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5/21/2013  9:07 AM
From Berman's NY Post article ( http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/boeheim_rips_melo_teammates_9mV28aYvwiU7CAczkiSZoL?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Knicks ):

Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim went on a verbal tirade against Carmelo Anthony’s Knicks teammates, shocked his former player is receiving blame for the team’s second-round flameout to Indiana.

In the Syracuse Post-Standard, Boeheim ripped Tyson Chandler, whom he coached on the U.S. Olympic Team, point guards Raymond Felton and Pablo Prigioni and even coach Mike Woodson in trying to defend Anthony’s honor.

When asked if Anthony can lead the Knicks as constructed to an NBA title, Boeheim told the paper: “Not on that team. He did what he can do. He played very well the final game. Everybody’s killing him but Tyson Chandler just didn’t try to catch the ball. He threw him the ball and Tyson Chandler went like this” and the paper said Boeheim dodged in his chair.

“[Tyson] was wide open,’’ Boeheim added. “He should have been looking for the ball right here. Kenyon Martin should have been looking for the ball. They both went like this [Boeheim dodged again]. Carmelo gets turnovers and the announcers aren’t smart enough to even think, ‘Well, the guy should try to catch the ball.’

“Tyson Chandler claims he never gets the ball,’’ Boeheim continued.” He doesn’t try to get the ball. He had two points and Hibbert had [21].’’

Boeheim went on his diatribe at the Carmelo K. Anthony Center in Syracuse, which Anthony helped pay for. The Syracuse coach catches most of the Knicks’ games on television to watch his former player.

“What was the difference in the series?,’’ Boeheim said. “Raymond Felton was 0-for-7. Lance Stephenson had [25] points. They’re going to blame it on Carmelo? I told him when he went to New York, ‘They’re going to blame it on you.’

“They have no chance to win,’’ Boeheim continued, according to the Syracuse daily. “Pablo Prigioni has never scored against [Team USA]. We played Argentina six or seven times in different events. He hasn’t scored against us. You have to have players to win in the NBA.”

Boeheim said J.R. Smith and Felton “weren’t great players where they were and now they’re asking them to be second and third options.”

Boeheim said the Heat have second, third and fourth options of Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and Ray Allen and have Shane Battier, too.

“The New York Knicks have who?” Boeheim asked.

Anthony, for his part, scored four points in three fourth quarters during the three losses to the Pacers at Bankers Life Field House. When asked about Woodson’s offensive scheme, Boeheim said: “I said to my son, ‘[Carmelo’s] going to have to get 50 for them to win.’ That’s what he needed. Fifty. You’re not going to get that against Indiana.’’

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5/21/2013  9:15 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/21/2013  9:17 AM
I used to dog Melo but how anyone could of watched this Pacers series and blame Melo is getting drunk in the club with JR SMith


Jim is absolutely right Melo had basically no help when your 3rd best player in the series is Copeland you have serious problems .I thought Prigs actually played well though

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5/21/2013  9:22 AM
Melo performed just as poorly as the rest of his supporting cast. Paul George locked him down and had him taking exactly the kind of shots Indy wanted Melo taking. Forced midrange jumpers and contested drives where he gets pushed right into Indy's shot blockers.
Melo shoots 9-23, 6-16 and 10-28 all losses vs. Pacers.
Melo shoots 8-24 and 10-35 in losses to Boston.

Knicks lost 6 playoff games. 5 of them its 10000% justifiable to dump them right on Melo' shoulders. If your built around a "great MVP caliber scorer" and this is what he gives you come playoff time your gonna fail, as his team do time and time and time and time again in the playoffs.

When we get a REAL scorer. Like a guy who gives you 50% or more in the post and Melo is the #2 guy we can compete for a title. But this has been the same for the 10 years he's been in the league.

Folks can pretend this isnt a problem all they want. The reall killer is the #2 guy in this offense JR is even worse.

