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AnubisADL
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2/23/2013  10:51 AM
I dont understand the obsession with every Knick loss. This team is built to go deep in the playoffs when the game slows down.

We have battle tested vets. They know when to turn it on. Only around 30 games left.

Chandler/Camby
Martin/Amare
Melo/Smith
Kidd/Shumpert
Felton/Prigioni

Team just needs to get healthy by April.

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2/23/2013  10:57 AM
AnubisADL wrote:I dont understand the obsession with every Knick loss. This team is built to go deep in the playoffs when the game slows down.

We have battle tested vets. They know when to turn it on. Only around 30 games left.

Chandler/Camby
Martin/Amare
Melo/Smith
Kidd/Shumpert
Felton/Prigioni

Team just needs to get healthy by April.

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2/23/2013  10:58 AM
That's only if Woodson plays it like that....he's playing everyone out of position. Melo the 4, Shump@3 Kidd at starting 2.......that's a big reason why we are losing?
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2/23/2013  11:02 AM
What exactly have you seen over the past 3 months that would lead you to believe that we're built to go deep in the playoffs? Your overall point seems to be that we're veteran/old and they "know how to win". And the game has already slowed down for us, we play at the 7th slowest pace in the league; we're not going to get much slower than that.
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2/23/2013  11:03 AM
EnySpree wrote:That's only if Woodson plays it like that....he's playing everyone out of position. Melo the 4, Shump@3 Kidd at starting 2.......that's a big reason why we are losing?

Similar lineup went 18-5.

I don't like the lineup, didn't like it even when team came out hot.

It more than the lineup, it mental..... These guys are beat in the mind.
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2/23/2013  11:06 AM
And Kidd isn't the same.

I agree Eny I've been saying how being overmatched at 3 positions in the starting lineup is killing this team and responsible for the dismal 1st & 3rd quarters even the few times they do give effort like last night. 32-32 after 1
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2/23/2013  11:09 AM
Three knicks have physical players but they have to play in order to be effective. Camby and Sheed are hurt but Copland is a threat inside and out but we would rather play Novak and he can't do anything....not even get open against good teams
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2/23/2013  11:13 AM
EnySpree wrote:Three knicks have physical players but they have to play in order to be effective. Camby and Sheed are hurt but Copland is a threat inside and out but we would rather play Novak and he can't do anything....not even get open against good teams

This I agree with Copeland needs to play. Woody' s big mistakes so far Brewer and Cope.
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2/23/2013  11:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/23/2013  11:17 AM
This group of old farts is built to play its best ball when bodies are fresh at the start of the season and to gradually get worse as wear and tear builds throughout the season.
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2/23/2013  11:21 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:This group of old farts is built to play its best ball when bodies are fresh at the start of the season and to gradually get worse as wear and tear builds throughout the season.

+1

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2/23/2013  11:22 AM
Running teams get shutdown because teams focus more on half court. Let's see all the fast paced teams how well they do in the 2nd season.
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2/23/2013  11:26 AM
So true!

The Heat on a 9-game winning streak and a 38-14 record?

The Pacers 8-2 in their last 10 and currently in second place in the East?

San Antonio 44-13 and OKC 40-15?

Who cares about those PRETENDERS, lets ride with the sinking... ehm... I mean, the surging 32-20 Knicks who have been 14-15 in their last 29. They sure know how to play playoffs type of basketball with their disappearing defense and their unstoppable half court offense!

This is the year! Yeah!

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2/23/2013  11:28 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:This group of old farts is built to play its best ball when bodies are fresh at the start of the season and to gradually get worse as wear and tear builds throughout the season.

I think one of these guys Martin Camby or Wallace could help the defense in the playoffs if carmelo is moved to 3 full time. This thing that the game slows down is false--this is not 1995 anymore. Miami avg 104 against us in their 3 home games--that is a big number. The bottom line is we do not have enough offense and we have no idea who will even be able to play.

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2/23/2013  11:30 AM
Vmart wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Three knicks have physical players but they have to play in order to be effective. Camby and Sheed are hurt but Copland is a threat inside and out but we would rather play Novak and he can't do anything....not even get open against good teams

This I agree with Copeland needs to play. Woody' s big mistakes so far Brewer and Cope.

Copeland is a turnover machine. Euroleague system guy. Oh and he doesn't defend and rebound. Lee Nailon 2.0 slightly better
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2/23/2013  11:32 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:This group of old farts is built to play its best ball when bodies are fresh at the start of the season and to gradually get worse as wear and tear builds throughout the season.

I think one of these guys Martin Camby or Wallace could help the defense in the playoffs if carmelo is moved to 3 full time. This thing that the game slows down is false--this is not 1995 anymore. Miami avg 104 against us in their 3 home games--that is a big number. The bottom line is we do not have enough offense and we have no idea who will even be able to play.

Agreed. Huge misconception. This isn't 1995 like the Knicks seem to think it is. Heat, OKC, Spurs and Clips run. INDY, Chicago and NY are not built to get to the finals
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2/23/2013  11:36 AM
YES! Because nothing is scarier in the playoffs than zero defense, sht guard play, and lack of composure!
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2/23/2013  11:37 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:This group of old farts is built to play its best ball when bodies are fresh at the start of the season and to gradually get worse as wear and tear builds throughout the season.

I think one of these guys Martin Camby or Wallace could help the defense in the playoffs if carmelo is moved to 3 full time. This thing that the game slows down is false--this is not 1995 anymore. Miami avg 104 against us in their 3 home games--that is a big number. The bottom line is we do not have enough offense and we have no idea who will even be able to play.

We have enough offense when the ball is moved and defenses has to actually run around a defend us.

What we have seen lately is a team relying on bad habits because the older vets on the team aren't mentally stable to calm the other players down.

Briggs go look at the playoff scores in the east last year outside of Miami

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2/23/2013  11:40 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
Vmart wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Three knicks have physical players but they have to play in order to be effective. Camby and Sheed are hurt but Copland is a threat inside and out but we would rather play Novak and he can't do anything....not even get open against good teams

This I agree with Copeland needs to play. Woody' s big mistakes so far Brewer and Cope.

Copeland is a turnover machine. Euroleague system guy. Oh and he doesn't defend and rebound. Lee Nailon 2.0 slightly better

Says who? That sounds like Novak. Copeland is a scoring option outside and inside. I can take his lack of defense and rebounding better than Novak because at least cope require someone to defend him. Novak is only deadly from three and the good teams are keying in on him.

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2/23/2013  11:41 AM
Great Point AnubisADL. This is all apart of the Knicks secret plan. That plan is to play like garbage for the last 4 months of the season so we end up in the 6-8 seed and then turn it on and demolish everyone in the playoffs lol. This is why people shouldnt do drugs
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2/23/2013  11:42 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/23/2013  11:50 AM
Outside of Miami?

How about
OKC
Spurs(play faster, great deep offensive system)
CLippers

All these teams run better offenses than the Knicks.

Problem is the Knicks don't have an identity on either end

Indy & Chicago at least have the identity of playing elite defense and moving the ball

Vogel & Thibbs are 2 great young coaching minds and coach to their teams strengths

Whereas Woodson & Dantoni are STUBBORN
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