After thinking about it--we must stay course--but some change is needed. The foundation if the team is Carmelo Shumpert Felton Amare(as new 6th man) The disappointment to me--the reason why this series was lost falls on Chandler. Chandler if he played big--we wouldve won. Thats two years in a row--and now the Knicks have to weigh on the question of can we do this with Chandler? Can Chandler make a commitment to come back and make a 12 foot jumpshot and one post move to expand his game? Will he lift weights and put 10-15 pounds of muscle on a body that was overwhelmed by a bigger man? If he can come in to the office and say I need to work and put on a little weight and strength--add some much needed offense to my repetoire---than keep him. It's easier to go with what you have --it will be hard to trade him right now but it can be done Im sure.

Stay the course plan

A. Decide what we want to do with Chandler--if he commits to putting on 15 pounds of muscle and brings back some offense in terms of one post move and a 14 foot jumpshot--then I say we roll with him. He has to improve he cannot rest on what he has done personally in the NBA--he has to admit he needs to get stronger and come back with a simple form of an offensive game

B Include Amare in a role for 24 minutes as sixth man

B. darft pick 24 we need proven and athletic Larkin Greene Hardaway and I still sticking to Wolters
C Buy a 2nd round pick and go for Branden davies hes athletic 6-10 245 with length perfect 4 size with a skill package

D. Go big with the MLE If it was me I would go very hard after Blatche first Kaman and Dalembart second

E. Resign Copeland Smith and Martin to reasonable contracts if not goodbye

F. See if there is a market for Steve Novak for a trade for a G or draft pick

G Opportunity knocks. If a guy like Paul Pierce became available for the MLE or anything like that--offer team the MLE

H. Get Kidd and camby to retire

Were not far off. Stay the course and try to improve the team. Mandate Chandler to get stronger and come in with post moves. Get Amare on page with a 24 minute 6th man role. Shumpert gets a whole 5 months to get stronger. Get two draft picks who can contribute especially pick 24 to out transition game that has been so bad. Use some money and get a young big PF like davies. Get the best bang for your buck with the MLE start big but lets see who is there.

BRIGGS wrote:I think in some ways we were close to being there--but obviously not close enough. Boy I was watching that game and I keep thinking that man we were a controversial blocked shot at a dunk away from possibly having a game 7 with a chance to go to the ECF

After thinking about it--we must stay course--but some change is needed. The foundation if the team is Carmelo Shumpert Felton Amare(as new 6th man) The disappointment to me--the reason why this series was lost falls on Chandler. Chandler if he played big--we wouldve won. Thats two years in a row--and now the Knicks have to weigh on the question of can we do this with Chandler? Can Chandler make a commitment to come back and make a 12 foot jumpshot and one post move to expand his game? Will he lift weights and put 10-15 pounds of muscle on a body that was overwhelmed by a bigger man? If he can come in to the office and say I need to work and put on a little weight and strength--add some much needed offense to my repetoire---than keep him. It's easier to go with what you have --it will be hard to trade him right now but it can be done Im sure.

Stay the course plan

A. Decide what we want to do with Chandler--if he commits to putting on 15 pounds of muscle and brings back some offense in terms of one post move and a 14 foot jumpshot--then I say we roll with him. He has to improve he cannot rest on what he has done personally in the NBA--he has to admit he needs to get stronger and come back with a simple form of an offensive game

B Include Amare in a role for 24 minutes as sixth man

B. darft pick 24 we need proven and athletic Larkin Greene Hardaway and I still sticking to Wolters
C Buy a 2nd round pick and go for Branden davies hes athletic 6-10 245 with length perfect 4 size with a skill package

D. Go big with the MLE If it was me I would go very hard after Blatche first Kaman and Dalembart second

E. Resign Copeland Smith and Martin to reasonable contracts if not goodbye

F. See if there is a market for Steve Novak for a trade for a G or draft pick

G Opportunity knocks. If a guy like Paul Pierce became available for the MLE or anything like that--offer team the MLE

H. Get Kidd and camby to retire

Were not far off. Stay the course and try to improve the team. Mandate Chandler to get stronger and come in with post moves. Get Amare on page with a 24 minute 6th man role. Shumpert gets a whole 5 months to get stronger. Get two draft picks who can contribute especially pick 24 to out transition game that has been so bad. Use some money and get a young big PF like davies. Get the best bang for your buck with the MLE start big but lets see who is there.

