Knixkik wrote:I will keep this short. I have been here since the beginning and this is the first time this team has been in first place in the Atlantic and most negative it has ever been in here. You would think that because we were so bad all these years the focus would be on holding the division lead and winning a playoff series instead of the blame game on our stars and how to blow the team up. Any positive talk here is out of place. Some of the comments in these posts are just disturbing. You make a positive comment and people respond "can I have what you are smoking." This isn't right. The injuries add insult to injury but this board is crazy. I know people post here to vent but the "no hope" speech is getting old. Hopefully we can get healthy and get some rhythm going before the playoffs. I consider myself a level headed Knicks fan and will not forfeit to the overwhelming negativity that is the majority here.

Hey man, I know you're trying to be positive in this downturn month. I respect you for that, but some of us tend to hit reality hard and fast. Being first place in division doesn't mean much to most of us because we only see championship as the only salvation to our miserable Knicks fan existence. I know I am, and I've been a fan for over 36 years now. We should keep making positive comments as it is not right to already feel defeated during regular season. However, some of us, including myself, are looking at the chance for next few years and it doesn't look good thanks to Jimmy Dol. Phat contracts and old age and very few picks all the way to 2017. Some of us are just happy we might win division, but I'm sure most of us are eyeing that trophy we should've gotten long ago before Jimmy Dol the musician-wannabe took the team from his dad.

JamesLin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I will keep this short. I have been here since the beginning and this is the first time this team has been in first place in the Atlantic and most negative it has ever been in here. You would think that because we were so bad all these years the focus would be on holding the division lead and winning a playoff series instead of the blame game on our stars and how to blow the team up. Any positive talk here is out of place. Some of the comments in these posts are just disturbing. You make a positive comment and people respond "can I have what you are smoking." This isn't right. The injuries add insult to injury but this board is crazy. I know people post here to vent but the "no hope" speech is getting old. Hopefully we can get healthy and get some rhythm going before the playoffs. I consider myself a level headed Knicks fan and will not forfeit to the overwhelming negativity that is the majority here.

Hey man, I know you're trying to be positive in this downturn month. I respect you for that, but some of us tend to hit reality hard and fast. Being first place in division doesn't mean much to most of us because we only see championship as the only salvation to our miserable Knicks fan existence. I know I am, and I've been a fan for over 36 years now. We should keep making positive comments as it is not right to already feel defeated during regular season. However, some of us, including myself, are looking at the chance for next few years and it doesn't look good thanks to Jimmy Dol. Phat contracts and old age and very few picks all the way to 2017. Some of us are just happy we might win division, but I'm sure most of us are eyeing that trophy we should've gotten long ago before Jimmy Dol the musician-wannabe took the team from his dad.

I absolutely respect that. Title should be the main goal. But some people here would rather see the Knicks and Melo fail just to say I told you so and those are the ones that are really driving this place down. It didn't used to be like that here.

Knixkik wrote:I will keep this short. I have been here since the beginning and this is the first time this team has been in first place in the Atlantic and most negative it has ever been in here. You would think that because we were so bad all these years the focus would be on holding the division lead and winning a playoff series instead of the blame game on our stars and how to blow the team up. Any positive talk here is out of place. Some of the comments in these posts are just disturbing. You make a positive comment and people respond "can I have what you are smoking." This isn't right. The injuries add insult to injury but this board is crazy. I know people post here to vent but the "no hope" speech is getting old. Hopefully we can get healthy and get some rhythm going before the playoffs. I consider myself a level headed Knicks fan and will not forfeit to the overwhelming negativity that is the majority here.

Please dont generalize on any statements made by starksewing1

Knixkik wrote:I will keep this short. I have been here since the beginning and this is the first time this team has been in first place in the Atlantic and most negative it has ever been in here. You would think that because we were so bad all these years the focus would be on holding the division lead and winning a playoff series instead of the blame game on our stars and how to blow the team up. Any positive talk here is out of place. Some of the comments in these posts are just disturbing. You make a positive comment and people respond "can I have what you are smoking." This isn't right. The injuries add insult to injury but this board is crazy. I know people post here to vent but the "no hope" speech is getting old. Hopefully we can get healthy and get some rhythm going before the playoffs. I consider myself a level headed Knicks fan and will not forfeit to the overwhelming negativity that is the majority here.

