JR Smith bleeds the blue and orange and I believe that even if a poison pill was offered he would not take it. The only thing that would be important to JR Smith would be that he starts and after the second year he would have a bail out clause. He is a New Jersey boy who love the Knicks. Lin gave us the poison pill and if we would have kept Lin it would have been very difficult for Melo to be who he is now. Making Lin some sort of hero over Melo would be a hard pill for Melo to swallow even though Lin can't be compared to the greatness of Melo.

VCoug wrote:And why does JR bleed blue and white? Those are Mavs or Duke colors.

Papabear Says

My bad! Thankyou I changed it.

VCoug wrote:Let's put it this way, last Summer no other team in the league offered JR a contract and we never offered one to Lin. To try and parse out the loyalty levels of different players in different situations is basically useless.

Well if you believe all that was written, we couldn't offer Lin a contract, maybe because he wanted more than the 5 mil per...Also JR said he had other options...If u need a link let me know...

"I have decided to re-sign with the Knicks. I just felt that, despite my other options, New York is the best situation for me," Smith said in a statement released to ESPNNewYork.com. "Coach (Mike) Woodson showed a lot of faith and trust in me last season, as did (Knicks owner) Mr. (James) Dolan and the organization.

"My teammates are great to play with and New York fans are the best. I can't wait to get started."

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JR Smith bleeds the blue and white and I believe that even if a poison pill was offered he would not take it. The only thing that would be important to JR Smith would be that he starts and after the second year he would have a bail out clause. He is a New Jersey boy who love the Knicks. Lin gave us the poison pill and if we would have kept Lin it would have been very difficult for Melo to be who he is now. Making Lin some sort of hero over Melo would be a hard pill for Melo to swallow even though Lin can't be compared to the greatness of Melo.

I love these fables! JR Smith career up until this season has him painted as an inconsistent performer whose off court activities don't lend itself to spelling the word "professional". Other than kill his friend in a reckless stupid act in a car, he really has not done anything that bad but it does make one worry that such things could get worse instead of better. In the fable encrusted view that woodson is his mentor we see a young man who is buying in to system and perhaps maturing. As a team we really needed this kid so perhaps we have laid out a plan by which he follows and if so we pay him. Thats just my guess.

As far as him wanting to be here I recall his father spewing some nonsense about wanting to be paid but this is a good place for him to be.

All I know he has been screwed over by other teams because he screws up on and off the court. I don't think he is a bad kid, just a freaking idiot immature kid.

If he can get paid big money to be a featured player why would he not do that? This is a business, he could sign here and we trade his ass soon after. Players understand the business side. Not sure fans always do. And thus, fables are written.

VCoug wrote:

holfresh wrote:

VCoug wrote:Let's put it this way, last Summer no other team in the league offered JR a contract and we never offered one to Lin. To try and parse out the loyalty levels of different players in different situations is basically useless.

Well if you believe all that was written, we couldn't offer Lin a contract, maybe because he wanted more than the 5 mil per...Also JR said he had other options...If u need a link let me know...

"I have decided to re-sign with the Knicks. I just felt that, despite my other options, New York is the best situation for me," Smith said in a statement released to ESPNNewYork.com. "Coach (Mike) Woodson showed a lot of faith and trust in me last season, as did (Knicks owner) Mr. (James) Dolan and the organization.

"My teammates are great to play with and New York fans are the best. I can't wait to get started."

There is absolutely no reason we couldn't have offered Lin a contract. None. And there wasn't a single report that any other team inquired about JR and his availability.

We might be playing word games here which is very common on this board...You might be correct..The Knicks could have offered him 5 mil per but I think his camp told the Knicks they were seeking more money than that which is why they said they would match anything...

holfresh wrote:

VCoug wrote:

holfresh wrote:

VCoug wrote:Let's put it this way, last Summer no other team in the league offered JR a contract and we never offered one to Lin. To try and parse out the loyalty levels of different players in different situations is basically useless.

Well if you believe all that was written, we couldn't offer Lin a contract, maybe because he wanted more than the 5 mil per...Also JR said he had other options...If u need a link let me know...

"I have decided to re-sign with the Knicks. I just felt that, despite my other options, New York is the best situation for me," Smith said in a statement released to ESPNNewYork.com. "Coach (Mike) Woodson showed a lot of faith and trust in me last season, as did (Knicks owner) Mr. (James) Dolan and the organization.

"My teammates are great to play with and New York fans are the best. I can't wait to get started."

There is absolutely no reason we couldn't have offered Lin a contract. None. And there wasn't a single report that any other team inquired about JR and his availability.

We might be playing word games here which is very common on this board...You might be correct..The Knicks could have offered him 5 mil per but I think his camp told the Knicks they were seeking more money than that which is why they said they would match anything...

holfresh wrote:

knickscity wrote:

holfresh wrote:

VCoug wrote:

holfresh wrote:

VCoug wrote:Let's put it this way, last Summer no other team in the league offered JR a contract and we never offered one to Lin. To try and parse out the loyalty levels of different players in different situations is basically useless.