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5/21/2013  9:27 AM
Jmpasq wrote:I used to dog Melo but how anyone could of watched this Pacers series and blame Melo is getting drunk in the club with JR SMith


Jim is absolutely right Melo had basically no help when your 3rd best player in the series is Copeland you have serious problems .I thought Prigs actually played well though

so old man. He never has help. 10 years and no help in the playoffs. This why he shoots 40% right? Because nobody helps him? He doesnt know how to play. The harder he "tries" the more his teammates stand and watch him pound the ball while he has 10-34 shooting performances.

The guy is good player, he's our best player and he's not good enough to build a team around. He's a #2 scorer. Knicks have big problems.

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5/21/2013  9:29 AM
fishmike wrote:Melo performed just as poorly as the rest of his supporting cast. Paul George locked him down and had him taking exactly the kind of shots Indy wanted Melo taking. Forced midrange jumpers and contested drives where he gets pushed right into Indy's shot blockers.
Melo shoots 9-23, 6-16 and 10-28 all losses vs. Pacers.
Melo shoots 8-24 and 10-35 in losses to Boston.

Knicks lost 6 playoff games. 5 of them its 10000% justifiable to dump them right on Melo' shoulders. If your built around a "great MVP caliber scorer" and this is what he gives you come playoff time your gonna fail, as his team do time and time and time and time again in the playoffs.

When we get a REAL scorer. Like a guy who gives you 50% or more in the post and Melo is the #2 guy we can compete for a title. But this has been the same for the 10 years he's been in the league.

Folks can pretend this isnt a problem all they want. The reall killer is the #2 guy in this offense JR is even worse.

I can agree with the fact that Melo needs a post player to work off of. We need an inside presence that can balance out the offense. Too much perimeter play, too much reliance on the 3 ball.

We need an inside out game, and unfortunately that inside was supposed to be Amare.

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5/21/2013  9:35 AM
Sometimes the truth is harsh, but it is still the truth. I don't agree with his words on the melo turnovers. Those turnovers were really bad passes that came only after he had no other options. His teammates should have been creating passing lanes for him(I like to do this when I play.), but you can not blame them entirely for those turnovers.
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5/21/2013  9:40 AM
Melo had no support in game 6. He was bad in some of the other games. His teammates were worse.
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5/21/2013  9:40 AM
fishmike wrote:Melo performed just as poorly as the rest of his supporting cast. Paul George locked him down and had him taking exactly the kind of shots Indy wanted Melo taking. Forced midrange jumpers and contested drives where he gets pushed right into Indy's shot blockers.
Melo shoots 9-23, 6-16 and 10-28 all losses vs. Pacers.
Melo shoots 8-24 and 10-35 in losses to Boston.

Knicks lost 6 playoff games. 5 of them its 10000% justifiable to dump them right on Melo' shoulders. If your built around a "great MVP caliber scorer" and this is what he gives you come playoff time your gonna fail, as his team do time and time and time and time again in the playoffs.

When we get a REAL scorer. Like a guy who gives you 50% or more in the post and Melo is the #2 guy we can compete for a title. But this has been the same for the 10 years he's been in the league.

Folks can pretend this isnt a problem all they want. The reall killer is the #2 guy in this offense JR is even worse.

A real scorer like Durant he didnt shoot 50% without Westbrook

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5/21/2013  9:41 AM
Boeheim is right. Melo needs several USA Olympic level teammates.
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5/21/2013  9:43 AM
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fishmike wrote:Melo performed just as poorly as the rest of his supporting cast. Paul George locked him down and had him taking exactly the kind of shots Indy wanted Melo taking. Forced midrange jumpers and contested drives where he gets pushed right into Indy's shot blockers.
Melo shoots 9-23, 6-16 and 10-28 all losses vs. Pacers.
Melo shoots 8-24 and 10-35 in losses to Boston.

Knicks lost 6 playoff games. 5 of them its 10000% justifiable to dump them right on Melo' shoulders. If your built around a "great MVP caliber scorer" and this is what he gives you come playoff time your gonna fail, as his team do time and time and time and time again in the playoffs.

When we get a REAL scorer. Like a guy who gives you 50% or more in the post and Melo is the #2 guy we can compete for a title. But this has been the same for the 10 years he's been in the league.

