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gunsnewing
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2/15/2013  6:32 PM
A lot of fans and media are down on him but remember he was cleared for full contact practice nearly 10 months after the surgery which is fine. However he got what? 1 or 2 practices under his belt? Look at Chicago and Rose. He is not coming back until he is truly 100% and you won't notice much of a drop off.

Of course Shump doesn't have the same lift and lateral quickness yet. He will get there but its going to take some time. Maybe a month, maybe the rest of the year but I confident he will get there. The dumbest thing would be for the Knicks to give him up for another veteran bench player.

Just have some patience with the kid and you will be rewarded. Shut down defender don't grow on trees

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2/15/2013  7:21 PM
This is the Knicks we're talking about so I wouldn't be suprised if they pulled such a dumb move. He is 100% a keeper. After coming off of such a bad injury the kid is playing hard and is still fearless. He probably won't be 100% until next year but watch out. There are at least 2 posterizing dunks he missed that if healthy would have made the top 10 list.
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2/16/2013  12:14 AM
Bernard made the point the other night that it is Shump's dominant leg that was injured. It seems like he has extended it too far on several occasions. If nothing else, he doesn't trust that it is totally better yet. I hope the giant sock he wears on that leg helps. Iman is too big an asset to risk his health.
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2/16/2013  1:03 AM
Yea Amare wears that same sleave. Just precautionary
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2/16/2013  10:14 AM
Meanwhile, Derrick Rose is enjoying fatherhood

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2/16/2013  10:16 AM
I wondering if Rose is kept out so Bulls can collect on insurance? Just thinking out loud.
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2/16/2013  10:19 AM
The Answer Man Always Thinks Out Loud

Nalod wrote:Q. I wondering if Rose is kept out so Bulls can collect on insurance? Just thinking out loud.

A. BJ Armstrong is protecting his investments like any big mama protects her babies

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2/16/2013  11:01 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/16/2013  11:03 AM
Shumpert is a year away from being close to the old Shumpert. 1+1 that is the rule of ACL injury. 1 year to get back to playing and another year to get back to playing close to 100%. Mental aspects play a huge role in recovery.
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2/16/2013  11:12 AM
Vmart wrote:Shumpert is a year away from being close to the old Shumpert. 1+1 that is the rule of ACL injury. 1 year to get back to playing and another year to get back to playing close to 100%. Mental aspects play a huge role in recovery.

+1 Adrian Peterson is the only guy in a long history of ACL injuries who took less than 2 years to recover.

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2/16/2013  11:22 AM
VCoug wrote:
Vmart wrote:Shumpert is a year away from being close to the old Shumpert. 1+1 that is the rule of ACL injury. 1 year to get back to playing and another year to get back to playing close to 100%. Mental aspects play a huge role in recovery.

+1 Adrian Peterson is the only guy in a long history of ACL injuries who took less than 2 years to recover.

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2/16/2013  11:24 AM
gunsnewing wrote:A lot of fans and media are down on him but remember he was cleared for full contact practice nearly 10 months after the surgery which is fine. However he got what? 1 or 2 practices under his belt? Look at Chicago and Rose. He is not coming back until he is truly 100% and you won't notice much of a drop off.

Of course Shump doesn't have the same lift and lateral quickness yet. He will get there but its going to take some time. Maybe a month, maybe the rest of the year but I confident he will get there. The dumbest thing would be for the Knicks to give him up for another veteran bench player.

Just have some patience with the kid and you will be rewarded. Shut down defender don't grow on trees

Shump should just keep working on his perimeter game(knocking down 3's) , so when he comes back he would be an all-around complete player offensively and defensively.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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2/16/2013  11:35 AM
VCoug wrote:
Vmart wrote:Shumpert is a year away from being close to the old Shumpert. 1+1 that is the rule of ACL injury. 1 year to get back to playing and another year to get back to playing close to 100%. Mental aspects play a huge role in recovery.

+1 Adrian Peterson is the only guy in a long history of ACL injuries who took less than 2 years to recover.

Wes Welker was not bad and came back quickly too.

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2/16/2013  11:42 AM
playa2 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:A lot of fans and media are down on him but remember he was cleared for full contact practice nearly 10 months after the surgery which is fine. However he got what? 1 or 2 practices under his belt? Look at Chicago and Rose. He is not coming back until he is truly 100% and you won't notice much of a drop off.