You are making this judgment based on the last game? Do you believe Melo can score this way every game? If not where is our offense coming from? Look at games from Celtics series and then games 1-5, what was his shooting percentage? Why do you want JR back? Indiana isn't even a very good team - what were they 5th in the East? We got outcoached and overmatched with our platoon of veteran bigs and superstar failed to shine. Our greatest closer in the game failed to close.

First thing we need is a very good PG
Second we need a tsarting PF - Unless Woody will start Amare, which he won't because MElo will pout about it
Third we need an upgrade at coach

loweyecue wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think in some ways we were close to being there--but obviously not close enough. Boy I was watching that game and I keep thinking that man we were a controversial blocked shot at a dunk away from possibly having a game 7 with a chance to go to the ECF

After thinking about it--we must stay course--but some change is needed. The foundation if the team is Carmelo Shumpert Felton Amare(as new 6th man) The disappointment to me--the reason why this series was lost falls on Chandler. Chandler if he played big--we wouldve won. Thats two years in a row--and now the Knicks have to weigh on the question of can we do this with Chandler? Can Chandler make a commitment to come back and make a 12 foot jumpshot and one post move to expand his game? Will he lift weights and put 10-15 pounds of muscle on a body that was overwhelmed by a bigger man? If he can come in to the office and say I need to work and put on a little weight and strength--add some much needed offense to my repetoire---than keep him. It's easier to go with what you have --it will be hard to trade him right now but it can be done Im sure.

Stay the course plan

A. Decide what we want to do with Chandler--if he commits to putting on 15 pounds of muscle and brings back some offense in terms of one post move and a 14 foot jumpshot--then I say we roll with him. He has to improve he cannot rest on what he has done personally in the NBA--he has to admit he needs to get stronger and come back with a simple form of an offensive game

B Include Amare in a role for 24 minutes as sixth man

B. darft pick 24 we need proven and athletic Larkin Greene Hardaway and I still sticking to Wolters
C Buy a 2nd round pick and go for Branden davies hes athletic 6-10 245 with length perfect 4 size with a skill package

D. Go big with the MLE If it was me I would go very hard after Blatche first Kaman and Dalembart second

E. Resign Copeland Smith and Martin to reasonable contracts if not goodbye

F. See if there is a market for Steve Novak for a trade for a G or draft pick

G Opportunity knocks. If a guy like Paul Pierce became available for the MLE or anything like that--offer team the MLE

H. Get Kidd and camby to retire

Were not far off. Stay the course and try to improve the team. Mandate Chandler to get stronger and come in with post moves. Get Amare on page with a 24 minute 6th man role. Shumpert gets a whole 5 months to get stronger. Get two draft picks who can contribute especially pick 24 to out transition game that has been so bad. Use some money and get a young big PF like davies. Get the best bang for your buck with the MLE start big but lets see who is there.

You are making this judgment based on the last game? Do you believe Melo can score this way every game? If not where is our offense coming from? Look at games from Celtics series and then games 1-5, what was his shooting percentage? Why do you want JR back? Indiana isn't even a very good team - what were they 5th in the East? We got outcoached and overmatched with our platoon of veteran bigs and superstar failed to shine. Our greatest closer in the game failed to close.

First thing we need is a very good PG
Second we need a tsarting PF - Unless Woody will start Amare, which he won't because MElo will pout about it
Third we need an upgrade at coach

Vmart wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think in some ways we were close to being there--but obviously not close enough. Boy I was watching that game and I keep thinking that man we were a controversial blocked shot at a dunk away from possibly having a game 7 with a chance to go to the ECF

After thinking about it--we must stay course--but some change is needed. The foundation if the team is Carmelo Shumpert Felton Amare(as new 6th man) The disappointment to me--the reason why this series was lost falls on Chandler. Chandler if he played big--we wouldve won. Thats two years in a row--and now the Knicks have to weigh on the question of can we do this with Chandler? Can Chandler make a commitment to come back and make a 12 foot jumpshot and one post move to expand his game? Will he lift weights and put 10-15 pounds of muscle on a body that was overwhelmed by a bigger man? If he can come in to the office and say I need to work and put on a little weight and strength--add some much needed offense to my repetoire---than keep him. It's easier to go with what you have --it will be hard to trade him right now but it can be done Im sure.

