BRIGGS wrote:Each position must be a player who can score pass and handle. Melo is forced to take 20 shots because we dont have enough scoring. Denver and the Spurs are good examples of this--any given night--you can have a guy score 20 and there is no dependance on 1 player. We put complete focus on what someone from the Knicks organization believed would beat Miami and forgot that there are 30 teams. We have a great player in Melo--if you look back at the Olympics he was a top 3 player. But on a team where he needs to really score 30---it wont work hes not a Kobe type. As much as Im back and forth with JR Smith because we simply dont have the scorers --I think that he should be a s+t candidate or just let him go. His character is not good enough.

the days of the volume shooter inefficient scorer are coming to an end. the new nba looks for players who are going to be able to score efficiently, just look at what wade and lebron are talking about.

the knicks would be better off blowing this dinosaur roster up because they will get nowhere with this group of players.

and just so you don't think i am singling melo out, i don't think the thunder are going to get a title with westbrook as a volume shooter, no matter what other ways he can have a positive impact on the game. same with rose. these players really need to tighten up their games or they'll be a hindrance to a title in spite of themselves.

the knicks are way behind the curve as usual....

dk7th wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Each position must be a player who can score pass and handle. Melo is forced to take 20 shots because we dont have enough scoring. Denver and the Spurs are good examples of this--any given night--you can have a guy score 20 and there is no dependance on 1 player. We put complete focus on what someone from the Knicks organization believed would beat Miami and forgot that there are 30 teams. We have a great player in Melo--if you look back at the Olympics he was a top 3 player. But on a team where he needs to really score 30---it wont work hes not a Kobe type. As much as Im back and forth with JR Smith because we simply dont have the scorers --I think that he should be a s+t candidate or just let him go. His character is not good enough.

the days of the volume shooter inefficient scorer are coming to an end. the new nba looks for players who are going to be able to score efficiently, just look at what wade and lebron are talking about.

the knicks would be better off blowing this dinosaur roster up because they will get nowhere with this group of players.

and just so you don't think i am singling melo out, i don't think the thunder are going to get a title with westbrook as a volume shooter, no matter what other ways he can have a positive impact on the game. same with rose. these players really need to tighten up their games or they'll be a hindrance to a title in spite of themselves.

the knicks are way behind the curve as usual....

Papabear Says

Maybe if Melo had a Wade and Bosh on the Knicks he would win a title. If Rose had a LeBron and Wade on his team he would win a title. Melo has no one he can depend on to make shots night after night. I think the knicks could win a title if we had Westbrooks and Amare was healthy.
Melo has no one to back him up. Even if we Kept Gallo and Wilson Chandler. They were fun to watch but just a 500 ball team if that. I think we better think of players to suround Melo with because Melo ain't going nowhere. Dolan the owner the money man will make sure Melo retires a Knick.

Papabear wrote:

dk7th wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Each position must be a player who can score pass and handle. Melo is forced to take 20 shots because we dont have enough scoring. Denver and the Spurs are good examples of this--any given night--you can have a guy score 20 and there is no dependance on 1 player. We put complete focus on what someone from the Knicks organization believed would beat Miami and forgot that there are 30 teams. We have a great player in Melo--if you look back at the Olympics he was a top 3 player. But on a team where he needs to really score 30---it wont work hes not a Kobe type. As much as Im back and forth with JR Smith because we simply dont have the scorers --I think that he should be a s+t candidate or just let him go. His character is not good enough.

the days of the volume shooter inefficient scorer are coming to an end. the new nba looks for players who are going to be able to score efficiently, just look at what wade and lebron are talking about.

the knicks would be better off blowing this dinosaur roster up because they will get nowhere with this group of players.

and just so you don't think i am singling melo out, i don't think the thunder are going to get a title with westbrook as a volume shooter, no matter what other ways he can have a positive impact on the game. same with rose. these players really need to tighten up their games or they'll be a hindrance to a title in spite of themselves.

the knicks are way behind the curve as usual....

Papabear Says

Maybe if Melo had a Wade and Bosh on the Knicks he would win a title. If Rose had a LeBron and Wade on his team he would win a title. Melo has no one he can depend on to make shots night after night. I think the knicks could win a title if we had Westbrooks and Amare was healthy.
Melo has no one to back him up. Even if we Kept Gallo and Wilson Chandler. They were fun to watch but just a 500 ball team if that. I think we better think of players to suround Melo with because Melo ain't going nowhere. Dolan the owner the money man will make sure Melo retires a Knick.

lebron has always made others better. wade when he defends s a superior player and he has on occasion made others around him better. he has worked on being more efficient and that is big. melo has no one to back him up? he created this situation so there is no use lamenting the mess he himself made. i am sure somewhere inside he is starting to regret his decision.

i don't think the fanbase is going to tolerate much more playoff futility from melo. most fans are going to look at his history of failure with the nuggets (save the one year he had billups running the show) and then look at the playoff failure here in new york and put two and two together. they will eventually have to come to the conclusion that melo is not a winner.