Folks can pretend this isnt a problem all they want. The reall killer is the #2 guy in this offense JR is even worse.

I can agree with the fact that Melo needs a post player to work off of. We need an inside presence that can balance out the offense. Too much perimeter play, too much reliance on the 3 ball.

We need an inside out game, and unfortunately that inside was supposed to be Amare.

When amare is healthy he still takes 1 shot to melo's 5. As long as melo controls most of the ball handling duties were screwed. We need a pg like a young nash, magic, stockton..smart pg's that will run a offense and not give the ball to melo annd clear out.

by the time melo makes his move or tries to pass, there isn't much time on the shot clock and his teammates are force to take a wild shot, and when they miss, thats when " the melo has no help" comments coming pouring in..

Why don't ppl say it correctly, Melo has nobody to bail him out

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5/21/2013  9:45 AM
fishmike wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:I used to dog Melo but how anyone could of watched this Pacers series and blame Melo is getting drunk in the club with JR SMith


Jim is absolutely right Melo had basically no help when your 3rd best player in the series is Copeland you have serious problems .I thought Prigs actually played well though

so old man. He never has help. 10 years and no help in the playoffs. This why he shoots 40% right? Because nobody helps him? He doesnt know how to play. The harder he "tries" the more his teammates stand and watch him pound the ball while he has 10-34 shooting performances.

The guy is good player, he's our best player and he's not good enough to build a team around. He's a #2 scorer. Knicks have big problems.

U think Melo might shoot slightly better if he had Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh next to him? Do u think Melo would Shoot better if Shaq in his prime was on the team. What about if he played with Russel Westbrook? U guys see Durant those last 2 games without any help thats what Melo deals with on a nightly basis

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5/21/2013  9:46 AM
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ChuckBuck wrote:
fishmike wrote:Melo performed just as poorly as the rest of his supporting cast. Paul George locked him down and had him taking exactly the kind of shots Indy wanted Melo taking. Forced midrange jumpers and contested drives where he gets pushed right into Indy's shot blockers.
Melo shoots 9-23, 6-16 and 10-28 all losses vs. Pacers.
Melo shoots 8-24 and 10-35 in losses to Boston.

Knicks lost 6 playoff games. 5 of them its 10000% justifiable to dump them right on Melo' shoulders. If your built around a "great MVP caliber scorer" and this is what he gives you come playoff time your gonna fail, as his team do time and time and time and time again in the playoffs.

When we get a REAL scorer. Like a guy who gives you 50% or more in the post and Melo is the #2 guy we can compete for a title. But this has been the same for the 10 years he's been in the league.

Folks can pretend this isnt a problem all they want. The reall killer is the #2 guy in this offense JR is even worse.

I can agree with the fact that Melo needs a post player to work off of. We need an inside presence that can balance out the offense. Too much perimeter play, too much reliance on the 3 ball.

We need an inside out game, and unfortunately that inside was supposed to be Amare.

When amare is healthy he still takes 1 shot to melo's 5. As long as melo controls most of the ball handling duties were screwed. We need a pg like a young nash, magic, stockton..smart pg's that will run a offense and not give the ball to melo annd clear out.

by the time melo makes his move or tries to pass, there isn't much time on the shot clock and his teammates are force to take a wild shot, and when they miss, thats when " the melo has no help" comments coming pouring in..

Why don't ppl say it correctly, Melo has nobody to bail him out


was Kobe bailed out, Lebron bailed out, Durant bailed out if you say yes then yes Melo needs to be bailed out
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5/21/2013  9:48 AM
VDesai wrote:Melo had no support in game 6. He was bad in some of the other games. His teammates were worse.

+1

everyone was substandard. I do think the supporting cast and the coaching was worse but it feels an awful lot like arguing about which tragedy was worse

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5/21/2013  9:48 AM
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ChuckBuck wrote:
fishmike wrote:Melo performed just as poorly as the rest of his supporting cast. Paul George locked him down and had him taking exactly the kind of shots Indy wanted Melo taking. Forced midrange jumpers and contested drives where he gets pushed right into Indy's shot blockers.
Melo shoots 9-23, 6-16 and 10-28 all losses vs. Pacers.
Melo shoots 8-24 and 10-35 in losses to Boston.

