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We need to give Jeremy Lin a standing ovation
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Elite
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12/17/2012  2:36 AM
it's the right thing to do. Lin wanted to be a Knick period. Knicks wanted him too, but Houston just wanted him more than the Knicks did at the end of the day. We can never blame Lin for that.

He was incredible and made it a joy to be a Knicks fan last year, even though it was short.. it was sweet.

Lin will probably come back here eventually, and he will be a star by then. When Kidd retires, he might run the show alongside Felton.

Let him develop in Houston... Bring him back home when he's ready for the big stage.


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12/17/2012  3:26 AM
Lin is a good guy, his golden child lore is what most people have a problem with. Kinda like Mark Sanchize.
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12/17/2012  3:32 AM
Anji wrote:Lin is a good guy, his golden child lore is what most people have a problem with. Kinda like Mark Sanchize.

how can you have a problem with such a great story

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12/17/2012  3:40 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/17/2012  3:41 AM
Elite wrote:
Anji wrote:Lin is a good guy, his golden child lore is what most people have a problem with. Kinda like Mark Sanchize.

how can you have a problem with such a great story


The actually run was great, the emotional investment that has led to the Felton, Melo, Team sniping over him.... No Buenos.
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12/17/2012  3:41 AM
Elite wrote:
Anji wrote:Lin is a good guy, his golden child lore is what most people have a problem with. Kinda like Mark Sanchize.

how can you have a problem with such a great story

The great story was kind of ruined when he cashed in. Nothing wrong with what he did, but I have grown annoyed at the way he keeps making out it wasn't about the money, and that he is in no way responsible for his actions, and is always some sort of suffering victim.

Anyways we've gone over these arguments a zillion times, so I'll just say I wouldn't cheer, and I don't think he should be cheered.

However, I expect there to be a mixture of cheers and boos.

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12/17/2012  3:48 AM
I don't he should be booed. It's like booing Ramon Session or Jamal Crawford for not signing here, who cares.
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12/17/2012  7:06 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/17/2012  7:23 AM
In my eyes the only PG's in which deserve a standing ovation from Madison Square Garden faithful come later tonight are both Raymond Felton and Jason Kidd. Felton himself is only 28 years of age while still improving as a veteran PG.

I just don't understand why (some) Knick fans are still stressing the importance of pulling for and/or giving Jeremy Lin a standing ovation instead of embracing our very own talented PG in Raymond Felton. If the season were to end today, our Knicks of 2012-2013 would then set an all-time NBA record for fewest offensive turnovers per game. Both Felton and Kidd have been our main ball handlers too. Jeremy Lin, who?

Some fans seem to forget that Raymond Felton averaged 17.1 points, 9.0 assists and only 3.3 turnovers per game during his first stint with our Knicks. It wasn't a small twenty six game sample size either, because Felton put up those numbers during 54 games leading up to our trade for Melo. Not only were Felton's numbers of 2010-2011 stronger when compared to Lin's numbers during "Linsanity" but Raymond Felton has also out performed Jeremy Lin with just about each and every statistical category known to the PG position here in 2012-2013.

Ray: 18-5 overall. 16.3 points, 6.7 assists & 2.4 turnovers per game. FG% of .403%. Player Efficiency Rating of 16.9.

Lin: 11-12 overall. 10.8 points, 6.0 assists & 2.7 turnovers per game. FG% of .395. Player Efficiency Rating of 13.2.

Just my personal opinion but the only PG's in which deserve a standing ovation are Jason Kidd and Raymond Felton. Why support Jeremy Lin come gamenight, why, to make him feel comfortable in our building? I truthfully hope our fan base gives Lin the business for four quarters strong, while also treating Lin as if he's a rival and/or opponent.