Stay the course plan

A. Decide what we want to do with Chandler--if he commits to putting on 15 pounds of muscle and brings back some offense in terms of one post move and a 14 foot jumpshot--then I say we roll with him. He has to improve he cannot rest on what he has done personally in the NBA--he has to admit he needs to get stronger and come back with a simple form of an offensive game

B Include Amare in a role for 24 minutes as sixth man

B. darft pick 24 we need proven and athletic Larkin Greene Hardaway and I still sticking to Wolters
C Buy a 2nd round pick and go for Branden davies hes athletic 6-10 245 with length perfect 4 size with a skill package

D. Go big with the MLE If it was me I would go very hard after Blatche first Kaman and Dalembart second

E. Resign Copeland Smith and Martin to reasonable contracts if not goodbye

F. See if there is a market for Steve Novak for a trade for a G or draft pick

G Opportunity knocks. If a guy like Paul Pierce became available for the MLE or anything like that--offer team the MLE

H. Get Kidd and camby to retire

Were not far off. Stay the course and try to improve the team. Mandate Chandler to get stronger and come in with post moves. Get Amare on page with a 24 minute 6th man role. Shumpert gets a whole 5 months to get stronger. Get two draft picks who can contribute especially pick 24 to out transition game that has been so bad. Use some money and get a young big PF like davies. Get the best bang for your buck with the MLE start big but lets see who is there.

You are making this judgment based on the last game? Do you believe Melo can score this way every game? If not where is our offense coming from? Look at games from Celtics series and then games 1-5, what was his shooting percentage? Why do you want JR back? Indiana isn't even a very good team - what were they 5th in the East? We got outcoached and overmatched with our platoon of veteran bigs and superstar failed to shine. Our greatest closer in the game failed to close.

First thing we need is a very good PG
Second we need a tsarting PF - Unless Woody will start Amare, which he won't because MElo will pout about it
Third we need an upgrade at coach

Amare didn't make it out of training camp without needing a knee surgery. He played limited minutes in 39 games and broke down again and needed another surgery. Amare not playing isn't about Melo pouting. The guy can't stay healthy. Where does this Melo pouting thing come from?

Amare needs to be healthy end of story. This has nothing to do with Melo and everything to do with Amare.

BRIGGS wrote:I think in some ways we were close to being there--but obviously not close enough. Boy I was watching that game and I keep thinking that man we were a controversial blocked shot at a dunk away from possibly having a game 7 with a chance to go to the ECF

After thinking about it--we must stay course--but some change is needed. The foundation if the team is Carmelo Shumpert Felton Amare(as new 6th man) The disappointment to me--the reason why this series was lost falls on Chandler. Chandler if he played big--we wouldve won. Thats two years in a row--and now the Knicks have to weigh on the question of can we do this with Chandler? Can Chandler make a commitment to come back and make a 12 foot jumpshot and one post move to expand his game? Will he lift weights and put 10-15 pounds of muscle on a body that was overwhelmed by a bigger man? If he can come in to the office and say I need to work and put on a little weight and strength--add some much needed offense to my repetoire---than keep him. It's easier to go with what you have --it will be hard to trade him right now but it can be done Im sure.

Stay the course plan

A. Decide what we want to do with Chandler--if he commits to putting on 15 pounds of muscle and brings back some offense in terms of one post move and a 14 foot jumpshot--then I say we roll with him. He has to improve he cannot rest on what he has done personally in the NBA--he has to admit he needs to get stronger and come back with a simple form of an offensive game

B Include Amare in a role for 24 minutes as sixth man

B. darft pick 24 we need proven and athletic Larkin Greene Hardaway and I still sticking to Wolters
C Buy a 2nd round pick and go for Branden davies hes athletic 6-10 245 with length perfect 4 size with a skill package

D. Go big with the MLE If it was me I would go very hard after Blatche first Kaman and Dalembart second

E. Resign Copeland Smith and Martin to reasonable contracts if not goodbye

F. See if there is a market for Steve Novak for a trade for a G or draft pick

G Opportunity knocks. If a guy like Paul Pierce became available for the MLE or anything like that--offer team the MLE

H. Get Kidd and camby to retire

Were not far off. Stay the course and try to improve the team. Mandate Chandler to get stronger and come in with post moves. Get Amare on page with a 24 minute 6th man role. Shumpert gets a whole 5 months to get stronger. Get two draft picks who can contribute especially pick 24 to out transition game that has been so bad. Use some money and get a young big PF like davies. Get the best bang for your buck with the MLE start big but lets see who is there.

