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NYKBocker
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5/29/2013  11:04 AM
Hibbert is the new thing. Well...having a big center is not really new but in today's NBA it is a new thing and teams do their usual dance of copycat.

Chicago is going to be looking for somebody to match up with Hibbert and they have some identical parts they can send out.

Would you trade Tyson for Deng straight up? Tyson with Thibs would be gold.

Deng with Melo in the frontline? Deng's contract is also 1 year shorter than Tyson.
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5/29/2013  11:06 AM
Trade makes no sense. They have Noah who is younger. Plus they need Deng for his scoring.
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5/29/2013  11:09 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Trade makes no sense. They have Noah who is younger. Plus they need Deng for his scoring.

Is Noah a center? I don't think he can check Hibbert. They are also very high on Butler.
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5/29/2013  11:24 AM
Dang thats a bad idea.
the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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5/29/2013  11:26 AM
Tie up about one third of salary on two players very similar to each other but the one you alreay have is better?

Noah is better than Tyson.
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5/29/2013  12:18 PM
Plus this will never happen
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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5/29/2013  1:20 PM
Deng is mediocre. I'd rather wait and see if Tyson gets back to normal.
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5/29/2013  1:28 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Deng is mediocre. I'd rather wait and see if Tyson gets back to normal.

Agreed.

Not to mention Tyson's trade value is at an all time low, considering how he was abused in the Indiana series... Praying that once he's had time to heal up, Tyson can regain his old form. Centers are so rare, it's gotta be worth the risk of waiting at this point.

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5/29/2013  1:38 PM
NYKBocker wrote:Hibbert is the new thing. Well...having a big center is not really new but in today's NBA it is a new thing and teams do their usual dance of copycat.

Chicago is going to be looking for somebody to match up with Hibbert and they have some identical parts they can send out.

Would you trade Tyson for Deng straight up? Tyson with Thibs would be gold.

Deng with Melo in the frontline? Deng's contract is also 1 year shorter than Tyson.


I know this is a bit off target, but you make a great point with the center being the new thing.. not many teams have a big like hibbert, who can just flat out change games.. I was looking at the sixers and Bynum, if he returns to form, it won't take long for that sixer team to be a factor... so while I agree with trading chandler, we better get some big able bodies in return.

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5/29/2013  1:43 PM
.........and who is our center?

Melo>Deng
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5/29/2013  1:46 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Trade makes no sense. They have Noah who is younger. Plus they need Deng for his scoring.

Is Noah a center? I don't think he can check Hibbert. They are also very high on Butler.

If Tyson could check Hibbert, we'd be in the ECF right now, and you wouldn't want to trade him.
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5/29/2013  1:58 PM
toad wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Trade makes no sense. They have Noah who is younger. Plus they need Deng for his scoring.

Is Noah a center? I don't think he can check Hibbert. They are also very high on Butler.

If Tyson could check Hibbert, we'd be in the ECF right now, and you wouldn't want to trade him.

Tyson wasn't the only problem.
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5/29/2013  2:03 PM
tkf wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:Hibbert is the new thing. Well...having a big center is not really new but in today's NBA it is a new thing and teams do their usual dance of copycat.

Chicago is going to be looking for somebody to match up with Hibbert and they have some identical parts they can send out.

Would you trade Tyson for Deng straight up? Tyson with Thibs would be gold.

Deng with Melo in the frontline? Deng's contract is also 1 year shorter than Tyson.


I know this is a bit off target, but you make a great point with the center being the new thing.. not many teams have a big like hibbert, who can just flat out change games.. I was looking at the sixers and Bynum, if he returns to form, it won't take long for that sixer team to be a factor... so while I agree with trading chandler, we better get some big able bodies in return.

absolutely. Even a limited Big lit Chandler is better than no true big. To bad there are so few "game changing" centers out there.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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5/29/2013  2:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/29/2013  2:10 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
toad wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Trade makes no sense. They have Noah who is younger. Plus they need Deng for his scoring.

Is Noah a center? I don't think he can check Hibbert. They are also very high on Butler.

If Tyson could check Hibbert, we'd be in the ECF right now, and you wouldn't want to trade him.