playoff opponents, injuries, bad luck, and all the other excuses won't hold any more weight. when the knicks get bounced in the first or second round this year it will be ten years and counting. we may be looking at a 6'8" marbury here.

in fact, i have a feeling he will eventually asked to be traded if free agency doesn't hit first. there's an early termination option in 2014-2015, whatever that means.

dk7th wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Each position must be a player who can score pass and handle. Melo is forced to take 20 shots because we dont have enough scoring. Denver and the Spurs are good examples of this--any given night--you can have a guy score 20 and there is no dependance on 1 player. We put complete focus on what someone from the Knicks organization believed would beat Miami and forgot that there are 30 teams. We have a great player in Melo--if you look back at the Olympics he was a top 3 player. But on a team where he needs to really score 30---it wont work hes not a Kobe type. As much as Im back and forth with JR Smith because we simply dont have the scorers --I think that he should be a s+t candidate or just let him go. His character is not good enough.

the days of the volume shooter inefficient scorer are coming to an end. the new nba looks for players who are going to be able to score efficiently, just look at what wade and lebron are talking about.

the knicks would be better off blowing this dinosaur roster up because they will get nowhere with this group of players.

and just so you don't think i am singling melo out, i don't think the thunder are going to get a title with westbrook as a volume shooter, no matter what other ways he can have a positive impact on the game. same with rose. these players really need to tighten up their games or they'll be a hindrance to a title in spite of themselves.

the knicks are way behind the curve as usual....

good point... I said this before that carmelo's game is becoming like a dinosaur... those types of players just don't win... Look at how hard carmelo has to work to score nowadays... fake, hold, jab step, spin, miss, rebound, miss, shot blocked, put back... it is an epic struggle.. I am sure it takes a mental and physical toll, and the guys that play with these types of players must not like it deep down... I am not sure how Durant puts up with westbrook.. but I will say this.. guys like rose and westbrook tend to get a lot of easier baskets because they tend to get out. push the ball and get buckets in transition... but overall, the slow plodding, melo style iso ball, just stinks...

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Papabear wrote:

dk7th wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Each position must be a player who can score pass and handle. Melo is forced to take 20 shots because we dont have enough scoring. Denver and the Spurs are good examples of this--any given night--you can have a guy score 20 and there is no dependance on 1 player. We put complete focus on what someone from the Knicks organization believed would beat Miami and forgot that there are 30 teams. We have a great player in Melo--if you look back at the Olympics he was a top 3 player. But on a team where he needs to really score 30---it wont work hes not a Kobe type. As much as Im back and forth with JR Smith because we simply dont have the scorers --I think that he should be a s+t candidate or just let him go. His character is not good enough.

the days of the volume shooter inefficient scorer are coming to an end. the new nba looks for players who are going to be able to score efficiently, just look at what wade and lebron are talking about.

the knicks would be better off blowing this dinosaur roster up because they will get nowhere with this group of players.

and just so you don't think i am singling melo out, i don't think the thunder are going to get a title with westbrook as a volume shooter, no matter what other ways he can have a positive impact on the game. same with rose. these players really need to tighten up their games or they'll be a hindrance to a title in spite of themselves.

the knicks are way behind the curve as usual....

Papabear Says

Maybe if Melo had a Wade and Bosh on the Knicks he would win a title. If Rose had a LeBron and Wade on his team he would win a title. Melo has no one he can depend on to make shots night after night. I think the knicks could win a title if we had Westbrooks and Amare was healthy.
Melo has no one to back him up. Even if we Kept Gallo and Wilson Chandler. They were fun to watch but just a 500 ball team if that. I think we better think of players to suround Melo with because Melo ain't going nowhere. Dolan the owner the money man will make sure Melo retires a Knick.

lebron has always made others better. wade when he defends s a superior player and he has on occasion made others around him better. he has worked on being more efficient and that is big. melo has no one to back him up? he created this situation so there is no use lamenting the mess he himself made. i am sure somewhere inside he is starting to regret his decision.

i don't think the fanbase is going to tolerate much more playoff futility from melo. most fans are going to look at his history of failure with the nuggets (save the one year he had billups running the show) and then look at the playoff failure here in new york and put two and two together. they will eventually have to come to the conclusion that melo is not a winner.

playoff opponents, injuries, bad luck, and all the other excuses won't hold any more weight. when the knicks get bounced in the first or second round this year it will be ten years and counting. we may be looking at a 6'8" marbury here.

in fact, i have a feeling he will eventually asked to be traded if free agency doesn't hit first. there's an early termination option in 2014-2015, whatever that means.