A - Definitely try to trade him. I don't think we can fetch anything near what some of you are suggesting but try nonetheless. It's a shame because we'll be selling so low right now. Gotta try though. He may be the most overrated player I've ever encountered in sports -- and I've been an avid baseball/basketball follower for over 30 years and have watched thousands of athletes during that time come down the pike. Never seen a more overrated player. I just can't trust Chandler and JR Smith --- Chandler had an opportunity to work with Hakeem the Dream in the off-season and turned it down...I know he hard the Olympics--I get that--but you mean to tell me he couldn't go down and at least sit with The Dream and pick his brain a little bit on basic post play?? How do you turn down an opportunity like that? And it would've been extra beneficial going down with Amar'e there too...This guy will not add a thing to his game this off-season. Bank on it...Then during this series with Indy, he talks smack about his teammates to the media and then goes out and proceeds to turn in some of the worst performances I've ever seen, worse than any of his teammates. No accountability -- always someone else's fault -- the refs on every call, his teammates...This guy stinks on ice....And JR just said "I won't let it happen next time" or some bull****. Really pal? Well, why'd ya let it happen this time?? Outta here, both of them!! Just can't trust either guy anymore.

B - Agreed. No choice really. Horrendous contract coupled with the fact that he's damaged goods now. But limiting him to 25 mins or so is a good idea and we might be able to preserve him & get a productive season out of him going this route. The man was an MVP candidate only a couple of years ago...Here's hoping he's got something left to offer.
B2 - Agree on Green and Larkin at 24. Larkin's stock has definitely gone up now after measuring out a 44" vertical.

C - Complete agree on Brandon Davies. Some of the guys are saying we may not have the $3M to use for a draft pick; that we used our cash allotment bringing Felton here. I hope that's not true. If it is -- bummer because there are quite a few guys projected to go in the 2nd round that could help us.

D - Not sure I'd even evoke the MLE....We've been burned sooooooooo many times giving the wrong players big money deals, I can't even count all the mistakes anymore..I wouldn't overpay for any of those 3 guys. I'd much rather us take a leap of faith and target more cost-effective players instead to fill holes. I know for a fact we could get similar production for so much less. Out on a limb -- I'd say BETTER production. Just curious btw -- under the new CBA, do we still get to use the MLE? Thought I remember the rules changing for this exception a little but could be wrong.

E - I'd love to keep Cope but even that might be hard now. His agent just went public basically saying his client will go where the money takes him....And good for him -- this kid's been through a lot. He deserves to get paid. I don't even want Smith back anymore, esp. if we have to placate him by signing his brother Chris to a guaranteed contract (a crazy rumor I read somewhere a few weeks ago. That's insane--Jr sucks and has been a complete fraud and letdown and his brother Chris isn't NBA material by a mile). Martin can go too. Dude just isn't a regular steady min player anymore and like Tyson Chandler, is so Goddamn limited himself it isn't even funny. We can do better for less money here also.

F - Agreed.

G - I hate Paul Pierce in particular but regardless - overall, I want to see us break away from this fascination with the older/twilight of their career-type player. We don't need players like that. Boston had more players in the twilight of their careers than we did...We beat them then got beat handily by a team that didn't feature any players like this in the next round. Guys like Kidd, Camby, Martin -- these guys are yesterday's news. Great careers, nothing but respect, but the NBA is a young man's game. It's detrimental to overload on older, past-their-prime talent imo. Pierce is almost done btw -- Shump embarrassed him multiple times that 1st round.

H - Completely agree. I want both off the roster asap. Respect, thanks for the memories, I'll remember both guys fondly but outta here, Jack! Tough seeing them walking away from guaranteed money though. We need to explore buyouts or possibly assimilating either guy right into a front office role somewhere in the hopes that that could entice them to walk away.

