chance when the lineups he uses have failed time after time
We need a new voice and someone needs to be able to hold our players accountable and make changes instead of just giving mean stares and letting them repeat time after time

NED, you always say you agree on many of the points people make here, but DO NOT BELIEVE KNICK's management would ever make such moves to fix the problems
So if the problems do not get fixed/changed, how will we ever learn from the mistakes?
I don't know if you truly believe in the points that you say you agree on out of respect of the poster but flat out dismiss the moves to fix it

overall...im just a realistic person. (i.e bringing in an assistant coach over woody or trading tyson)...thats just NOT going to happen. i feel like many of us have good ideas...but its not like theyre listening to us...lol..i just hope for the best. but if it offends you i apologize (i tend to keep it TOO real/pessimistic at times)

but dont get me wrong, in general (whether knicks or some other team), i tend not to believe in big time changes. most of the time, its because these teams INVEST in their players AND philosophies.