Papabear Says

The Nuggets never put a supporting cast behind Melo to win. Melo was the team. What about LeBron for 7 years in Cleveland. Who did he make better? LeBron was able to pick who he wanted on that team. They didn't win a ring. So LeBron jumped ship to a ready made familyand sticking it to us giving hints waring Yankees hats hinting how nice it would be in New York. Wade had a ring. Bosh was an allstar. SO WHO DID LEBRON MAKE BETTER?? He had a ready made family. So you are wrong wrong wrong. All I ask of you is to be honest but your hate of Melo confuse you and I have no problem with you hatting Melo but damn sometimes you sound like a scorned woman and I don't know if you are a male or female so I mean no harm to you by using the word scorned and if you are offended I am so sorry. Lets keep it real Lebron went to a ready made family. Melo came hear hoping to play with Amare and he got injured. Just Keeping it Real

lebron took the cavs to the finals.. he made guys like booby gibson and mo williams better.. he lost to a great spurs team... I am not sure what you are talking about here...

I will say this.. take this same team we have now.. insert lebron, take out carmelo and I would feel good about an ECF appearance and possible trip to finals....

Regardless you are talking about the best player since Jordan. Melo is not Lebron. I feel like he is top-10 and worthy to build around, but not LeBron. A team Lebron carries to the finals, the next best player can only carry to the 2nd or 3rd round, including Kobe. Lebron is one of a kind.

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:

Papabear wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Papabear wrote:

dk7th wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Each position must be a player who can score pass and handle. Melo is forced to take 20 shots because we dont have enough scoring. Denver and the Spurs are good examples of this--any given night--you can have a guy score 20 and there is no dependance on 1 player. We put complete focus on what someone from the Knicks organization believed would beat Miami and forgot that there are 30 teams. We have a great player in Melo--if you look back at the Olympics he was a top 3 player. But on a team where he needs to really score 30---it wont work hes not a Kobe type. As much as Im back and forth with JR Smith because we simply dont have the scorers --I think that he should be a s+t candidate or just let him go. His character is not good enough.

the days of the volume shooter inefficient scorer are coming to an end. the new nba looks for players who are going to be able to score efficiently, just look at what wade and lebron are talking about.

the knicks would be better off blowing this dinosaur roster up because they will get nowhere with this group of players.

and just so you don't think i am singling melo out, i don't think the thunder are going to get a title with westbrook as a volume shooter, no matter what other ways he can have a positive impact on the game. same with rose. these players really need to tighten up their games or they'll be a hindrance to a title in spite of themselves.

the knicks are way behind the curve as usual....

Papabear Says

Maybe if Melo had a Wade and Bosh on the Knicks he would win a title. If Rose had a LeBron and Wade on his team he would win a title. Melo has no one he can depend on to make shots night after night. I think the knicks could win a title if we had Westbrooks and Amare was healthy.
Melo has no one to back him up. Even if we Kept Gallo and Wilson Chandler. They were fun to watch but just a 500 ball team if that. I think we better think of players to suround Melo with because Melo ain't going nowhere. Dolan the owner the money man will make sure Melo retires a Knick.

lebron has always made others better. wade when he defends s a superior player and he has on occasion made others around him better. he has worked on being more efficient and that is big. melo has no one to back him up? he created this situation so there is no use lamenting the mess he himself made. i am sure somewhere inside he is starting to regret his decision.

i don't think the fanbase is going to tolerate much more playoff futility from melo. most fans are going to look at his history of failure with the nuggets (save the one year he had billups running the show) and then look at the playoff failure here in new york and put two and two together. they will eventually have to come to the conclusion that melo is not a winner.

playoff opponents, injuries, bad luck, and all the other excuses won't hold any more weight. when the knicks get bounced in the first or second round this year it will be ten years and counting. we may be looking at a 6'8" marbury here.

in fact, i have a feeling he will eventually asked to be traded if free agency doesn't hit first. there's an early termination option in 2014-2015, whatever that means.

Papabear Says

The Nuggets never put a supporting cast behind Melo to win. Melo was the team. What about LeBron for 7 years in Cleveland. Who did he make better? LeBron was able to pick who he wanted on that team. They didn't win a ring. So LeBron jumped ship to a ready made familyand sticking it to us giving hints waring Yankees hats hinting how nice it would be in New York. Wade had a ring. Bosh was an allstar. SO WHO DID LEBRON MAKE BETTER?? He had a ready made family. So you are wrong wrong wrong. All I ask of you is to be honest but your hate of Melo confuse you and I have no problem with you hatting Melo but damn sometimes you sound like a scorned woman and I don't know if you are a male or female so I mean no harm to you by using the word scorned and if you are offended I am so sorry. Lets keep it real Lebron went to a ready made family. Melo came hear hoping to play with Amare and he got injured. Just Keeping it Real

lebron took the cavs to the finals.. he made guys like booby gibson and mo williams better.. he lost to a great spurs team... I am not sure what you are talking about here...

I will say this.. take this same team we have now.. insert lebron, take out carmelo and I would feel good about an ECF appearance and possible trip to finals....

Regardless you are talking about the best player since Jordan. Melo is not Lebron. I feel like he is top-10 and worthy to build around, but not LeBron. A team Lebron carries to the finals, the next best player can only carry to the 2nd or 3rd round, including Kobe. Lebron is one of a kind.

you don't need to convince me, I am not the one saying lebron made no one better.....