BRIGGS wrote:I think in some ways we were close to being there--but obviously not close enough. Boy I was watching that game and I keep thinking that man we were a controversial blocked shot at a dunk away from possibly having a game 7 with a chance to go to the ECF

After thinking about it--we must stay course--but some change is needed. The foundation if the team is Carmelo Shumpert Felton Amare(as new 6th man) The disappointment to me--the reason why this series was lost falls on Chandler. Chandler if he played big--we wouldve won. Thats two years in a row--and now the Knicks have to weigh on the question of can we do this with Chandler? Can Chandler make a commitment to come back and make a 12 foot jumpshot and one post move to expand his game? Will he lift weights and put 10-15 pounds of muscle on a body that was overwhelmed by a bigger man? If he can come in to the office and say I need to work and put on a little weight and strength--add some much needed offense to my repetoire---than keep him. It's easier to go with what you have --it will be hard to trade him right now but it can be done Im sure.

Stay the course plan

A. Decide what we want to do with Chandler--if he commits to putting on 15 pounds of muscle and brings back some offense in terms of one post move and a 14 foot jumpshot--then I say we roll with him. He has to improve he cannot rest on what he has done personally in the NBA--he has to admit he needs to get stronger and come back with a simple form of an offensive game

B Include Amare in a role for 24 minutes as sixth man

B. darft pick 24 we need proven and athletic Larkin Greene Hardaway and I still sticking to Wolters
C Buy a 2nd round pick and go for Branden davies hes athletic 6-10 245 with length perfect 4 size with a skill package

D. Go big with the MLE If it was me I would go very hard after Blatche first Kaman and Dalembart second

E. Resign Copeland Smith and Martin to reasonable contracts if not goodbye

F. See if there is a market for Steve Novak for a trade for a G or draft pick

G Opportunity knocks. If a guy like Paul Pierce became available for the MLE or anything like that--offer team the MLE

H. Get Kidd and camby to retire

Were not far off. Stay the course and try to improve the team. Mandate Chandler to get stronger and come in with post moves. Get Amare on page with a 24 minute 6th man role. Shumpert gets a whole 5 months to get stronger. Get two draft picks who can contribute especially pick 24 to out transition game that has been so bad. Use some money and get a young big PF like davies. Get the best bang for your buck with the MLE start big but lets see who is there.

You posted this after you posted this....

BRIGGS wrote:Im not confident that we can beat the Pacers three in a row. The Pacers are young and will get better next year

The Heat still have Lebron wade and Bosh. The Bulls will have Rose back Younger teams will be up and coming. What does this team do? Were capped out and draft picks are gonzo.

BRIGGS wrote:Ive kind of moved in a different direction
This might be obscure but I have seen teams improve themselves with 2nd round picks immeasurably. We have spent so much cash on players who have ended up either horrible injured and or of no value over the last 10-12 years. We need value going 4 ward and we need to get younger stronger and more athletic and I think we should invest in 2 2's this year beyond our pick. We need to take this draft as an avenue of getting younger tougher faster with an eye of building towards the future as well.

We need an old school 4. While many teams have moved away--you can see in both series that a bruising player works. Id like to see us invest a couple of million and buy two 2nd round draft picks and key on two players

A. Richard Howell PF NCST

B. Ricky Ledo--we do not have a pick next year in what will be the best draft of the last 10 years. While their may be character issues--Ricky is a top 10 type talent basketball wise. I do not believe the 15th man should be a 30 year old. While James White may have helped for a few minutes--his ultimate value is very very low. Look at the example of Lance Stephenson--put a kid in a good situation and set him up for success and he should--if he cant--hes a 2nd round pick. Uconn especially JC has been an unbelievable judge of talent--he called Ricky the next Rudy Gay from the SG position--that type of talent. Thats the type you cultivate--put him in the D league for half the year work on his body and mind and bring him back to the club mid way through the season.

BRIGGS wrote:Tyson Chandler + pick 24 to OKC

for Perkins Lamb and picks 12 and 29

Tyson is a big upgrade for them at C--he averages 9 points more(which should put them over the top--and in their offense he might even get a few more) Perkins is their weak line--they move up 5 spots on their 2nd 1 pick

We take on Perkins as a back up 5 and with Lamb picks 12 and 29 either set ourselves up in the future to get another YOUNG star or just refurbish our current roster with some younger players that can step in right away + also provide a base for the future

BRIGGS wrote:This is mho-- players out

Tyson Chandler out--He hasnt worked here in the playoffs we need something different and we can get fair and reasonable compensation for him--one of our only assets to change the team. Hes also be 32 and has 13 NBA years on him.

