jazz74 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Nobody is jumping off the ledge. However you nailed it when you said that inconsistentcy has been an issue since mid December. Look I didnt expect them to play at the rate they did the first month but they have been a very hot and cold team every other game

well, with the amount of adversity they dealt with since december, it is expected. not to say that no other team has to deal with it but it is still a problem. again we are still in a great position though we have to fight a lot more than a month ago.

IronWillGiroud wrote:I don't know, I'm at the ledge, here's why:

We're in the big three in terms of market size but we're not on the map when it comes to championships,

what's wrong with that? a lot, this is ****ing new york, the center of the universe, and we can't bring a championship home?

I was under the impression that the salary dumps to chase big names were done with the intention of bringing the trophy home,

what do we have here? another team that will win some regular season games but never challenge for the title,

everyone says the clippers owner was bad, but at least when he sucked the team sucked too, they were consistent,

our owner sucks but does just enough to string us along for another season, dolan is easily the worst owner in the history of the universe.

I'm at the ledge dude,

This is not really on point. We have a good team that has been inconsistent in play and effort for the last 6 weeks. That's why I'm on the ledge. There was an edge about this team you could see and feel early on. Now they're getting complacent for some odd reason. They haven't done **** yet to let complacency set in.

StarksEwing1 wrote:There is no doubt that the knicks have to wake up because this is the year where it might be our best shot. As everyone knows we dont have a young team. Our only valuable young player is shumpert and he has already ha done bad injury. Camby and Sheed are very important for playoffs BUT its tough to rely on them because they are injured often. Melo has played great most of the year but he is starting to go through a slump recently and the same goes with JR. All i want is for this team to play hard and well up until the ASB and get some speration from the nets and maybe take over the top spot in the East

I wonder what thier conditioning is. For JR to miss everything last night it tells me he may have been back in the clubs again and took Melo with him while lolo was out of town.

IronWillGiroud wrote:I don't know, I'm at the ledge, here's why:

We're in the big three in terms of market size but we're not on the map when it comes to championships,

what's wrong with that? a lot, this is ****ing new york, the center of the universe, and we can't bring a championship home?

I was under the impression that the salary dumps to chase big names were done with the intention of bringing the trophy home,

what do we have here? another team that will win some regular season games but never challenge for the title,

everyone says the clippers owner was bad, but at least when he sucked the team sucked too, they were consistent,

our owner sucks but does just enough to string us along for another season, dolan is easily the worst owner in the history of the universe.

I'm at the ledge dude,

i understand that. look i have been a knick fan since the 80's and saw the likes of great players like king and ewing and still no championship from them. i came to realize that winning in the nba is much harder than most sports where money can solve many problems ( baseball) or lucky breaks here or there can win you a championship when there is parity in the league ( football). now, with that said, we have a team right now that can get it done. we seem to forget what we looked like before. teams have adjusted but again we did simple things that helped us win like hustle and passing the ball to get the open man and cut down on isos. those are easy problems to fix and get right back into it. we just have to have that fire. like someone said, we are getting complacent and we did not earn the right to be like that like miami or san antonio. we will see the effort tonight to better gauge.

markvmc wrote:I've been on the ledge for 10 years+. Frankly I don't think I could survive on the outside (of the ledge).

Sad to see a system man.

*Welcome to Z*

IronWillGiroud wrote:I don't know, I'm at the ledge, here's why:

We're in the big three in terms of market size but we're not on the map when it comes to championships,

what's wrong with that? a lot, this is ****ing new york, the center of the universe, and we can't bring a championship home?

I was under the impression that the salary dumps to chase big names were done with the intention of bringing the trophy home,

what do we have here? another team that will win some regular season games but never challenge for the title,

everyone says the clippers owner was bad, but at least when he sucked the team sucked too, they were consistent,

our owner sucks but does just enough to string us along for another season, dolan is easily the worst owner in the history of the universe.

I'm at the ledge dude,

In some odd way, having downers posting about looking up at the Clippers franchise makes me very happy to be a Knicks fan.

Go stand on the ledge. I'm happy sitting inside the building in first place.

For myself I am an optimist – it does not seem to be much use being anything else - Sir Winston Churchill

Knicks front office know this as well.