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BRIGGS
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6/2/2013  11:42 AM
This guy couldve been a superstar with multiple titles and injuries have just killed his career(although he has accomplished more than most players)
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6/2/2013  11:47 AM
I was thinking about making the same exact thread and ask who would give him the money this year.
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6/2/2013  11:48 AM
The Knicks have a center unfortunately he has not learned a move on the offensive end in his entire career.
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6/2/2013  11:50 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:I was thinking about making the same exact thread and ask who would give him the money this year.

I Think he will go back to LA if Howard leaves.
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6/2/2013  11:52 AM
Vmart wrote:The Knicks have a center unfortunately he has not learned a move on the offensive end in his entire career.

I honestly wouldn't mind that Chandler was a liability on offense if he didn't take so many nights off on defense. There were too many times in the playoffs where he would just watch someone blow right past him. I understand the injuries limited his mobility, but it did not look on the floor like he was trying to fight through it.
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6/2/2013  12:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/2/2013  12:06 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Vmart wrote:The Knicks have a center unfortunately he has not learned a move on the offensive end in his entire career.

I honestly wouldn't mind that Chandler was a liability on offense if he didn't take so many nights off on defense. There were too many times in the playoffs where he would just watch someone blow right past him. I understand the injuries limited his mobility, but it did not look on the floor like he was trying to fight through it.

He has to be able to score more I think Hibbert pretty much didn't have to guard him on defense. That allowed Hibbert to hang around the basket altering shot after shot. It really didn't help thatChandler was unable to lure Hibbert away from the basket.
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6/2/2013  12:12 PM
The flip side is mobile bigs give Hibbert a problem. I remember Javale McGee owning Bynum last year.
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6/2/2013  12:23 PM
Vmart wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Vmart wrote:The Knicks have a center unfortunately he has not learned a move on the offensive end in his entire career.

I honestly wouldn't mind that Chandler was a liability on offense if he didn't take so many nights off on defense. There were too many times in the playoffs where he would just watch someone blow right past him. I understand the injuries limited his mobility, but it did not look on the floor like he was trying to fight through it.

He has to be able to score more I think Hibbert pretty much didn't have to guard him on defense. That allowed Hibbert to hang around the basket altering shot after shot. It really didn't help thatChandler was unable to lure Hibbert away from the basket.

I agree he needs more offense. An up and under move would be great, and as you pointed out Chandler never takes a jumper to keep the defense honest.

My point was that Chandler was brought here for his defense and leadership but now he isn't even bringing that to the team. I couldn't believe he threw his teammates under the bus, reminded me of what he was like with the Bulls.
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6/2/2013  12:35 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Vmart wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Vmart wrote:The Knicks have a center unfortunately he has not learned a move on the offensive end in his entire career.

I honestly wouldn't mind that Chandler was a liability on offense if he didn't take so many nights off on defense. There were too many times in the playoffs where he would just watch someone blow right past him. I understand the injuries limited his mobility, but it did not look on the floor like he was trying to fight through it.

He has to be able to score more I think Hibbert pretty much didn't have to guard him on defense. That allowed Hibbert to hang around the basket altering shot after shot. It really didn't help thatChandler was unable to lure Hibbert away from the basket.

I agree he needs more offense. An up and under move would be great, and as you pointed out Chandler never takes a jumper to keep the defense honest.

My point was that Chandler was brought here for his defense and leadership but now he isn't even bringing that to the team. I couldn't believe he threw his teammates under the bus, reminded me of what he was like with the Bulls.

One forgets that he wasn't the leader of Mavs team it was a combination of Dirk, Kidd and Terry not so much Chandler.
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6/2/2013  12:37 PM
great to see the "center" coming back to the nba. hibbert is truly one of the best two-way players in the league, his defense is outstanding, as is his post-game. also a great rebounder. definitely shoulda won DPOY and is one of the most valuable players in the league. turning into a superstar these playoffs.
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6/2/2013  12:47 PM
Vmart wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Vmart wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Vmart wrote:The Knicks have a center unfortunately he has not learned a move on the offensive end in his entire career.