Steve Novak--I think we should keep Copeland and trade Novak

Jason Kidd--I cant say more--hes done

Marcus Camby--done

One the fence JR Smith--at this point Im inclined to keep him for 3 years 15mm in the same role and hopefully put other scorers out there so he doesnt feel compelled to take 20 game--Id rather him avg 12 points and get the FG% up.

Kenyon Martin--I like him but I will only pay him what I can and not a dollar more because I need that mini MLE

Pablo Prigioni--Ill keep him but he has to take the 1mm or so as a back up.

Keep

Iman Shumpert--dont play him in game 5 if his knee isnt well. 6 months off he should be a rejuvinated guy.

Carmelo

Amare---My goal with Amare is to get him in the same shape he came into this year and use him as the 24 minute back up 4-5. He CANNOT play more than 24 minutes and we need to rest him like they do Duncan--as in 65-68 games played 24 minutes oer. That 14-5 in 24 minutes is big.

Felton--He played a very decent PG this year

Chris Copeland--I dont want him to exclusively play a 3 pt shooter. He can replace Novak

What we need

a post player on the starting unit who can score to give Melo more room at 4.

A young athletic transition player in the backcourt

A scoring 3 who can help Melo and take pressure of him.

Assets Pick 24 3mm in cash Mini MLE Tyson Chandler Steve Novak

Please let us know when you're finally emotionally stable....

dk7th wrote:knicks have a main guy who you can't build around. it's why the trade back in february 2011 was so very very bad. good enough for 50-55 wins during the regular season but the playoff record for this guy is positively damning. .333 in the postseason remains the worst record of all time but yeah it's always someone else's fault not melo's! melo's a scorer not a complete basketball player. in other words a fool's gold player who is closer to zero-sum than his fans want to ever admit. he scores 39 points but runs out of gas in the 4th quarter of an elimination game.

pretty much agree with this.. people overvalue scoring around here, which is why they tend to overrate carmelo..

tkf wrote:

3G4G wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think in some ways we were close to being there--but obviously not close enough. Boy I was watching that game and I keep thinking that man we were a controversial blocked shot at a dunk away from possibly having a game 7 with a chance to go to the ECF

After thinking about it--we must stay course--but some change is needed. The foundation if the team is Carmelo Shumpert Felton Amare(as new 6th man) The disappointment to me--the reason why this series was lost falls on Chandler. Chandler if he played big--we wouldve won. Thats two years in a row--and now the Knicks have to weigh on the question of can we do this with Chandler? Can Chandler make a commitment to come back and make a 12 foot jumpshot and one post move to expand his game? Will he lift weights and put 10-15 pounds of muscle on a body that was overwhelmed by a bigger man? If he can come in to the office and say I need to work and put on a little weight and strength--add some much needed offense to my repetoire---than keep him. It's easier to go with what you have --it will be hard to trade him right now but it can be done Im sure.

Stay the course plan

A. Decide what we want to do with Chandler--if he commits to putting on 15 pounds of muscle and brings back some offense in terms of one post move and a 14 foot jumpshot--then I say we roll with him. He has to improve he cannot rest on what he has done personally in the NBA--he has to admit he needs to get stronger and come back with a simple form of an offensive game

B Include Amare in a role for 24 minutes as sixth man

B. darft pick 24 we need proven and athletic Larkin Greene Hardaway and I still sticking to Wolters
C Buy a 2nd round pick and go for Branden davies hes athletic 6-10 245 with length perfect 4 size with a skill package

D. Go big with the MLE If it was me I would go very hard after Blatche first Kaman and Dalembart second

E. Resign Copeland Smith and Martin to reasonable contracts if not goodbye

F. See if there is a market for Steve Novak for a trade for a G or draft pick

G Opportunity knocks. If a guy like Paul Pierce became available for the MLE or anything like that--offer team the MLE

H. Get Kidd and camby to retire

Were not far off. Stay the course and try to improve the team. Mandate Chandler to get stronger and come in with post moves. Get Amare on page with a 24 minute 6th man role. Shumpert gets a whole 5 months to get stronger. Get two draft picks who can contribute especially pick 24 to out transition game that has been so bad. Use some money and get a young big PF like davies. Get the best bang for your buck with the MLE start big but lets see who is there.