since dolan has taken over he has driven the knicks into irrelevance. stern gave the knicks fans a break when he interceded on our behalf and forced dolan to bring in a competent man to clean up dolan and thomas's mess. we all waited for two entire years as we saw, for the first time in memory, the team being torn down so that it had a genuine shot at being built from the ground up and the right way.

after those two seasons, we the fans had every right to expect that money would be spent on a franchise player, or if not an outright franchise player, at least a big name. that turned out to be stoudemire. lebron led everyone on and we had to act and walsh did. to not acquire a big name would have been impossible. it would have been brave but it was simply untenable.

the knicks were headed for the playoffs in 2010-2011. at 28-26 they also had a ton of money and they had the nuggets over a barrel. they could have gone 9-19 the rest of the season and they still would have made the playoffs and yes would also have been eliminated in the playoffs.

but they would have had room to build and grow based on who was there-- amare stoudemire. they could have gone another season with felton and then allow his contract to expire while shopping for an upgrade at point guard.

then this season we would still be growing, while remaining a younger team. there would be no pressure or expectation to win now. instaed of youth and energy the knicks are the all-viagra team.

you can't go from roster flush to win-now in the nba without collusion. but the blithe dolan doesn't care about that-- and neither does melo. this comment he made befored the game last night of two to three years of getting his feet wet is total bs. what a crock. shameless!

the knicks are spiraling into irrelevance again. no offense but this was a fool's gold team as of february 2011.

you're upset but make sure you direct your upset in the right direction.

playa2 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I will keep this short. I have been here since the beginning and this is the first time this team has been in first place in the Atlantic and most negative it has ever been in here. You would think that because we were so bad all these years the focus would be on holding the division lead and winning a playoff series instead of the blame game on our stars and how to blow the team up. Any positive talk here is out of place. Some of the comments in these posts are just disturbing. You make a positive comment and people respond "can I have what you are smoking." This isn't right. The injuries add insult to injury but this board is crazy. I know people post here to vent but the "no hope" speech is getting old. Hopefully we can get healthy and get some rhythm going before the playoffs. I consider myself a level headed Knicks fan and will not forfeit to the overwhelming negativity that is the majority here.

I agree, some act as if the neighbors wife who 8-10 yrs younger than his own wife is better to give compliments too. Get a divorce, your wife gave you children and takes care of them, but you yearn for something younger that doesn't have a guarantee to handle pressure when it arises.

Go and root for the rockets and nuggets you can show those fans how much you love those teams.

Not needed here nuff said !

gunsnewing wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I will keep this short. I have been here since the beginning and this is the first time this team has been in first place in the Atlantic and most negative it has ever been in here. You would think that because we were so bad all these years the focus would be on holding the division lead and winning a playoff series instead of the blame game on our stars and how to blow the team up. Any positive talk here is out of place. Some of the comments in these posts are just disturbing. You make a positive comment and people respond "can I have what you are smoking." This isn't right. The injuries add insult to injury but this board is crazy. I know people post here to vent but the "no hope" speech is getting old. Hopefully we can get healthy and get some rhythm going before the playoffs. I consider myself a level headed Knicks fan and will not forfeit to the overwhelming negativity that is the majority here.

Please dont generalize on any statements made by starksewing1

Is that statement not used around here a lot?

2. Somber as we are we recognize after a strong start (designed to neutralize the buzz form BKN?)the division has been weaker than expected. Boston is a suprise, Toronto a disappointment but perhaps brooklyn is about were most thought they'd be.

3. Somberites are not that angry, we kind of never "believed" to being with. The early start was something to build on but some real hard core homers extropolated those wins into the future and counted them as "in the bag".

4. Until Miami turned it up, we were very close to the top of the division. The record was good and Amare "was coming back". All good reasons to be happy and enjoy the games but the looming dread was coming:

A. We old
B. mooby minutes matriculating manifests more malpractice.......(mo' minutes, mo Injury probability
C. Tyson played every game. That don't happen.
D. Kidd could not keep that level of play up?

We are falling into what our record should be. We a good team, just not a real contender.

Anything above that will turn a basically good season into an execptional one.

Homers are crushed and haters revel in their prognostications!

Sombers are centrists and are generally a happier "sect" of Knick fan.

playa2 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

JamesLin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I will keep this short. I have been here since the beginning and this is the first time this team has been in first place in the Atlantic and most negative it has ever been in here. You would think that because we were so bad all these years the focus would be on holding the division lead and winning a playoff series instead of the blame game on our stars and how to blow the team up. Any positive talk here is out of place. Some of the comments in these posts are just disturbing. You make a positive comment and people respond "can I have what you are smoking." This isn't right. The injuries add insult to injury but this board is crazy. I know people post here to vent but the "no hope" speech is getting old. Hopefully we can get healthy and get some rhythm going before the playoffs. I consider myself a level headed Knicks fan and will not forfeit to the overwhelming negativity that is the majority here.