I honestly wouldn't mind that Chandler was a liability on offense if he didn't take so many nights off on defense. There were too many times in the playoffs where he would just watch someone blow right past him. I understand the injuries limited his mobility, but it did not look on the floor like he was trying to fight through it.

He has to be able to score more I think Hibbert pretty much didn't have to guard him on defense. That allowed Hibbert to hang around the basket altering shot after shot. It really didn't help thatChandler was unable to lure Hibbert away from the basket.

I agree he needs more offense. An up and under move would be great, and as you pointed out Chandler never takes a jumper to keep the defense honest.

My point was that Chandler was brought here for his defense and leadership but now he isn't even bringing that to the team. I couldn't believe he threw his teammates under the bus, reminded me of what he was like with the Bulls.

One forgets that he wasn't the leader of Mavs team it was a combination of Dirk, Kidd and Terry not so much Chandler.

I was obviously referring to his leadership on defense. Chandler changed the team's complexion on defense, without him setting the tone, they never would have beat the Heat.
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6/2/2013  1:30 PM
Javale McGee - can we get him?
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6/2/2013  1:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/2/2013  1:36 PM
This thread would make sense if Bynum was healthy. That's like saying....


David West is showing how valuable an Amar'e Stoudemire is?


Before Hibbert got to this point....his contract offer from the Blazers(matched by Pacers) this summer was thought of as overpaying by a good majority of fan bases, none more so than ours.
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6/2/2013  2:47 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/2/2013  2:48 PM
Caseloads wrote:Javale McGee - can we get him?

He's one of my targets if we trade Tyson. He has a big contract and Denver's completely soured on him so he should be available. But, if we were to trade Tyson for him we need to be getting more back than just McGee. Like some combination of Wilson Chandler, Evan Fournier, and Anthony Randolph.

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6/2/2013  2:50 PM
3G4G wrote:This thread would make sense if Bynum was healthy. That's like saying....


David West is showing how valuable an Amar'e Stoudemire is?


Before Hibbert got to this point....his contract offer from the Blazers(matched by Pacers) this summer was thought of as overpaying by a good majority of fan bases, none more so than ours.

I thought Bynum already won 2championships as a c?

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6/2/2013  2:53 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
3G4G wrote:This thread would make sense if Bynum was healthy. That's like saying....


David West is showing how valuable an Amar'e Stoudemire is?


Before Hibbert got to this point....his contract offer from the Blazers(matched by Pacers) this summer was thought of as overpaying by a good majority of fan bases, none more so than ours.

I thought Bynum already won 2championships as a c?


Your reply would make sense if you had said "was" rather than "is" in the title
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6/2/2013  2:54 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
3G4G wrote:This thread would make sense if Bynum was healthy. That's like saying....


David West is showing how valuable an Amar'e Stoudemire is?


Before Hibbert got to this point....his contract offer from the Blazers(matched by Pacers) this summer was thought of as overpaying by a good majority of fan bases, none more so than ours.

I thought Bynum already won 2championships as a c?

Hibbert has yet to win 1 so this would make your thread premature...either way the comparison shouldn't be made at this time. I could see if Bynum was healthy and the Pacers were playing the Sixers in the ECFs. Lakers traded for Dwight and got swept and never looked good all year with him.


Miami won a chip with no Center
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6/2/2013  2:54 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
3G4G wrote:This thread would make sense if Bynum was healthy. That's like saying....


David West is showing how valuable an Amar'e Stoudemire is?


Before Hibbert got to this point....his contract offer from the Blazers(matched by Pacers) this summer was thought of as overpaying by a good majority of fan bases, none more so than ours.

I thought Bynum already won 2championships as a c?


Your reply would make sense if you had said "was" rather than "is" in the title


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6/2/2013  2:57 PM
I don't think anyone has denied the fact that having a good center is extremely valuable. It's just that there are so few good centers in the league that the position as a whole has been minimized.
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VCoug wrote:I don't think anyone has denied the fact that having a good center is extremely valuable. It's just that there are so few good centers in the league that the position as a whole has been minimized.

No question you could say Bogut when he showed he had some relative health was a big factor for GSW. Every team is gonna need some kind of big to advance far whether that's a stretch 4, power 4, or Center. Noah proved huge too during the playoffs.
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