You posted this after you posted this....

BRIGGS wrote:Im not confident that we can beat the Pacers three in a row. The Pacers are young and will get better next year

The Heat still have Lebron wade and Bosh. The Bulls will have Rose back Younger teams will be up and coming. What does this team do? Were capped out and draft picks are gonzo.

BRIGGS wrote:Ive kind of moved in a different direction
This might be obscure but I have seen teams improve themselves with 2nd round picks immeasurably. We have spent so much cash on players who have ended up either horrible injured and or of no value over the last 10-12 years. We need value going 4 ward and we need to get younger stronger and more athletic and I think we should invest in 2 2's this year beyond our pick. We need to take this draft as an avenue of getting younger tougher faster with an eye of building towards the future as well.

We need an old school 4. While many teams have moved away--you can see in both series that a bruising player works. Id like to see us invest a couple of million and buy two 2nd round draft picks and key on two players

A. Richard Howell PF NCST

B. Ricky Ledo--we do not have a pick next year in what will be the best draft of the last 10 years. While their may be character issues--Ricky is a top 10 type talent basketball wise. I do not believe the 15th man should be a 30 year old. While James White may have helped for a few minutes--his ultimate value is very very low. Look at the example of Lance Stephenson--put a kid in a good situation and set him up for success and he should--if he cant--hes a 2nd round pick. Uconn especially JC has been an unbelievable judge of talent--he called Ricky the next Rudy Gay from the SG position--that type of talent. Thats the type you cultivate--put him in the D league for half the year work on his body and mind and bring him back to the club mid way through the season.

BRIGGS wrote:Tyson Chandler + pick 24 to OKC

for Perkins Lamb and picks 12 and 29

Tyson is a big upgrade for them at C--he averages 9 points more(which should put them over the top--and in their offense he might even get a few more) Perkins is their weak line--they move up 5 spots on their 2nd 1 pick

We take on Perkins as a back up 5 and with Lamb picks 12 and 29 either set ourselves up in the future to get another YOUNG star or just refurbish our current roster with some younger players that can step in right away + also provide a base for the future

BRIGGS wrote:This is mho-- players out

Tyson Chandler out--He hasnt worked here in the playoffs we need something different and we can get fair and reasonable compensation for him--one of our only assets to change the team. Hes also be 32 and has 13 NBA years on him.

Steve Novak--I think we should keep Copeland and trade Novak

Jason Kidd--I cant say more--hes done

Marcus Camby--done

One the fence JR Smith--at this point Im inclined to keep him for 3 years 15mm in the same role and hopefully put other scorers out there so he doesnt feel compelled to take 20 game--Id rather him avg 12 points and get the FG% up.

Kenyon Martin--I like him but I will only pay him what I can and not a dollar more because I need that mini MLE

Pablo Prigioni--Ill keep him but he has to take the 1mm or so as a back up.

Keep

Iman Shumpert--dont play him in game 5 if his knee isnt well. 6 months off he should be a rejuvinated guy.

Carmelo

Amare---My goal with Amare is to get him in the same shape he came into this year and use him as the 24 minute back up 4-5. He CANNOT play more than 24 minutes and we need to rest him like they do Duncan--as in 65-68 games played 24 minutes oer. That 14-5 in 24 minutes is big.

Felton--He played a very decent PG this year

Chris Copeland--I dont want him to exclusively play a 3 pt shooter. He can replace Novak

What we need

a post player on the starting unit who can score to give Melo more room at 4.

A young athletic transition player in the backcourt

A scoring 3 who can help Melo and take pressure of him.

Assets Pick 24 3mm in cash Mini MLE Tyson Chandler Steve Novak

Please let us know when you're finally emotionally stable....

yea, briggs is all over the place.....

I said the same exact thing. We stay the course but retool the bench. We ask Tyson to improve or we look at best scenario trades. We define Amamre s role. We get two play now draft picks. We sign our own guys to reasonable contracts. We use the MLE on the best place we can go with it--Id like Blatche but you need to be opportunistic Kidd and Camby are done--lets work that way instead of having 2 roster spots taken by guys who have nothing---dump it. We need to enhance and improve--its the easiest way to get better.