The avg fan in NY saw something in Copeland that our head coach should have seen to help open things up and spread the floor.

Coach Woodson sat Novak because he couldn't get it done which was clear to everyone and his poor defense would magnify him being exposed on the court.

But the question was who did we replace him with in the playoffs ?

The coach didn't have enough of confidence in Copeland to alleviate some of the pressure off Carmelo Anthony and free up Felton more to penetrate and score or dish the rock.

You could never have enough 3 point shooters because there would be nights when our scorers wasn't scoring on a regular clip.

That one substitution caused this team some games against the Pacers.

Indiana didn't hold out of the series anybody who could be an addition to help them win games.

Why did Woodson wait so long to insert Copeland into the series, this is where we lost confidence in our shooting.

Now to make it so bad , even when Copeland knocked down a needed 3 , Woodson pulled him out of the game.

The announcers were being passive with coach Woodson, instead of insisting on an explanation on why guys who weren't giving the team hope actually help steal momentum from the Knicks team with poor play.

This is why the Knicks aren't scheduled to play the Miami Heat next week.

This team was built one way, it was built to have different components(specialist) come together and help us win games.
When Woodson didn't utilize one of the components the team suffered.

We as fans continued to look to see how we would squeeze water out of a rock with Woodson rotations. I don't know how Woodson slept at night, knowing if any other player would have played as bad as Kidd played (o pts) in playoffs they would have been benched indefinitely.

He made so many mistakes, I'll rue the moment they say he isbt going anywhere.

We should be looking for a new coach by now if we have any hope of making a long playoff run.

holfresh wrote:Indy was the better team because the score says so...They had 5 guys that could drop 25 pts on any given night...They played better defense and they were hungrier...They embarrassed us on the boards...Thats hustle...Melo and Shump were the only Hungry Knicks...Maybe Cope..We lost and we have to live with that..Lets get players in here who are hungry and want to win...

How can you honestly say that when we had a guy who would have made a difference in the series if he was put into the games.

You can't show what you got to help your team win by sitting on the bench.

Players don't check into the game, the coach has to put them in.

If Copeland played in ALL THE games in this series, we would have won this matchup , they had no match for him with Melo Felton, JR or Shump in the game.

People were saying "Melo needs help" HE HAD HELP ON THE BENCH AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SERIES !

No other knicks shots was hitting the bottom of the net and quieting the pacers crowd like Chris Copeland.

Then on the other hand he played guys who gave us nothing more minutes than they deserved.

playa2 wrote:And here's why.

The avg fan in NY saw something in Copeland that our head coach should have seen to help open things up and spread the floor.

Coach Woodson sat Novak because he couldn't get it done which was clear to everyone and his poor defense would magnify him being exposed on the court.

But the question was who did we replace him with in the playoffs ?

The coach didn't have enough of confidence in Copeland to alleviate some of the pressure off Carmelo Anthony and free up Felton more to penetrate and score or dish the rock.

You could never have enough 3 point shooters because there would be nights when our scorers wasn't scoring on a regular clip.

That one substitution caused this team some games against the Pacers.

Indiana didn't hold out of the series anybody who could be an addition to help them win games.

Why did Woodson wait so long to insert Copeland into the series, this is where we lost confidence in our shooting.

Now to make it so bad , even when Copeland knocked down a needed 3 , Woodson pulled him out of the game.

The announcers were being passive with coach Woodson, instead of insisting on an explanation on why guys who weren't giving the team hope actually help steal momentum from the Knicks team with poor play.

This is why the Knicks aren't scheduled to play the Miami Heat next week.

This team was built one way, it was built to have different components(specialist) come together and help us win games.
When Woodson didn't utilize one of the components the team suffered.

We as fans continued to look to see how we would squeeze water out of a rock with Woodson rotations. I don't know how Woodson slept at night, knowing if any other player would have played as bad as Kidd played (o pts) in playoffs they would have been benched indefinitely.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

playa2 wrote:And here's why.

The avg fan in NY saw something in Copeland that our head coach should have seen to help open things up and spread the floor.

Coach Woodson sat Novak because he couldn't get it done which was clear to everyone and his poor defense would magnify him being exposed on the court.