Tyson wasn't the only problem.

Your premise is that Tyson has some value to the Bulls because he can do something Noah cannot do--check Hibbert. My point is if that were true, he would have the same value to the Knicks. Unfortunately, your premise is fatally flawed.
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5/29/2013  2:23 PM
toad wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
toad wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Trade makes no sense. They have Noah who is younger. Plus they need Deng for his scoring.

Is Noah a center? I don't think he can check Hibbert. They are also very high on Butler.

If Tyson could check Hibbert, we'd be in the ECF right now, and you wouldn't want to trade him.

Tyson wasn't the only problem.

Your premise is that Tyson has some value to the Bulls because he can do something Noah cannot do--check Hibbert. My point is if that were true, he would have the same value to the Knicks. Unfortunately, your premise is fatally flawed.

I actually think Tyson can check Hibbert. Tyson had no problem defending Dwight or Bynum. The reason I want Deng is because I think he can contribute more than Tyson for the Knicks.
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5/29/2013  2:56 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:
tkf wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:Hibbert is the new thing. Well...having a big center is not really new but in today's NBA it is a new thing and teams do their usual dance of copycat.

Chicago is going to be looking for somebody to match up with Hibbert and they have some identical parts they can send out.

Would you trade Tyson for Deng straight up? Tyson with Thibs would be gold.

Deng with Melo in the frontline? Deng's contract is also 1 year shorter than Tyson.


I know this is a bit off target, but you make a great point with the center being the new thing.. not many teams have a big like hibbert, who can just flat out change games.. I was looking at the sixers and Bynum, if he returns to form, it won't take long for that sixer team to be a factor... so while I agree with trading chandler, we better get some big able bodies in return.

absolutely. Even a limited Big lit Chandler is better than no true big. To bad there are so few "game changing" centers out there.

Thank goodness there are so few, cuz unless you have one then Tyson is a good alternative!

Remember his Championship pedigree?

DPOY?
Olympian?
Warrior?
Leadership qualities?
Good lockerroom presence?

Guys, really? I appreciate the ideas exchange but we ready to move him for whom?
WHich mystical presence do we have in which we can replace him?

Hibbert at this moment is way in teh discussion for finals MVP. I know it hurts the Starphuchers to have been defeated by such a "common" group as Indy was, but reality is what it is.
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5/29/2013  3:07 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:
tkf wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:Hibbert is the new thing. Well...having a big center is not really new but in today's NBA it is a new thing and teams do their usual dance of copycat.

Chicago is going to be looking for somebody to match up with Hibbert and they have some identical parts they can send out.

Would you trade Tyson for Deng straight up? Tyson with Thibs would be gold.

Deng with Melo in the frontline? Deng's contract is also 1 year shorter than Tyson.


I know this is a bit off target, but you make a great point with the center being the new thing.. not many teams have a big like hibbert, who can just flat out change games.. I was looking at the sixers and Bynum, if he returns to form, it won't take long for that sixer team to be a factor... so while I agree with trading chandler, we better get some big able bodies in return.

absolutely. Even a limited Big lit Chandler is better than no true big. To bad there are so few "game changing" centers out there.

yep, and the problem just wan't chandler.. when he came out, we went with kenyon who was just too small...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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5/29/2013  3:52 PM
I'm not opposed to getting a SF. Melo is best at the 4 but I think we need better guard play
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5/29/2013  4:09 PM
Chandler is still a top ten legit center in the NBA.
Some might even argue top five, depending on what you're
looking for in a center.

I know sports is what have you done for me lately, but
does anyone remember the three straight 20-rebound games.
Definitely top five in on-ball, help side and pick-and-roll
defense. Second in the NBA in 2-point field goal percentage,
at a healthy 63.8 percent and a year removed from winning
Defensive Player of the Year. One of the few off the court
good guys. He was also one of the few rocks during the regular
season that didn't miss that many games.

To replace him, you're either going to have to take a chance
on a knucklehead that could go off any moment or roll the
(Mc)Dyess on an oft-injured player.

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5/29/2013  4:40 PM
Nalod wrote:.........and who is our center?

Melo and Novak split time at center!
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