israelKnick wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I think he might be able to be a 6th man if he improves on some things. It will be hard to be a 6th man here if Amar'e is healthy next year. Yes, that's a big if but still. Either way If Jr comes back he can move up as a certified starter.

Amare? Healthy? Same sentence?

fitzfarm wrote:I think so the guy can score on will

3 as in SF?

I don't see why not. Gives us more size, and he has the quickness and outside shot to score on most SF's, PF and especially Centers.

With Pablo going down, whats wrong with this lineup?

Felton, Shump, Cope, Melo, Chandler

Melo guards the quick SF and Cope guards the PF, since Cope has slower feet.

gunsnewing wrote:As ive said in the past cope is the perfect backup for melo because you dont lose much offensively when melo goes to the bench. They both score in a variety of ways. Novak is expendable

If cope improves on reb and D he can start one day

But Novak is still a specialist at something. Usually people that specialize in something are not expendable. And now a days, shooting the ball is a lost ark. Everybody is trying to get to the rim and dunk.

Novak is still our best 3pt shooter off the bench. Cope is a better all around scorer. Both have issues on defense. But under Woodson, they will improve on that end and become better all around players. I've already seen a huge improvement in both players.

I also like Flight White, while others don't. So far, he seems like a better option than the new slim down Q. White has proved this season that he can guard Lebron, Pierce types....Q looks even smaller than Shump, which puts him into the undersized SF category.

Flight White is another goon like Q and Shump....with SF size, and shooting range. Cope is too slow to hang with agile SF's, but big enough for the slow foot PF's or Centers....Can he guard Pierce?

blkexec wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:As ive said in the past cope is the perfect backup for melo because you dont lose much offensively when melo goes to the bench. They both score in a variety of ways. Novak is expendable

If cope improves on reb and D he can start one day

But Novak is still a specialist at something. Usually people that specialize in something are not expendable. And now a days, shooting the ball is a lost ark. Everybody is trying to get to the rim and dunk.

Novak is still our best 3pt shooter off the bench. Cope is a better all around scorer. Both have issues on defense. But under Woodson, they will improve on that end and become better all around players. I've already seen a huge improvement in both players.

I also like Flight White, while others don't. So far, he seems like a better option than the new slim down Q. White has proved this season that he can guard Lebron, Pierce types....Q looks even smaller than Shump, which puts him into the undersized SF category.

Flight White is another goon like Q and Shump....with SF size, and shooting range. Cope is too slow to hang with agile SF's, but big enough for the slow foot PF's or Centers....Can he guard Pierce?

misterearl wrote:Shift Du Saturday

Felton - never beautiful, rested and scrappy
Shumpert - at his "natural" off guard position, whatever that means
Copeland - the weapon, pick your poison
Anthony - see above
Chandler - welcome back captain

Earl- picks up Shumpert when needed, highly flammable

Wasn't Shumpert a PG at Georgia Tech?

Eitherway, I like him better at PG or SG.....Don't like him at SF this year, especially since he's still not 100%. I don't think he impacts the game at SF compared to SG. But even when healthly, I rather use him at SG, and surround him with shooters at PG, SF and PF (Felton, Cope, Melo). If you haven't noticed, he's usually the one wide open on his jumpers, along with Chandler. But thats ok, as long as they are impacting our defense.

Next year i see Felton, Shumpert, Smith, Melo, and Chandler starting with Copeland playing major minutes off the bench, possibly replacing Smith as 6th man, particularly if Amare is not healthy.

Panos wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Agreed no one listens when i say Shump is a playmaker. Great handle and court vision. Doesnt mean we need to start him at pg

I will have him run the team saturday over Felton tho with Prigs right

I don't know, man, I was at the game yesterday, and his court vision didn't seem too good. He was passing into Hawks' knees. But I guess Prigs was doing that too... But I'd rather he play SG and let someone else handle the PG.

I was much more interested in his movement off screens than his playmaking ability. He just needs to become a good secondary ball handler and improve his shooting 10 ft and below. Then work on his off ball defense and learn not to foul while defending the ball handler. Some of that will come if his reputation grows as a defender.

Especially since Cope has emerged as a consistent scoring threat off the bench, start JR and have Cope as your 6th man. The second unit would be....

BENCH
Kidd
Q
Cope
Novak
Martin
Camby / Barron

STARTERS
Felton
JR
Shump
Melo
Chandler