Knicks lost 6 playoff games. 5 of them its 10000% justifiable to dump them right on Melo' shoulders. If your built around a "great MVP caliber scorer" and this is what he gives you come playoff time your gonna fail, as his team do time and time and time and time again in the playoffs.

When we get a REAL scorer. Like a guy who gives you 50% or more in the post and Melo is the #2 guy we can compete for a title. But this has been the same for the 10 years he's been in the league.

Folks can pretend this isnt a problem all they want. The reall killer is the #2 guy in this offense JR is even worse.

I can agree with the fact that Melo needs a post player to work off of. We need an inside presence that can balance out the offense. Too much perimeter play, too much reliance on the 3 ball.

We need an inside out game, and unfortunately that inside was supposed to be Amare.

When amare is healthy he still takes 1 shot to melo's 5. As long as melo controls most of the ball handling duties were screwed. We need a pg like a young nash, magic, stockton..smart pg's that will run a offense and not give the ball to melo annd clear out.

by the time melo makes his move or tries to pass, there isn't much time on the shot clock and his teammates are force to take a wild shot, and when they miss, thats when " the melo has no help" comments coming pouring in..

Why don't ppl say it correctly, Melo has nobody to bail him out

This is what I wanted melo to understand with our last coach. Instead of wanting the ball and have others clear out why not get the ball off of penetration or something. This stop the ability of the defense to double team him and forces him to act quickly with the ball. When melo has to think about what to do his chances of success goes down by the second. The weird thing is he gets it when he plays with team USA which is why he always dominates with them. Maybe it is a situation where he does not respect him team enough to relinquish control.

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5/21/2013  9:49 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
fishmike wrote:Melo performed just as poorly as the rest of his supporting cast. Paul George locked him down and had him taking exactly the kind of shots Indy wanted Melo taking. Forced midrange jumpers and contested drives where he gets pushed right into Indy's shot blockers.
Melo shoots 9-23, 6-16 and 10-28 all losses vs. Pacers.
Melo shoots 8-24 and 10-35 in losses to Boston.

Knicks lost 6 playoff games. 5 of them its 10000% justifiable to dump them right on Melo' shoulders. If your built around a "great MVP caliber scorer" and this is what he gives you come playoff time your gonna fail, as his team do time and time and time and time again in the playoffs.

When we get a REAL scorer. Like a guy who gives you 50% or more in the post and Melo is the #2 guy we can compete for a title. But this has been the same for the 10 years he's been in the league.

Folks can pretend this isnt a problem all they want. The reall killer is the #2 guy in this offense JR is even worse.

I can agree with the fact that Melo needs a post player to work off of. We need an inside presence that can balance out the offense. Too much perimeter play, too much reliance on the 3 ball.

We need an inside out game, and unfortunately that inside was supposed to be Amare.

When amare is healthy he still takes 1 shot to melo's 5. As long as melo controls most of the ball handling duties were screwed. We need a pg like a young nash, magic, stockton..smart pg's that will run a offense and not give the ball to melo annd clear out.

by the time melo makes his move or tries to pass, there isn't much time on the shot clock and his teammates are force to take a wild shot, and when they miss, thats when " the melo has no help" comments coming pouring in..

Why don't ppl say it correctly, Melo has nobody to bail him out

That's the conundrum. Amare was supposed to start at the 4 this season, at least that was the intention. He was supposed to be the 17 pt and 7 rebound guy on the frontcourt to Melo's perimeter game.

Dude can't even play half a season, so there literally is no one else to "bail" out Melo.

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5/21/2013  9:53 AM
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fishmike wrote:Melo performed just as poorly as the rest of his supporting cast. Paul George locked him down and had him taking exactly the kind of shots Indy wanted Melo taking. Forced midrange jumpers and contested drives where he gets pushed right into Indy's shot blockers.
Melo shoots 9-23, 6-16 and 10-28 all losses vs. Pacers.
Melo shoots 8-24 and 10-35 in losses to Boston.