But the question was who did we replace him with in the playoffs ?

The coach didn't have enough of confidence in Copeland to alleviate some of the pressure off Carmelo Anthony and free up Felton more to penetrate and score or dish the rock.

You could never have enough 3 point shooters because there would be nights when our scorers wasn't scoring on a regular clip.

That one substitution caused this team some games against the Pacers.

Indiana didn't hold out of the series anybody who could be an addition to help them win games.

Why did Woodson wait so long to insert Copeland into the series, this is where we lost confidence in our shooting.

Now to make it so bad , even when Copeland knocked down a needed 3 , Woodson pulled him out of the game.

The announcers were being passive with coach Woodson, instead of insisting on an explanation on why guys who weren't giving the team hope actually help steal momentum from the Knicks team with poor play.

This is why the Knicks aren't scheduled to play the Miami Heat next week.

This team was built one way, it was built to have different components(specialist) come together and help us win games.
When Woodson didn't utilize one of the components the team suffered.

We as fans continued to look to see how we would squeeze water out of a rock with Woodson rotations. I don't know how Woodson slept at night, knowing if any other player would have played as bad as Kidd played (o pts) in playoffs they would have been benched indefinitely.

I agree with you just a very little bit. When the Knicks play their best and show effort then they are better than Indy. unfotrunetly the knicks didnt show up in games 1 3 and 4.

Are you one who's saying Copeland wouldn't have brought energy and scoring in games 1,3,4 ?

AnubisADL wrote:

playa2 wrote:We had the better players and more experienced players , they weren't inserted into the game when we needed them the most.

Then on the other hand he played guys who gave us nothing more minutes than they deserved.

Who are these players?

felton is better then hill

melo is better then paul G

shump is better then lance

amare when healthy IS BETTER THEN west

prigs is better then DJ

cope is better then mihimini (what ever his name is)

Vogel is better then woodson, and he prepared his team more, and got them to play smarter through preparation..

OUR biggest advantage was our bench, and we failed to use it

knicks1248 wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

playa2 wrote:We had the better players and more experienced players , they weren't inserted into the game when we needed them the most.

Then on the other hand he played guys who gave us nothing more minutes than they deserved.

Who are these players?

felton is better then hill

melo is better then paul G

shump is better then lance

amare when healthy IS BETTER THEN west

prigs is better then DJ

cope is better then mihimini (what ever his name is)

Vogel is better then woodson, and he prepared his team more, and got them to play smarter through preparation..

OUR biggest advantage was our bench, and we failed to use it

Felton is not better than Hill..
Prigs is not better than DJ
Amare is hurt
Cope didn't get major time in the season and was missing lots of assignments in defense..Did you notice that every Knick player was yelling at him at one point or another in the series..Did you see Amare screaming at Copland and he just got int the game...Amare the defensive stall worth...There is a lot more to playing n an NBA game than hitting a three...

U familiar with the term spin...

knicks1248 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

holfresh wrote:Indy was the better team because the score says so...They had 5 guys that could drop 25 pts on any given night...They played better defense and they were hungrier...They embarrassed us on the boards...Thats hustle...Melo and Shump were the only Hungry Knicks...Maybe Cope..We lost and we have to live with that..Lets get players in here who are hungry and want to win...

It seems like you turn a complete blind eye on woodsons moves, and shifted to we need better players

then you shift complete blame on MDA saying he couldn't get max effort from his sub par players..

Not at all..Woodson had a bad series..But not for the reasons most are posting here...MDA made horrible moves in the Boston series from time outs n big game situations, to when not to foul in certain situation to play calling in the playoffs..Woodson bad moves weren't as blatant as MDA's screw ups...But really how many people expected 73-34 since becoming coach and getting to the second seed??..Does that matter???

you think MDA lost to the C's because of not calling time outs or when to foul..what a joke

what about rondo making TD looking like he didn't belong in the NBA at all, what about the injuries to JJ, Amare, billups.

Why does woodson get a pass for being dismantle by the heat in the 1st round last season, but MDA gets hammered for having less talent

MDA had three seasons to prepare for that ...Woodson had 24 games ...I don't blame MDA for the loss of that series..But I did see he was overmatched for the task at hand...