As a fan base, we owe Jeremy Lin nothing. Not even a standing ovation. In my eyes he used our New York Knicks as a stepping stone in order to land his current (gigantic) contract and/or salary. But now as a fan base we're expected to give this man a standing ovation? Not only did Jeremy Lin leave the only team, fan base and/or franchise in which gave him a chance in life, but he also left the only franchise in which changed his life (for the better), for the same exact Houston Rockets franchise in which let him sleep on his "brothers couch".

Jeremy Lin himself the person, not the basketball player but Jeremy Lin the person first used our Knicks team as a stepping stone before later (more like immediately) signing with the same exact franchise in which treated him like practice folder. Houston gave Lin his pink slip. And now, I'm supposed to give Lin a standing ovation? Houston handed Lin his walking papers before not only running Lin out of town, but also kicked him to the curb at the same time. But yet, Jeremy Lin was still quick to sign with Houston without seond thought. I look at Lin as being nothing more than a little sneak. A snake in the grass.

Lin did have a strong run as an underdawg yes, but he wasn't "incredible". Far from it too. Lin was a turnover machine at times, played a whopping 26 games of regular season basketball before sitting out the final 17 games of our regular season. He then continued to sit out during the entire first round of the playoffs while Miami destroyed our team. I have my own belief, but I believe that Jeremy Lin sat out for his contract. He could've been scared of being exposed by Miami's athletic defense. If Lin would've been exposed against Miami during the playoff as in exposed during his first meeting with Miami during the regular season? He then loses out on millions upon millions of dollars. He was supposedly at 75%-85% healthy for that Miami series, but yet failed to even attempt a single minute of play against Miami. So, when Lin supporters state he was "incredible"? I'll have to agree to disagree. A turnover machine at times, only 26 regular season games played, sat out the final 17 games of the regular season due to an injury before sitting out the entire first round with zero postseason experience moving forward. Nothing more than an overall 16-10 record.

Last but not least, everyone talks about our seven game win streak during "Linsanity". They refuse to talk about the rest. No mention of our six game losing streak under Jeremy Lin. No mention of an average record of only 16-10 overall during Lin's time in New York. Far from impressive and as a Knicks fan, I've seen much greater over the years. Now we're talking about having Lin develop before returning to New York? Well, Linsanity has been dead for quite some time now. It's a thing of the past in which may never re-surface. As or right now Lin's looking more and like a product of a Mike D'Antoni led offensive system when compared to a player in which can flourish within any system (his own teammate in Harden for example).

When I read this topic of discussion? I had alot to get off my chest. Now I'm ready to leave Lin as a thing of the past and focus on our current team. The only two PG's in which deserve a standing ovation are Felton and Kidd. We're 18-5 overall and aren't turning the ball over. Record setting pace.

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12/17/2012  7:19 AM
Lol. Dude played 25 games. Standing ovation my ass.
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12/17/2012  7:56 AM

Linsanity was every bit important as 18-6 to make the playoffs.

It captured the imagination of fans around the world and for two weeks we had a version of "walter mitty".

It was not just a basketball event, it was a sensationalized cultural phenomenon of little importance but to the Asian sports fans it was their MINI "Jackie Robinson" moment. Not to diminish Jackie in any way, and I said "MINI".

It was fun.

Like when the understudy of a broadway show saves the day with a great performance.

Give the kid a standing ovation for the same reasons we gave Melo a standing "O" when he was first announced. Its not money, its not anything but fans saying hello, thank and good luck.

Nobody is saying retire his number. Nobody.

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12/17/2012  8:01 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Lol. Dude played 25 games. Standing ovation my ass.

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12/17/2012  8:03 AM
Anji wrote:I don't he should be booed. It's like booing Ramon Session or Jamal Crawford for not signing here, who cares.

+1 who cares about Lin? The Knicks have moved on an are much better now. Best of luck to him.

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12/17/2012  8:05 AM
We are talking sheepish New York fans who listen to the radio and take the media at their word. Lin will be booed and booed loudly tonight
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12/17/2012  8:12 AM
of course he is going to get a big ovation. he gave fans hope. if he gets booed then that says a lot about ny fans.
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12/17/2012  8:20 AM
gunsnewing wrote:We are talking sheepish New York fans who listen to the radio and take the media at their word. Lin will be booed and booed loudly tonight

Are they painting him as a greedy opportunist?