Of course Shump doesn't have the same lift and lateral quickness yet. He will get there but its going to take some time. Maybe a month, maybe the rest of the year but I confident he will get there. The dumbest thing would be for the Knicks to give him up for another veteran bench player.

Just have some patience with the kid and you will be rewarded. Shut down defender don't grow on trees

Shump should just keep working on his perimeter game(knocking down 3's) , so when he comes back he would be an all-around complete player offensively and defensively.

If he could even hit the corner 3 with consistency that would be a huge improvement and would greatly help the team.

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2/16/2013  11:52 AM
Why does everyone say if only he could hit the corner 3. It's not like He's 6'10 like Rasheed spacing the floor. Iman needs to hit open threes all over the court. As well as midrange shots consistently
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2/16/2013  11:55 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Why does everyone say if only he could hit the corner 3. It's not like He's 6'10 like Rasheed spacing the floor. Iman needs to hit open threes all over the court. As well as midrange shots consistently

Bruce Bowen is probably the reason. Also, because it supposedly is the easier three. However in Ny's offenses he will more than likely be in the left and right high wing area.

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2/16/2013  12:21 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Why does everyone say if only he could hit the corner 3. It's not like He's 6'10 like Rasheed spacing the floor. Iman needs to hit open threes all over the court. As well as midrange shots consistently

Only one person(VCoug) said hit the corner three, who's everybody ?

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2/16/2013  12:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/16/2013  12:52 PM
playa2 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Why does everyone say if only he could hit the corner 3. It's not like He's 6'10 like Rasheed spacing the floor. Iman needs to hit open threes all over the court. As well as midrange shots consistently

Only one person(VCoug) said hit the corner three, who's everybody ?

Not singling VCoug out. I here people saying it all the time. It is a misconception. Specialiazing in the he corner 3 is for a guy like Brewer who can't shoot a lick or a big like Shawne Williams/Rasheed to get out of the paint and spread the floor

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2/16/2013  1:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/16/2013  1:34 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
playa2 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Why does everyone say if only he could hit the corner 3. It's not like He's 6'10 like Rasheed spacing the floor. Iman needs to hit open threes all over the court. As well as midrange shots consistently

Only one person(VCoug) said hit the corner three, who's everybody ?

Not singling VCoug out. I here people saying it all the time. It is a misconception. Specialiazing in the he corner 3 is for a guy like Brewer who can't shoot a lick or a big like Shawne Williams/Rasheed to get out of the paint and spread the floor

I'm also pretty sure that I'm not the first or only person to bring it up.

You seem to be implying that Shumpert can shoot. Looking at his numbers his rookie year http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/shumpim01/splits/2012/ it looks like he can't shoot a lick. And just watching him should tell you the same thing; he's got talent, he'll be a good defender again when he's recovered, and he's got good athleticism but he really doesn't have anything resembling an offensive game.

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2/16/2013  1:39 PM
gunsnewing wrote:A lot of fans and media are down on him but remember he was cleared for full contact practice nearly 10 months after the surgery which is fine. However he got what? 1 or 2 practices under his belt? Look at Chicago and Rose. He is not coming back until he is truly 100% and you won't notice much of a drop off.

Of course Shump doesn't have the same lift and lateral quickness yet. He will get there but its going to take some time. Maybe a month, maybe the rest of the year but I confident he will get there. The dumbest thing would be for the Knicks to give him up for another veteran bench player.

Just have some patience with the kid and you will be rewarded. Shut down defender don't grow on trees

I do hate how the Knicks always --- stick guys right back into games after just 1 or 2 full contact practices/scrimmages.

If a guy is coming off a serious injury like Amare/Shump --- get him close and then have him practice for 2 weeks not 2 days before running him out there. I guess one problem is that most of our practices are half speed/ass.

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2/16/2013  1:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/16/2013  1:48 PM
most rookies don't come out shooting lights out their rookie year

Lebron shot a whooping 41% his rookie year

The key is to go into Jordan and Lebron mode and work on your game every summer. Basketball is their life. No reason why a rookies skills can't be developed. Unfortunately Shump has had devastating knee injuries going back to his college days. so his progression may be a little slower than others

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