Grunwald said the Knicks will not be able to do sign-and-trade this summer to acquire a free agent because of the new CBA rules. However, if one of their current free agents wants to do a sign-and-trade to depart, the Knicks are permitted. In other words, they can do a sign-and-trade with Chris Copeland and get back an asset.

Source: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicksblog/knicks_gm_grunwald_expects_kidd_7HCqXEc1SeYJ3Fh8H5imgP

That solves that.

Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.

AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.

Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.

Why would PHX do this deal? I think the best we can do is sending Camby and Felton to ORL for TurkeyGlue. This would be just a salary dump.

yellowboy90 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.

Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.

Why would PHX do this deal? I think the best we can do is sending Camby and Felton to ORL for TurkeyGlue. This would be just a salary dump.

they could do better than that without involving Felton. Hedo will more than likely be a fa this summer anyway. Orl has space but they could use more space to give their younger players time.

if you give a team 3 million with Camby it is possible to get back a good player because camby deal can be voided in his final year.

Camby has a toxic contract. You will need to give them something more than money to get his contract accepted. Hedo is not stupid and say no to $12M next year. They only have Jameer at the PG spot.

yellowboy90 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.

Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.

Why would PHX do this deal? I think the best we can do is sending Camby and Felton to ORL for TurkeyGlue. This would be just a salary dump.

they could do better than that without involving Felton. Hedo will more than likely be a fa this summer anyway. Orl has space but they could use more space to give their younger players time.

if you give a team 3 million with Camby it is possible to get back a good player because camby deal can be voided in his final year.

Camby has a toxic contract. You will need to give them something more than money to get his contract accepted. Hedo is not stupid and say no to $12M next year. They only have Jameer at the PG spot.

A 4 million dollar one year deal is not toxic and Hedo contract is only partially guaranteed. All signs point to Orlando cutting Hedo. Why keep him if they can save money and play Tobias Harris and Harkless?

Then I am truly confused. Hoopshype.com has Camby at $4M+ for 2 more years. Hedo has 1 more year at $12M. How much is guaranteed?

NYKBocker wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.

Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.

Why would PHX do this deal? I think the best we can do is sending Camby and Felton to ORL for TurkeyGlue. This would be just a salary dump.

they could do better than that without involving Felton. Hedo will more than likely be a fa this summer anyway. Orl has space but they could use more space to give their younger players time.

if you give a team 3 million with Camby it is possible to get back a good player because camby deal can be voided in his final year.

Camby has a toxic contract. You will need to give them something more than money to get his contract accepted. Hedo is not stupid and say no to $12M next year. They only have Jameer at the PG spot.

A 4 million dollar one year deal is not toxic and Hedo contract is only partially guaranteed. All signs point to Orlando cutting Hedo. Why keep him if they can save money and play Tobias Harris and Harkless?

Then I am truly confused. Hoopshype.com has Camby at $4M+ for 2 more years. Hedo has 1 more year at $12M. How much is guaranteed?

Camby 3rd year is not guaranteed. A team can cut him without paying the 4 mill and change.

Hedo:

Although Turkoglu is scheduled to earn $12 million in 2013-14, only $6 million of that figure is guaranteed. So, if you're the Magic, why pay him $12 million instead of $6 million?

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-04-17/sports/os-magic-heat-news-0418-20130417_1_orlando-magic-nik-vucevic-magic-tenure

yellowboy90 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.

Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.

Why would PHX do this deal? I think the best we can do is sending Camby and Felton to ORL for TurkeyGlue. This would be just a salary dump.

they could do better than that without involving Felton. Hedo will more than likely be a fa this summer anyway. Orl has space but they could use more space to give their younger players time.

if you give a team 3 million with Camby it is possible to get back a good player because camby deal can be voided in his final year.

Camby has a toxic contract. You will need to give them something more than money to get his contract accepted. Hedo is not stupid and say no to $12M next year. They only have Jameer at the PG spot.

A 4 million dollar one year deal is not toxic and Hedo contract is only partially guaranteed. All signs point to Orlando cutting Hedo. Why keep him if they can save money and play Tobias Harris and Harkless?

Then I am truly confused. Hoopshype.com has Camby at $4M+ for 2 more years. Hedo has 1 more year at $12M. How much is guaranteed?

Camby 3rd year is not guaranteed. A team can cut him without paying the 4 mill and change.

Hedo:

Although Turkoglu is scheduled to earn $12 million in 2013-14, only $6 million of that figure is guaranteed. So, if you're the Magic, why pay him $12 million instead of $6 million?

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-04-17/sports/os-magic-heat-news-0418-20130417_1_orlando-magic-nik-vucevic-magic-tenure

$1.3-1.9mil of his lat yr is guaranteed, so really it's not that good looking of a deal, especially when you're talking about a 40yr+ player.

3G4G wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.

Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.

Why would PHX do this deal? I think the best we can do is sending Camby and Felton to ORL for TurkeyGlue. This would be just a salary dump.

they could do better than that without involving Felton. Hedo will more than likely be a fa this summer anyway. Orl has space but they could use more space to give their younger players time.

if you give a team 3 million with Camby it is possible to get back a good player because camby deal can be voided in his final year.

Camby has a toxic contract. You will need to give them something more than money to get his contract accepted. Hedo is not stupid and say no to $12M next year. They only have Jameer at the PG spot.

A 4 million dollar one year deal is not toxic and Hedo contract is only partially guaranteed. All signs point to Orlando cutting Hedo. Why keep him if they can save money and play Tobias Harris and Harkless?

Then I am truly confused. Hoopshype.com has Camby at $4M+ for 2 more years. Hedo has 1 more year at $12M. How much is guaranteed?

Camby 3rd year is not guaranteed. A team can cut him without paying the 4 mill and change.

Hedo:

Although Turkoglu is scheduled to earn $12 million in 2013-14, only $6 million of that figure is guaranteed. So, if you're the Magic, why pay him $12 million instead of $6 million?

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-04-17/sports/os-magic-heat-news-0418-20130417_1_orlando-magic-nik-vucevic-magic-tenure

$1.3-1.9mil of his lat yr is guaranteed, so really it's not that good looking of a deal, especially when you're talking about a 40yr+ player.

This is theoretical but if you saving over 10 mill I don't think that 1.9 is that big. You are still potentially saving so much more.

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Best part is Knicks can package Novak and Camby and get back a decent player.

Novak and cash for Michael Beasley type deals need to be explored.

Once Isiah is hired as GM again of an NBA team this Crack Pipe Dream just might come true.

Yes we need your boy Terrence Williams aka Mr Gunplay. Dude pulled a gun on the mother of his child a few days ago. Lmao.