I think about all the Lin wearing jersey fans in Toronto and the cheers he got in their building. The pride of Asians everywhere that one of their own had made it.

If we are the "Basketball Mecca" of the world, and Linsanity was a global event I don't see why we can't give this guy a nice moment of appreciation and wish him well.

Once the game starts, then its all on the court.

Philly would boo him. Lets hope we act like the "Mecca" so many harp on for being such good "intelligent" fans instead of immature goon posers that think "Man if Oak was here he'd slap the slant off his eyes and not let him in the paint"!

NYMental, its not about stats, and we cheer out Knicks every nite in the intro. Im not talking about a 5 minute standing ovation, just a step up from the usual cheer for an exknick. This kid was fun and saved the season as much as anyone. Remember, he did his thing mostly without Melo or Amare!

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12/17/2012  8:43 AM
Elite wrote:He was incredible and made it a joy to be a Knicks fan last year, even though it was short.. it was sweet.

Lin will probably come back here eventually, and he will be a star by then. When Kidd retires, he might run the show alongside Felton.

You needed Linsanity to make the Knicks enjoyable for you? Nice.

Keep sleeping in your Lin Jersey and sniffling yourself to sleep each night, dreaming about a better handle, and an entire season without an airball. I'm sure if you pray hard enough, your dreams will always come true. Meanwhile, enjoy TD playing in the fourth quarter of almost every game. If you close your eyes, maybe you can imagine it's Jeremy playing those meaningful minutes...

In case you hadn't noticed, our beloved franchise is still run by our dopey owner who is not bringing back Lin in your lifetime.

The man's in a Rockets jersey. Have a nice career, Jeremy.

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12/17/2012  8:49 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/17/2012  8:49 AM
We need to give David Lee a standing ovation for his years of hard nosed sacrifice while the franchise struggled

We need to give Zachary Randolph as standing ovation for gracing us with his presence

We must absolutely give little Nate a standing O for the slam dunk title

The grass is always greener in another uniform

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12/17/2012  8:54 AM
I have no problem with people that want to give Lin a standing ovation. I just wonder why people think it is mandatory. This is NY. We have booed far better players than Lin.
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12/17/2012  8:57 AM
jrodmc wrote:
Elite wrote:He was incredible and made it a joy to be a Knicks fan last year, even though it was short.. it was sweet.

Lin will probably come back here eventually, and he will be a star by then. When Kidd retires, he might run the show alongside Felton.

You needed Linsanity to make the Knicks enjoyable for you? Nice.


The team was around .350 before Linsanity. Were you honestly finding that enjoyable?
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12/17/2012  9:03 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Elite wrote:He was incredible and made it a joy to be a Knicks fan last year, even though it was short.. it was sweet.

Lin will probably come back here eventually, and he will be a star by then. When Kidd retires, he might run the show alongside Felton.

You needed Linsanity to make the Knicks enjoyable for you? Nice.


The team was around .350 before Linsanity. Were you honestly finding that enjoyable?

Linsanity lasted about 7 games and was enjoyable. I will say that. I don't see why it is any more important than Melo dominating the month of April and getting player of the month. Both are old news and irrelevant right now.

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12/17/2012  9:12 AM

Please groan extra loud for every "bad shot" that Raymond Felton takes tonight. For every errant Felton pass, scream "I told you so."

When Jeremy Lin scores against the Knicks, cheer him as you would cheer Lebron or Kobe.

When Chandler Parson makes a three, "gee, I wish we had HIM" should preclude another trade discussion.

If Jeremy Lin deserves a standing ovation for making us smile, does Toney Douglas deserve extra applause for playing while injured?

Go Rockets.

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We need to give Jeremy Lin a standing ovation

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