Well if you believe all that was written, we couldn't offer Lin a contract, maybe because he wanted more than the 5 mil per...Also JR said he had other options...If u need a link let me know...

"I have decided to re-sign with the Knicks. I just felt that, despite my other options, New York is the best situation for me," Smith said in a statement released to ESPNNewYork.com. "Coach (Mike) Woodson showed a lot of faith and trust in me last season, as did (Knicks owner) Mr. (James) Dolan and the organization.

"My teammates are great to play with and New York fans are the best. I can't wait to get started."

There is absolutely no reason we couldn't have offered Lin a contract. None. And there wasn't a single report that any other team inquired about JR and his availability.

We might be playing word games here which is very common on this board...You might be correct..The Knicks could have offered him 5 mil per but I think his camp told the Knicks they were seeking more money than that which is why they said they would match anything...

None of this makes sense. Lin was not offered a contract at all by the Knicks, and the rest of your post is pure speculation.

It might not make sense if u didn't understand that under the new CBA the Knicks were not allowed to offer him a contract over 5 mil per...This topic was address in the article that questioned Lin's intelligence as a Harvard grad for signing with Houston..

They didn't offer him a deal because they wanted him to set his own market....plain and simple.

holfresh wrote:

knickscity wrote:

holfresh wrote:

knickscity wrote:

holfresh wrote:

VCoug wrote:

holfresh wrote:

VCoug wrote:Let's put it this way, last Summer no other team in the league offered JR a contract and we never offered one to Lin. To try and parse out the loyalty levels of different players in different situations is basically useless.

Well if you believe all that was written, we couldn't offer Lin a contract, maybe because he wanted more than the 5 mil per...Also JR said he had other options...If u need a link let me know...

"I have decided to re-sign with the Knicks. I just felt that, despite my other options, New York is the best situation for me," Smith said in a statement released to ESPNNewYork.com. "Coach (Mike) Woodson showed a lot of faith and trust in me last season, as did (Knicks owner) Mr. (James) Dolan and the organization.

"My teammates are great to play with and New York fans are the best. I can't wait to get started."

There is absolutely no reason we couldn't have offered Lin a contract. None. And there wasn't a single report that any other team inquired about JR and his availability.

We might be playing word games here which is very common on this board...You might be correct..The Knicks could have offered him 5 mil per but I think his camp told the Knicks they were seeking more money than that which is why they said they would match anything...

None of this makes sense. Lin was not offered a contract at all by the Knicks, and the rest of your post is pure speculation.

It might not make sense if u didn't understand that under the new CBA the Knicks were not allowed to offer him a contract over 5 mil per...This topic was address in the article that questioned Lin's intelligence as a Harvard grad for signing with Houston..

So you really think the Knicks didn't offer a contract because they....and Lin's camp knew they could get more? Come on now.

They didn't offer him a deal because they wanted him to set his own market....plain and simple.

So, your point is you don't believe the new CBA prevented the Knicks from offering him more than 5 mil?

holfresh wrote:

knickscity wrote:

holfresh wrote:

knickscity wrote:

holfresh wrote:

knickscity wrote:

holfresh wrote:

VCoug wrote:

holfresh wrote:

VCoug wrote:Let's put it this way, last Summer no other team in the league offered JR a contract and we never offered one to Lin. To try and parse out the loyalty levels of different players in different situations is basically useless.

Well if you believe all that was written, we couldn't offer Lin a contract, maybe because he wanted more than the 5 mil per...Also JR said he had other options...If u need a link let me know...

"I have decided to re-sign with the Knicks. I just felt that, despite my other options, New York is the best situation for me," Smith said in a statement released to ESPNNewYork.com. "Coach (Mike) Woodson showed a lot of faith and trust in me last season, as did (Knicks owner) Mr. (James) Dolan and the organization.

"My teammates are great to play with and New York fans are the best. I can't wait to get started."

There is absolutely no reason we couldn't have offered Lin a contract. None. And there wasn't a single report that any other team inquired about JR and his availability.

We might be playing word games here which is very common on this board...You might be correct..The Knicks could have offered him 5 mil per but I think his camp told the Knicks they were seeking more money than that which is why they said they would match anything...

None of this makes sense. Lin was not offered a contract at all by the Knicks, and the rest of your post is pure speculation.

It might not make sense if u didn't understand that under the new CBA the Knicks were not allowed to offer him a contract over 5 mil per...This topic was address in the article that questioned Lin's intelligence as a Harvard grad for signing with Houston..

So you really think the Knicks didn't offer a contract because they....and Lin's camp knew they could get more? Come on now.

They didn't offer him a deal because they wanted him to set his own market....plain and simple.

So, your point is you don't believe the new CBA prevented the Knicks from offering him more than 5 mil?

That part is irrelevant, no team could offer more than 5, so how does that stop them from offering a deal?

He signed with Houston who is paying him 8 mil per..I'm not sure what u are getting at???

Just admit you don't know what you're talking about in this case.