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Even At 100 Per Cent, Amare Cannot Play the Frenetic Defense That Coach Woodson Demands
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misterearl
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5/8/2013  6:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/8/2013  6:43 PM
... Or can he?


The Knicks’ coordinated, scrambling defense in Game 2 was effective, but more for how it executed than for the ingenuity of the scheme. The Pacers will no doubt respond Saturday with their own adjustments. For instance, sending more cutters to the basket when the Knicks are rotating will make it tougher to cut off passes to the perimeter. - Beckley Mason, NYT (all italics)

The switches and rotations demand instant recognition, but more important, lateral quickness. The feet must always be moving like a featherweight boxer. The hands also must be active, as defections are the only rewards for extra effort. Lateral quickness.

If turnovers are the Pacers’ fatal flaw, inconsistency has been the bane of the Knicks’ defense all season. Having surrendered home-court advantage, it will take a string of disciplined, intelligent games to overcome the Pacers, whose top-ranked defense has not missed a beat all season.
Game 2 offers a blueprint for how the Knicks’ defense can disrupt and befuddle the turnover-prone Pacers, but even fulfilling it is not a guarantee of victory.

Transition basketball and treating every possession with care. Stoudemire must know what he wants tondo with the ball in advance. His compatibility with Melo would be perfect, if there was a 48 second shot clock.

The Pacers still found good shots when they were able to elude the double teams. Despite 15 turnovers through the first three quarters, the Pacers were right in the game until their catastrophic meltdown in the fourth.

Nice timeout coach Vogel. We who are about to take a well-deserved nap, salute you.

Amare can sit with Quentin Richardson and enjoy the view.

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5/8/2013  6:43 PM
misterearl wrote:... Or can he?


The Knicks’ coordinated, scrambling defense in Game 2 was effective, but more for how it executed than for the ingenuity of the scheme. The Pacers will no doubt respond Saturday with their own adjustments. For instance, sending more cutters to the basket when the Knicks are rotating will make it tougher to cut off passes to the perimeter.

The switches and rotations demand instant recognition, but more important, lateral quickness. The feet must always be moving like a featherweight boxer. The hands also must be active, as defections are the only rewards for extra effort. Lateral quickness.

If turnovers are the Pacers’ fatal flaw, inconsistency has been the bane of the Knicks’ defense all season. Having surrendered home-court advantage, it will take a string of disciplined, intelligent games to overcome the Pacers, whose top-ranked defense has not missed a beat all season.
Game 2 offers a blueprint for how the Knicks’ defense can disrupt and befuddle the turnover-prone Pacers, but even fulfilling it is not a guarantee of victory.

Transition basketball and treating every possession with care. Stoudemire must know what he wants tondo with the ball in advance. His compatibility with Melo would be perfect, if there was a 48 second shot clock.

The Pacers still found good shots when they were able to elude the double teams. Despite 15 turnovers through the first three quarters, the Pacers were right in the game until their catastrophic meltdown in the fourth.

Nice timeout coach Vogel. We who are about to take a well-deserved nap, salute you.

Amare can sit with Quentin Richardson and enjoy the view.

Defense


Amares decision making with that ball has always been relatively quick. Its the decisions that he ends up making that get him in trouble sometimes.
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5/8/2013  6:44 PM
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5/8/2013  6:48 PM
I 100% agree with you about his defense. His lack of awareness is a HUGE problem. Woodson seemed patient with him the first time he returned though so I dont think he'll get benched immediately following a couple of lapses.
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5/8/2013  7:17 PM
STAT wont be an issue..He won't get the playing time...But key for us is limiting the open looks on the perimeter...The Pacers hit a lot of open looks late in the shot clock in game one that killed us...They aren't a good perimeter shooting team and we can't let them gain confidence...

Their guards aren't good at creating for their bigs whose offense they rely on, thus the turnovers ...But the guards do get a lot of late looks in the shot clock....We have to limit those open looks...
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5/8/2013  7:20 PM
Amar'e, that's Amar'e,

guy is clueless on defense, but we can use his 80% fg shooting and 10-15 points off the benchc

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5/8/2013  8:22 PM
All im asking for from Amare is some interior scoring, With JR on sabbatical we need more scoring. also another big body to get some boards will help
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5/8/2013  8:34 PM
I would really like Woodson to hold off and bring in Amare in in game 5 like MJax did in Golden State with Lee when they took out the Nuggets. Maybe the last minute of the first half or something. I don't think he can integrate himself in a way that won't harm the team unless there is a blowout where he can get rid of some of the rust.
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5/9/2013  7:13 AM
we need about 15 minutes from Amare to boost our second unit. If JR was shooting well then we would not need Amare, but since JR is misfiring, we need a boost to our offense. Amare should play, and I think he will help more than he hurts us.
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5/9/2013  9:55 AM
Since I'm getting what amounts to painful radiation treatments from Spero Adidas and his sidekick, they constantly moan and gripe about the second quarter, and not finishing strong going into halftime.

