tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Curry was the difference between Denver and GS, even with Lee not playing most of the series. Denver is built for regular season success with a lot of weapons and an up and down game, but when it comes playoffs the game slows down and teams need go-to stars to win grind-it-out games. This is why having Melo and continuing to build around him is so important win or lose this series. And this is also why you can never count out Boston, because Pierce and Garnett can still play like the superstars they once were for the majority of a playoff series. If they can squeeze into the playoffs they will always give a fight, and that's what we are seeing. And getting back to Golden State, i believe as long as Curry stays healthy GS will be a playoff mainstay because he has finally turned the corner into stardom. Still so disappointed we were one pick off from him on draft night back in 2009.

this is where your argument fails.. when was that series a grind it out series? scores were well into the 100's..

And why are we struggling in grind it out games? You are now going to use the argument that Garnett and pierce are playing like superstars? come on man... Denver lost because they didn't defend like they could, and Golden state played their game better than denver did for the most part.. didn't help that denver was missing gallanari but this series was about guard play, sometimes a team can present a matchup problem.. plain and simple... both are young teams with room to grow...

Pierce took over in game 5 and Curry has taken over all series. Stars win in the playoffs plain and simple. Denver doesn't have that. Fortunately, we do.

And grind it out doesn't necessarily mean low scoring. It means having better opportunities to take advantage of every possession on offense and playing better defense.

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Curry was the difference between Denver and GS, even with Lee not playing most of the series. Denver is built for regular season success with a lot of weapons and an up and down game, but when it comes playoffs the game slows down and teams need go-to stars to win grind-it-out games. This is why having Melo and continuing to build around him is so important win or lose this series. And this is also why you can never count out Boston, because Pierce and Garnett can still play like the superstars they once were for the majority of a playoff series. If they can squeeze into the playoffs they will always give a fight, and that's what we are seeing. And getting back to Golden State, i believe as long as Curry stays healthy GS will be a playoff mainstay because he has finally turned the corner into stardom. Still so disappointed we were one pick off from him on draft night back in 2009.

this is where your argument fails.. when was that series a grind it out series? scores were well into the 100's..

And why are we struggling in grind it out games? You are now going to use the argument that Garnett and pierce are playing like superstars? come on man... Denver lost because they didn't defend like they could, and Golden state played their game better than denver did for the most part.. didn't help that denver was missing gallanari but this series was about guard play, sometimes a team can present a matchup problem.. plain and simple... both are young teams with room to grow...

Pierce took over in game 5 and Curry has taken over all series. Stars win in the playoffs plain and simple. Denver doesn't have that. Fortunately, we do.

And grind it out doesn't mean low scoring. It means having better opportunities to take advantage of every possession on offense and playing better defense.

Stars win in the playoffs plain and simple. Denver doesn't have that. Fortunately, we do.

so when we don't win it all, does that mean we don't have a star? why didn't we win last year?

your argument is flawed...

In the end, the league has about 4 stars.. we don't have one... GSW don't have one, Denver doesn't have one, the nets don't have one..... so basically you are admitting that the finals will be decided between, harden, durant, Duncan, pierce or lebron?

Of course my argument is flawed, no argument isn't. My point was i truly believe it was the difference in that series. And i consider Melo, Curry, as well as about 10 or 12 other players in this league to be stars. You don't, so let's agree to disagree on that. I just believe you need a closer/go-to scorer/star to win moreso in the playoffs and teams that lack this get exposed. There are a hundred other reasons they could have lost too, but this is a huge difference i see between playoffs and regular season. Again, not trying to create a flawless argument, just pointing out what i have seen in this series.

LMFAO.

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Curry was the difference between Denver and GS, even with Lee not playing most of the series. Denver is built for regular season success with a lot of weapons and an up and down game, but when it comes playoffs the game slows down and teams need go-to stars to win grind-it-out games. This is why having Melo and continuing to build around him is so important win or lose this series. And this is also why you can never count out Boston, because Pierce and Garnett can still play like the superstars they once were for the majority of a playoff series. If they can squeeze into the playoffs they will always give a fight, and that's what we are seeing. And getting back to Golden State, i believe as long as Curry stays healthy GS will be a playoff mainstay because he has finally turned the corner into stardom. Still so disappointed we were one pick off from him on draft night back in 2009.

this is where your argument fails.. when was that series a grind it out series? scores were well into the 100's..