Knicks lost 6 playoff games. 5 of them its 10000% justifiable to dump them right on Melo' shoulders. If your built around a "great MVP caliber scorer" and this is what he gives you come playoff time your gonna fail, as his team do time and time and time and time again in the playoffs.

When we get a REAL scorer. Like a guy who gives you 50% or more in the post and Melo is the #2 guy we can compete for a title. But this has been the same for the 10 years he's been in the league.

Folks can pretend this isnt a problem all they want. The reall killer is the #2 guy in this offense JR is even worse.

I can agree with the fact that Melo needs a post player to work off of. We need an inside presence that can balance out the offense. Too much perimeter play, too much reliance on the 3 ball.

We need an inside out game, and unfortunately that inside was supposed to be Amare.

If we had a 27 year old Amare that was putting up 25ppg on 52% shooting as our #1 option it would be different. Regular season does not = playoffs. Our team reminds me of the Hawks of the 90s. Good players.. Steve Smith, Mookie Blaylock, Kevin Willis... good enough to win 50ish games a year and good enough to get bounced in round 1 or 2 every year. You can see the Knicks building this kind of team
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5/21/2013  9:57 AM
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knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
fishmike wrote:Melo performed just as poorly as the rest of his supporting cast. Paul George locked him down and had him taking exactly the kind of shots Indy wanted Melo taking. Forced midrange jumpers and contested drives where he gets pushed right into Indy's shot blockers.
Melo shoots 9-23, 6-16 and 10-28 all losses vs. Pacers.
Melo shoots 8-24 and 10-35 in losses to Boston.

Knicks lost 6 playoff games. 5 of them its 10000% justifiable to dump them right on Melo' shoulders. If your built around a "great MVP caliber scorer" and this is what he gives you come playoff time your gonna fail, as his team do time and time and time and time again in the playoffs.

When we get a REAL scorer. Like a guy who gives you 50% or more in the post and Melo is the #2 guy we can compete for a title. But this has been the same for the 10 years he's been in the league.

Folks can pretend this isnt a problem all they want. The reall killer is the #2 guy in this offense JR is even worse.

I can agree with the fact that Melo needs a post player to work off of. We need an inside presence that can balance out the offense. Too much perimeter play, too much reliance on the 3 ball.

We need an inside out game, and unfortunately that inside was supposed to be Amare.

When amare is healthy he still takes 1 shot to melo's 5. As long as melo controls most of the ball handling duties were screwed. We need a pg like a young nash, magic, stockton..smart pg's that will run a offense and not give the ball to melo annd clear out.

by the time melo makes his move or tries to pass, there isn't much time on the shot clock and his teammates are force to take a wild shot, and when they miss, thats when " the melo has no help" comments coming pouring in..

Why don't ppl say it correctly, Melo has nobody to bail him out

This is what I wanted melo to understand with our last coach. Instead of wanting the ball and have others clear out why not get the ball off of penetration or something. This stop the ability of the defense to double team him and forces him to act quickly with the ball. When melo has to think about what to do his chances of success goes down by the second. The weird thing is he gets it when he plays with team USA which is why he always dominates with them. Maybe it is a situation where he does not respect him team enough to relinquish control.


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Would u?look who he is playing with he probably figures a bad shot early in the shot clock from him is still better then Jason Kidd standing on the 3 point line deciding whether he should shoot the ball for 8 seconds before passing it back with 4 seconds left

Was Melo great? No, but come on Tyson Chandler got destroyed by Roy Hibbert the whole series. Chandler gets 14 million a year shouldnt some of the blame go to him. What about that bum Amare who makes 20 million. Aren't those guys supposed to be out there carrying the team with Melo or am I wrong. Everyone can point the finger and blame Melo meanwhile Amare and Chandler give us 4 and 6 in an elimination game but Melo who goes for almost 40 is the 1 all the blame is hoisted on

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5/21/2013  10:00 AM
they let each other down but that Tyson stuff is funny. I disagree about Prigs some what
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5/21/2013  10:03 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:I used to dog Melo but how anyone could of watched this Pacers series and blame Melo is getting drunk in the club with JR SMith


Jim is absolutely right Melo had basically no help when your 3rd best player in the series is Copeland you have serious problems .I thought Prigs actually played well though

so old man. He never has help. 10 years and no help in the playoffs. This why he shoots 40% right? Because nobody helps him? He doesnt know how to play. The harder he "tries" the more his teammates stand and watch him pound the ball while he has 10-34 shooting performances.

