Even better, terminate people with mental illness in gas chambers.

People have been killing each other before guns existed. Banning guns isnt going to change anything.

AnubisADL wrote:Might as well ban sharp objects too.

Even better, terminate people with mental illness in gas chambers.

People have been killing each other before guns existed. Banning guns isnt going to change anything.

You wouldn't have the number of casualties if the perpetrator was armed with a sharp object. Seriously, why do people need guns?

If it saves one innocent life, it's worth it.

You will need protection from them.

I'm a husband who works alot of late night shifts. When I leave for work? I leave my wife and little daughter (2 years of age) in a home, all by themselves. If a man is out looking to rape a woman or god forbid a little girl? Breaks into my home? You can bet your life on it, that my wife is going into the bedroom to get the gun. And from there? He's getting shot on the scene and hopefully murdered.

Drugs are so called "banned" in this country, but it still doesn't change the fact that drug dealers sell drugs each and every day. That will never change.

When it comes to the point where an innocent family, a good and loving family such as mine can no longer have a gun? That's when we leave this Country. Police and the U.S service doesn't protect us, not in the comfort of our own homes they dont; they arrive AFTER THE FACT. So, take away guns from the loving families in order to protect their family? Gun's are banned in the U.S? Fine.

What's stopping an evil killer from getting his hands on a gun from the Mexican thugs over the border? Ban guns in the U.S and guess what happens? The evil people in life will have the guns (still looking to kill) while the good and loving people will be at a disadvantage with no protection for themselves and/or their family.

You will never be able to eliminate guns in America. When an evil killer want's a gun? They'll get a gun. You don't take away the freedom of a man looking to protect his family due to evil people using guns.

And cops are people too, just like me and you. Cops are nothing special. Cops sin like we all do. Some even abuse their "power". Ban guns in America? What's stopping a sick man from becoming a cop, just to get his hands on a gun followed by using that gun to murder people while he's off-shift ala on the low key?

BRIGGS wrote:I no longer believe that US homes should have a gun--for recreation home security or anything else. Only police and military should have them and they must be all accounted for. Hunters should use cross bows only. Severe restrictions have to be put in place. Time for violence everywhere in the US to be drastically reduced.

Typical simplistic over reaction to a complicated situation. Perfect definition for a delusional liberal.

NYKMentality wrote:I'm a husband who works alot of late night shifts. When I leave for work? I leave my wife and little daughter (2 years of age) in a home, all by themselves. If a man is out looking to rape a woman or god forbid a little girl? Breaks into my home? You can bet your life on it, that my wife is going into the bedroom to get the gun. And from there? He's getting shot on the scene and hopefully murdered.

Your wife and daughter are FAR more likely to be a victim of violent gun crime than are to every use on in their own home for self-protection.

Your point is a philosophical one - should you be allowed to have "protection"? And there's plenty of room for debate on that issue.

But again, our laws result in you and your family being more likely a victim of a violent gun crime that than other way around. In fact, statistically speaking, its far more likely a member of your family will be wounded or killed by your OWN gun than it being used to protect them.

Its takes only minutes to looks up statistics to compare different countries with different gun laws and violent crime rates.

The stand-off becomes when those locked into a belief-system argue that lack of correlation between violent crimes and guns, as if countries that have sticker gun laws have higher rates of stabbings, poisonings, bombings or other forums of violent crimes.

Spoiler alert - they don't. They have less. By rule.

As a libertarian, you may choose to eliminate the ramifications of our guns laws and argue its an unalienable right no matter what, and you'd have legitimate argument.

But the facts, are, what you THINK makes you safer makes you the EXACT opposite. Anyone tethered to the idea the answer to the problem is escalation, if EVERYONE is carrying firearms then we'd all be safer, you've lost touch with any notion of common sense.

Countries with stricker gun laws have lower violent crime rates.

nyk4ever wrote:banning guns will do nothing at all. crazy people do crazy **** and whenever crazy people want to do something, they always do it. guns or no guns, people will find away to commit awful acts.

Countries with stricter guns laws have statistically significant lower crime rates. Privately owned guns statistically make NO dent in preventing violent crime.

Are you disputing either of these facts?

Knickoftime wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:banning guns will do nothing at all. crazy people do crazy **** and whenever crazy people want to do something, they always do it. guns or no guns, people will find away to commit awful acts.

Countries with stricter guns laws have statistically significant lower crime rates. Privately owned guns statistically make NO dent in preventing violent crime.

Are you disputing either of these facts?

i do not think that is the point he is making. it is that hard core criminals will still get guns and violate the law. dc had a pretty comprehensive ban on most firearms (couldnt own unless registered before 1976). ended in 2008, deemed unconstitutional by sc. it didnt stop violent gun crime in dc during the 1976-2008 era.

i do feel that the usa is diff when it comes to guns though. there is something about how the country was born that has made the gun something different compared to other nations. the second and third amendments are a direct result of the times (king george, frontier politics/indians, limited security, etc. not saying the other amendments are not). the gun has endured while the fear of quartering has not, probably because its direct cause hasnt been an issue since the revolutionary war.