3G4G wrote:Man what a horrible trade....Grunny takes a major LMNOP on this

On July 11, 2012, Camby was traded to the New York Knicks in a sign-and-trade deal that also involved Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson, Jerome Jordan, and two future draft picks going to the Rockets.

3G4G wrote:Man what a horrible trade....Grunny takes a major LMNOP on this

Toney Douglas, Jerome Jordan, Josh Harrellson and second-round picks in 2014 and 2015. Me thinks you may be over-reacting a bit.

Had to figure one would be problematic. Its awful. I have it and it hurts first thing in the morning, after a work out when things tighten, or after sitting for a while.

Im not a proathlete so its no big deal, but if your gonna run and jump its gonna be a problem.

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AnubisADL wrote:Wasnt expecting Mr Glass to provide much until the playoffs.

That won't happen either. Woody isn't all of sudden going to go to the Mr. Glass well during the playoffs when rotations are tight throughout. Nor would Mr. Glass show as a great vibrant contributor after sitting out the whole season.

He's done for this year for sure, Camby is fulfilling Jerome James/Ey Curry's fame right now

Cambg is a vet. He will produce when called upon. We can use him for rebounding and defense.

Or trade him too. We only paying him 3-4 million per.

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Bonn1997 wrote:

3G4G wrote:Man what a horrible trade....Grunny takes a major LMNOP on this

On July 11, 2012, Camby was traded to the New York Knicks in a sign-and-trade deal that also involved Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson, Jerome Jordan, and two future draft picks going to the Rockets.

Were those both 2nd rd picks? This is a win-now team and a healthy Camby is better than those other guys. I can understand what Grunny was thinking. I miss Harrellson and Jordan though.

Once again it was was...

Douglas
Jorts
Jordan
2014 2nd
2015 2nd
Douglas 2012/2013 salary paid by us, essentially $2.1mil
Camby gets 3yr $13.2mil $10mil fully guaranteed and we pay Tax on Camby's salary for this year and next year

Why do you mention the tax? Knicks would have been paying that this year regardless if the trade went down or not....just on different players.

Andrew wrote:

3G4G wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

3G4G wrote:Man what a horrible trade....Grunny takes a major LMNOP on this

On July 11, 2012, Camby was traded to the New York Knicks in a sign-and-trade deal that also involved Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson, Jerome Jordan, and two future draft picks going to the Rockets.

Were those both 2nd rd picks? This is a win-now team and a healthy Camby is better than those other guys. I can understand what Grunny was thinking. I miss Harrellson and Jordan though.

Once again it was was...

Douglas
Jorts
Jordan
2014 2nd
2015 2nd
Douglas 2012/2013 salary paid by us, essentially $2.1mil
Camby gets 3yr $13.2mil $10mil fully guaranteed and we pay Tax on Camby's salary for this year and next year

Why do you mention the tax? Knicks would have been paying that this year regardless if the trade went down or not....just on different players.

Not in case Lin wasn't retained due to financial ramifications, then maybe mentioning the Tax can be omitted or in case it doesn't hamper us financially on making other moves or facilitating them. Camby's deal was agreed to first correct? Not trying to turn this into a Lin thread trust me I'm not I'm pointing out how such moves can limit flexibility.

Andrew wrote:

3G4G wrote:Not in case Lin wasn't retained due to financial ramifications, then maybe mentioning the Tax can be omitted or in case it doesn't hamper us financially on making other moves or facilitating them. Camby's deal was agreed to first correct? Not trying to turn this into a Lin thread trust me I'm not I'm pointing out how such moves can limit flexibility.

My point was the Knicks sent almost as much salary out that it received back. Trade or no trade the tax bill is the same.

My point was in conjunction of paying a player's salary coupled with Tax the player isn't contributing. Had we kept Douglas/Jorts maybe they'd be playing right now or not(who knows with Woody although Jorts stood a solid chance with 3ball and hustle play) or get this maybe we trade those guys for future picks(2nd rounders) and sign a free agent who could contribute for example.....K-Mart

So we're not paying Camby just $3.9mil it's more like $5mil to do nothing