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BRIGGS
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5/6/2013  4:00 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/6/2013  4:02 PM
For Greg smith and pick 34
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5/6/2013  4:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/6/2013  4:05 PM
No thanks. I rather package the pick and get something good.

I rather grab Jeremy Tyler for FREE.

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5/6/2013  4:09 PM
Smith has played very well I'm sure Morey realizes it. Can't imagine he'd give Smith up just to move from 34 to 24.
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5/6/2013  4:54 PM
BRIGGS wrote:For Greg smith and pick 34


We Can't trade out of the 1rst round BRIGGS....WHY?


Denver has our 2014 Pick
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5/6/2013  4:59 PM
How about 24 + Novak, and Kidd's soon to be retired contract + cash for Jeremy Lin + Greg Smith??
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5/6/2013  5:07 PM
3G4G wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:For Greg smith and pick 34


We Can't trade out of the 1rst round BRIGGS....WHY?


Denver has our 2014 Pick

We can, we would have to choose a player for the other team and then trade the rights to that player.

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5/6/2013  5:21 PM
not a bad deal BRIGGS. Id sign up for that. smith is VERY underated. I also like J.Tyler too. no reason we cant get both
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5/6/2013  7:16 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Smith has played very well I'm sure Morey realizes it. Can't imagine he'd give Smith up just to move from 34 to 24.

Id take Smith for just the 24-the thing about the Rockets--they cant sign Smith the following year-theyre at 51mm and they want to sign a max FA + they already have jones montenjuauas Robinson Asik and thye want Howard. They guy is smart at math--theyll figure out they are not keeping smith.

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5/6/2013  7:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/6/2013  8:00 PM
VCoug wrote:
3G4G wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:For Greg smith and pick 34


We Can't trade out of the 1rst round BRIGGS....WHY?


Denver has our 2014 Pick

We can, we would have to choose a player for the other team and then trade the rights to that player.

We have to stay in the first round, although we can trade the pick.


We can trade our 24th to move up or down in the 1rst round.


The Ted Stepien rule prohibits the Knicks from trading their 2011 first-round draft pick, because their 2012 pick was traded to the Houston Rockets as part of the Tracy McGrady deal.

For instance, since the Knicks have traded their 2012 first-round pick to Houston, they aren't allowed to trade their 2013 first-rounder unless they receive a first-round pick (for either '12 or '13) in return. However, following the 2012 draft, the Knicks regain the right to trade that 2013 first-rounder, since their '12 first-rounder is no longer considered a future pick.

Otherwise what you're saying is Shumpert could have been traded in 2011 and he couldn't because we owed our 2012 to Houston.


We can do what you're suggesting only after we've made the pick and the 30-60days have passed by
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5/6/2013  11:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/6/2013  11:01 PM
For a team with no youth, not keeping our own first rounder this year would be paramount to insanity. I guess you could argue trading for someone 26 or younger, but I think we need to start keeping our picks.
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5/6/2013  11:46 PM
I'd rather get Josh McRoberts or someone like him and keep the pick.
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5/7/2013  10:13 AM
technomaster wrote:How about 24 + Novak, and Kidd's soon to be retired contract + cash for Jeremy Lin + Greg Smith??

Morey would actually consider this trade if you added Cope into the deal. Novak and Cope would flourish in the Rockets system.
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5/7/2013  10:17 AM
3G4G wrote:
VCoug wrote:
3G4G wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:For Greg smith and pick 34


We Can't trade out of the 1rst round BRIGGS....WHY?


Denver has our 2014 Pick

We can, we would have to choose a player for the other team and then trade the rights to that player.

We have to stay in the first round, although we can trade the pick.


We can trade our 24th to move up or down in the 1rst round.


The Ted Stepien rule prohibits the Knicks from trading their 2011 first-round draft pick, because their 2012 pick was traded to the Houston Rockets as part of the Tracy McGrady deal.

For instance, since the Knicks have traded their 2012 first-round pick to Houston, they aren't allowed to trade their 2013 first-rounder unless they receive a first-round pick (for either '12 or '13) in return. However, following the 2012 draft, the Knicks regain the right to trade that 2013 first-rounder, since their '12 first-rounder is no longer considered a future pick.

Otherwise what you're saying is Shumpert could have been traded in 2011 and he couldn't because we owed our 2012 to Houston.


We can do what you're suggesting only after we've made the pick and the 30-60days have passed by

This has been explained over and over and over again. You can select a player, and then subsequently trade.

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5/7/2013  10:20 AM
Solace wrote:For a team with no youth, not keeping our own first rounder this year would be paramount to insanity. I guess you could argue trading for someone 26 or younger, but I think we need to start keeping our picks.

Smith is 22. As far as the youth movement is concerned, it doesn't really make a difference if we draft a guy in his early 20s or trade for one in his early 20s. The only difference is that there's less uncertainty with the latter because we've already seen the player in NBA games.
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5/7/2013  10:26 AM
I don't think we trade with the Rockets for many years- think they're in Dolan bad books
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5/7/2013  10:28 AM
smackeddog wrote:I don't think we trade with the Rockets for many years- think they're in Dolan bad books

That's a good point. Frankly, I wouldn't want to make a trade with Morey. You shouldn't make a trade with someone smarter than you. It's like trying to fight a bear.
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5/7/2013  10:28 AM
smackeddog wrote:I don't think we trade with the Rockets for many years- think they're in Dolan bad books

Sad but might be true. One of the reasons Dolan will always **** this team up.
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5/7/2013  10:46 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:I don't think we trade with the Rockets for many years- think they're in Dolan bad books

That's a good point. Frankly, I wouldn't want to make a trade with Morey. You shouldn't make a trade with someone smarter than you. It's like trying to fight a bear.

he is not perfect. You still don't know if Robinson was a good move or Lin and White.
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5/7/2013  11:23 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:I don't think we trade with the Rockets for many years- think they're in Dolan bad books

That's a good point. Frankly, I wouldn't want to make a trade with Morey. You shouldn't make a trade with someone smarter than you. It's like trying to fight a bear.

he is not perfect. You still don't know if Robinson was a good move or Lin and White.


Of course he's not perfect but those are all pretty minor moves. Houston is not in the luxury tax and 3 years $25 mil is a reasonable gamble for Lin. Don't forget that they cleared cap space to try to get Dwight Howard and once that didn't work, Lin and Asik were the best options left. I'm not sure what he had in mind with the Patterson move. That one surprised me. Maybe he didn't want to pay Patterson when his rookie deal expired, although I doubt Patterson would have gotten that much. Who is White?
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