And why are we struggling in grind it out games? You are now going to use the argument that Garnett and pierce are playing like superstars? come on man... Denver lost because they didn't defend like they could, and Golden state played their game better than denver did for the most part.. didn't help that denver was missing gallanari but this series was about guard play, sometimes a team can present a matchup problem.. plain and simple... both are young teams with room to grow...

Pierce took over in game 5 and Curry has taken over all series. Stars win in the playoffs plain and simple. Denver doesn't have that. Fortunately, we do.

And grind it out doesn't mean low scoring. It means having better opportunities to take advantage of every possession on offense and playing better defense.

Stars win in the playoffs plain and simple. Denver doesn't have that. Fortunately, we do.

so when we don't win it all, does that mean we don't have a star? why didn't we win last year?

your argument is flawed...

In the end, the league has about 4 stars.. we don't have one... GSW don't have one, Denver doesn't have one, the nets don't have one..... so basically you are admitting that the finals will be decided between, harden, durant, Duncan, pierce or lebron?

What's the cause and what's the effect? I need to have a car to get to work. If I don't get to work, it doesn't necessarily mean I don't have a car.

MaTT4281 wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Curry was the difference between Denver and GS, even with Lee not playing most of the series. Denver is built for regular season success with a lot of weapons and an up and down game, but when it comes playoffs the game slows down and teams need go-to stars to win grind-it-out games. This is why having Melo and continuing to build around him is so important win or lose this series. And this is also why you can never count out Boston, because Pierce and Garnett can still play like the superstars they once were for the majority of a playoff series. If they can squeeze into the playoffs they will always give a fight, and that's what we are seeing. And getting back to Golden State, i believe as long as Curry stays healthy GS will be a playoff mainstay because he has finally turned the corner into stardom. Still so disappointed we were one pick off from him on draft night back in 2009.

this is where your argument fails.. when was that series a grind it out series? scores were well into the 100's..

And why are we struggling in grind it out games? You are now going to use the argument that Garnett and pierce are playing like superstars? come on man... Denver lost because they didn't defend like they could, and Golden state played their game better than denver did for the most part.. didn't help that denver was missing gallanari but this series was about guard play, sometimes a team can present a matchup problem.. plain and simple... both are young teams with room to grow...

Pierce took over in game 5 and Curry has taken over all series. Stars win in the playoffs plain and simple. Denver doesn't have that. Fortunately, we do.

And grind it out doesn't mean low scoring. It means having better opportunities to take advantage of every possession on offense and playing better defense.

Stars win in the playoffs plain and simple. Denver doesn't have that. Fortunately, we do.

so when we don't win it all, does that mean we don't have a star? why didn't we win last year?

your argument is flawed...

In the end, the league has about 4 stars.. we don't have one... GSW don't have one, Denver doesn't have one, the nets don't have one..... so basically you are admitting that the finals will be decided between, harden, durant, Duncan, pierce or lebron?

What's the cause and what's the effect? I need to have a car to get to work. If I don't get to work, it doesn't necessarily mean I don't have a car.

you are pretty much defending , my point... I don't think you realize that..

3G4G wrote:GSW was missing Lee and Denver Gallo so we still don't know how things would have played out teams at full strength but big up to GSW. No excuses on who was playing and who was not playing. GSW beat them fair and square.

It only supports the few who said young teams are on the rise...GSW and Rockets who are still alive are evidence of this. Denver will return

Bingo!!

AnubisADL wrote:

3G4G wrote:GSW was missing Lee and Denver Gallo so we still don't know how things would have played out teams at full strength but big up to GSW. No excuses on who was playing and who was not playing. GSW beat them fair and square.