Hey man, I know you're trying to be positive in this downturn month. I respect you for that, but some of us tend to hit reality hard and fast. Being first place in division doesn't mean much to most of us because we only see championship as the only salvation to our miserable Knicks fan existence. I know I am, and I've been a fan for over 36 years now. We should keep making positive comments as it is not right to already feel defeated during regular season. However, some of us, including myself, are looking at the chance for next few years and it doesn't look good thanks to Jimmy Dol. Phat contracts and old age and very few picks all the way to 2017. Some of us are just happy we might win division, but I'm sure most of us are eyeing that trophy we should've gotten long ago before Jimmy Dol the musician-wannabe took the team from his dad.

I was listening to Joe Beningo(sp?) on the fan a just a couple weeks ago. His point was simple. Melo is NOT an all time great Knick anything. He said can we see at least one deep playoff run (god forbid a few) before we put him up there with the greats? Can we see him lead this team to anything more than a nice win streak here and there followed by another first round spanking in which Melo's performances are all over the place?

Joe Beningo I watched him on SNY running his mouth, funny if somebody said Bernard King was the all time greatest knicks(who didn't take us to a long playoff run) he wouldn't be as negative about him. Bernard King tenure is over and he didn't win squat with the knicks .

Melo's tenure with the Knicks isn't over with yet, but he and other writers and announcers spitting hate. Go figure , I think it's all personal.

Knixkik wrote:I will keep this short. I have been here since the beginning and this is the first time this team has been in first place in the Atlantic and most negative it has ever been in here. You would think that because we were so bad all these years the focus would be on holding the division lead and winning a playoff series instead of the blame game on our stars and how to blow the team up. Any positive talk here is out of place. Some of the comments in these posts are just disturbing. You make a positive comment and people respond "can I have what you are smoking." This isn't right. The injuries add insult to injury but this board is crazy. I know people post here to vent but the "no hope" speech is getting old. Hopefully we can get healthy and get some rhythm going before the playoffs. I consider myself a level headed Knicks fan and will not forfeit to the overwhelming negativity that is the majority here.

With all that being said I am sure few will side/support my take is that its very hard to be positive & be more
Negative with this bunch, in 2013 the knix bring alot on themselves with lacking effort of players & LACKING
Preparation to play a game of hoops which is COACH/coaching.. entire woodson staff.

Ny talks a good game (positive) but their actions is 360degrees and frankly its disgusting when you
Cant play D, ont try, dont try to play game the RIGHT way, 1/2 or greater of NBA teams disdain NYK &
You struggle to win home games or cant ball since Jan2013 vs the weakest teams Or elite teams in your
Own NY gym for all of NY local media/fans to view.

You/knicks are verbally thrashed on nba shows & so so experts such as Charles Barkley & your team
And lame coach are all of sudden too feable OR too too brittle mentally to be angry enough to whip at
Least 1 of these teams A-sses once in awhile & do not anyone on the board gimme a line of Injury excuse
Or this & that bout' referreees ripoff on calls on NY.

Dont want to hear it since your guards CANT GUARD a F&&&cking bank much less a security firm thus
Cant defend against anyone whether No name playas or stars such as LBJ

There is all the negatives u need especially for Knick team which talked 75-90% of season bout' playing
The heat of Miami.

Absurd, team these days need to show some guts & THEY needed to show guts from about Jan 1 2013,
Its March an fans still awaiting.

Knixkik wrote:I will keep this short. I have been here since the beginning and this is the first time this team has been in first place in the Atlantic and most negative it has ever been in here. You would think that because we were so bad all these years the focus would be on holding the division lead and winning a playoff series instead of the blame game on our stars and how to blow the team up. Any positive talk here is out of place. Some of the comments in these posts are just disturbing. You make a positive comment and people respond "can I have what you are smoking." This isn't right. The injuries add insult to injury but this board is crazy. I know people post here to vent but the "no hope" speech is getting old. Hopefully we can get healthy and get some rhythm going before the playoffs. I consider myself a level headed Knicks fan and will not forfeit to the overwhelming negativity that is the majority here.