The guy is good player, he's our best player and he's not good enough to build a team around. He's a #2 scorer. Knicks have big problems.

U think Melo might shoot slightly better if he had Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh next to him? Do u think Melo would Shoot better if Shaq in his prime was on the team. What about if he played with Russel Westbrook? U guys see Durant those last 2 games without any help thats what Melo deals with on a nightly basis

you nailed. Melo is garbage without his Olympic teammates. Thanks. After ten year of getting used in the playoffs and shooting like Jamal Crawford I think we can all see your truth. Melo's teams need stars on them, because if he doesnt have star PG to get him the ball, a star SG to pass too and a start post player to create space we can pretty much count on Melo shooting 40% in the playoffs while we lose game after game he puts up 10-34.

Yes... Melo had no help in game six and he played well. His shooting in the other 3 losses: 6-16, 9-24 and 10-28 had NOTHING to do with why game 6 was an elimination game right?

I get the pattern now:

Melo blows in the playoffs and shoots a % in the 30s. Melo has a solid elimination game. Everyone says "see???? Melo has no help."

Got it.

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Jmpasq wrote:
Clean wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
fishmike wrote:Melo performed just as poorly as the rest of his supporting cast. Paul George locked him down and had him taking exactly the kind of shots Indy wanted Melo taking. Forced midrange jumpers and contested drives where he gets pushed right into Indy's shot blockers.
Melo shoots 9-23, 6-16 and 10-28 all losses vs. Pacers.
Melo shoots 8-24 and 10-35 in losses to Boston.

Knicks lost 6 playoff games. 5 of them its 10000% justifiable to dump them right on Melo' shoulders. If your built around a "great MVP caliber scorer" and this is what he gives you come playoff time your gonna fail, as his team do time and time and time and time again in the playoffs.

When we get a REAL scorer. Like a guy who gives you 50% or more in the post and Melo is the #2 guy we can compete for a title. But this has been the same for the 10 years he's been in the league.

Folks can pretend this isnt a problem all they want. The reall killer is the #2 guy in this offense JR is even worse.

I can agree with the fact that Melo needs a post player to work off of. We need an inside presence that can balance out the offense. Too much perimeter play, too much reliance on the 3 ball.

We need an inside out game, and unfortunately that inside was supposed to be Amare.

When amare is healthy he still takes 1 shot to melo's 5. As long as melo controls most of the ball handling duties were screwed. We need a pg like a young nash, magic, stockton..smart pg's that will run a offense and not give the ball to melo annd clear out.

by the time melo makes his move or tries to pass, there isn't much time on the shot clock and his teammates are force to take a wild shot, and when they miss, thats when " the melo has no help" comments coming pouring in..

Why don't ppl say it correctly, Melo has nobody to bail him out

This is what I wanted melo to understand with our last coach. Instead of wanting the ball and have others clear out why not get the ball off of penetration or something. This stop the ability of the defense to double team him and forces him to act quickly with the ball. When melo has to think about what to do his chances of success goes down by the second. The weird thing is he gets it when he plays with team USA which is why he always dominates with them. Maybe it is a situation where he does not respect him team enough to relinquish control.


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Would u?look who he is playing with he probably figures a bad shot early in the shot clock from him is still better then Jason Kidd standing on the 3 point line deciding whether he should shoot the ball for 8 seconds before passing it back with 4 seconds left

I think you're right that he figures that. The problem is that he couldn't be more incorrect. His teammates actually shot better than he did. He even called this the best team he's played on and said he's going to stop caring about scoring.
Boeheim rips Melo’s teammates

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