It only supports the few who said young teams are on the rise...GSW and Rockets who are still alive are evidence of this. Denver will return

Young teams are always on the rise because they have low expectations.

Washington Wizards were on the rise.
Philadelphia 76ers were on the rise.
Chicago Bulls were on the rise.

Teams got hyped then faded to black. Chicago is the exception because they got lucky and picked up Derrick Rose. Noah, Hinrch, Deng were the future once upon a time.

you are on the rise because of your play and what you do, not expectations...

wizards were never on the rise...

if you support the knicks and the geriatric movement that is fine,some of us preferred a different direction... but these young teams, Houston, Denver, GS, OKC, Indiana, chicago all of those teams are the future of the NBA.. get used to it...

These veteran teams, like boston, LA, etc are no longer dominant, can they pull out a final run in a series, yes, but their time dwindling.. these young teams will replace them.... miami because their star player is still young( and the best in the business)will be one of the few veteran teams that will stay atop...

tkf wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Curry was the difference between Denver and GS, even with Lee not playing most of the series. Denver is built for regular season success with a lot of weapons and an up and down game, but when it comes playoffs the game slows down and teams need go-to stars to win grind-it-out games. This is why having Melo and continuing to build around him is so important win or lose this series. And this is also why you can never count out Boston, because Pierce and Garnett can still play like the superstars they once were for the majority of a playoff series. If they can squeeze into the playoffs they will always give a fight, and that's what we are seeing. And getting back to Golden State, i believe as long as Curry stays healthy GS will be a playoff mainstay because he has finally turned the corner into stardom. Still so disappointed we were one pick off from him on draft night back in 2009.

this is where your argument fails.. when was that series a grind it out series? scores were well into the 100's..

And why are we struggling in grind it out games? You are now going to use the argument that Garnett and pierce are playing like superstars? come on man... Denver lost because they didn't defend like they could, and Golden state played their game better than denver did for the most part.. didn't help that denver was missing gallanari but this series was about guard play, sometimes a team can present a matchup problem.. plain and simple... both are young teams with room to grow...

Pierce took over in game 5 and Curry has taken over all series. Stars win in the playoffs plain and simple. Denver doesn't have that. Fortunately, we do.

And grind it out doesn't mean low scoring. It means having better opportunities to take advantage of every possession on offense and playing better defense.

Stars win in the playoffs plain and simple. Denver doesn't have that. Fortunately, we do.

so when we don't win it all, does that mean we don't have a star? why didn't we win last year?

your argument is flawed...

In the end, the league has about 4 stars.. we don't have one... GSW don't have one, Denver doesn't have one, the nets don't have one..... so basically you are admitting that the finals will be decided between, harden, durant, Duncan, pierce or lebron?

What's the cause and what's the effect? I need to have a car to get to work. If I don't get to work, it doesn't necessarily mean I don't have a car.

you are pretty much defending , my point... I don't think you realize that..

Not sitting on either side of this fence. I agree that failure does not necessarily mean you don't have a star.

Do I consider anyone on Denver a star? No, but I think they have a lot of guys that are close, and their depth is enough that can lead to playoff success. And yes, I consider Curry a star. Several other factors had to click for that effort to not go in vain, but it's nice to have that one guy to carry you the extra mile when necessary.

Kudos to Curry for having a big series. I picked GS as an upset, like the team, shooters were hot. I'll be rooting for them against SA.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

3G4G wrote:GSW was missing Lee and Denver Gallo so we still don't know how things would have played out teams at full strength but big up to GSW. No excuses on who was playing and who was not playing. GSW beat them fair and square.

It only supports the few who said young teams are on the rise...GSW and Rockets who are still alive are evidence of this. Denver will return

GS and Houston have young and legit stars, which is the biggest reason they're on the rise.

Denver doesn't, which is the biggest reason they're not on the rise.

Okay Denver was never on the rise when Melo was there....so why did we trade for him? He lost repeatedly in the first round. Now we're on our 3rd yr hoping we survive the 1rst round.