Can Rust-Stat offer anything with some booster minutes in the second quarter to reverse that particular trend?

Defense - No
Boards - No
Short Range J - Yes

I honestly don't see what he's going to provide.


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5/9/2013  10:18 AM

What does Chandler and Kmart give us on offense? Not much.

We have seen Amare Play good defense in the last 5 min of a game.

Amare can play 2.5 min in first half, and the same in teh second. He don't get the ball unless wide open. He is just there to get his feet wet and a feel for the game. Lower the bar and work him in slowly.

Lets put it this way, a healthy in synch Amare even as a role player is our best bet against Miami. If we can rotate Chander, Camby, Kmart and Amre in some function we might have a chance.

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5/9/2013  10:32 AM
IronWillGiroud wrote:Amar'e, that's Amar'e,

guy is clueless on defense, but we can use his 80% fg shooting and 10-15 points off the benchc

Exactly. He can't defend but, if he CAN'T be defender either, it's a wash. If dude can produce in his 15MINUTES, then we can complain. He wasn't hurting us on defense before this latest procedure. If anything, he was putting more effort into Defense than I have ever seen in him before

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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5/9/2013  10:37 AM
jrodmc wrote:Since I'm getting what amounts to painful radiation treatments from Spero Adidas and his sidekick, they constantly moan and gripe about the second quarter, and not finishing strong going into halftime.

Can Rust-Stat offer anything with some booster minutes in the second quarter to reverse that particular trend?

Defense - No
Boards - No
Short Range J - Yes

I honestly don't see what he's going to provide.


Hide the fire extinguishers.

low post scoring - his work with Olajuwon paid off... if he can bang with Hibbert and get him to pick up an extra foul or two, that's a huge advantage

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5/9/2013  10:39 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Since I'm getting what amounts to painful radiation treatments from Spero Adidas and his sidekick, they constantly moan and gripe about the second quarter, and not finishing strong going into halftime.

Can Rust-Stat offer anything with some booster minutes in the second quarter to reverse that particular trend?

Defense - No
Boards - No
Short Range J - Yes

I honestly don't see what he's going to provide.


Hide the fire extinguishers.

low post scoring - his work with Olajuwon paid off... if he can bang with Hibbert and get him to pick up an extra foul or two, that's a huge advantage


Agreed.

Also, the Pacers have quick rotating guards who close out quickly and rarely need to double down, so our shooters basically have 0 daylight and that is our bread and butter and has been all season. With Amar'e even as a threat on the block during limited minutes would, at the very least, enable the shooters a bit more time when guards begin to cheat to get some solid open looks and I know one guy on this team that would probably benefit from this - JR.

Just getting JR outta his menstrual cycle would all but end this series.

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5/9/2013  10:52 AM
Amare can provide high % shots from almost anywhere on the floor (in part due to his height but also his more refined post up game), finish, draw fouls, help with spacing, run the floor in transition.

Adding another player to the mix will also provide a different look on offense and defense and force Indy to make additional adjustments. We could potentially go with a huge lineup for stretches... with Chandler/Amare/KMart/Anthony/Shump. That'd be sure to screw up Indiana's plans. (though I certainly wouldn't bet we'd ever see that lineup!)

This could be both a positive and negative thing, as his teammates will also need to make adjustments.

In a long series, adding another catalyst can only help keep the team from becoming too predictable. I believe the Celtics began to figure us out in the 1st round... so having another potentially dominant player makes the Knicks equation tougher to find answers to.

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5/9/2013  4:35 PM
At this point in his career, any defense from Amare would be a bonus.

If he could provide any of this though, it would be PHENOMENAL!

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5/9/2013  4:51 PM
Does he have "Theme" yet? Skinny Amre? Corn Row Amare? Jewish Amre? RasTatMar'e?

Maybe Lock down "D" Amare? "D'Amare"!!!!

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5/10/2013  11:40 AM
high % shots win playoff games. If we get anything like he was providing off the bench prior Knicks will make a nice run here.
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5/10/2013  12:00 PM
Nalod wrote:Does he have "Theme" yet? Skinny Amre? Corn Row Amare? Jewish Amre? RasTatMar'e?

Maybe Lock down "D" Amare? "D'Amare"!!!!

Too funny.

Never really thought about it, but he does have that WWE theme thing going. Hahahaaa

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5/10/2013  2:23 PM
Highlights from Ol' Boston, Orlando, the Bobcats??? and Portland don't add much in the way confidence for doing that against 4 additional inches Hibbert brings.

Those knees ain't springing like it's 2004.

Hope and pray for the mid range jumper and a few nice passes to Chandler for easy dunks. Add 5-6 rebounds and 1 or 2 really noisy blocks, and it's Christmas/Channukah in May!

Even At 100 Per Cent, Amare Cannot Play the Frenetic Defense That Coach Woodson Demands

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