Allanfan20 wrote:I have still yet to figure out why there are players on this team who have publicly spoken against Lin. Did he say stuff about them or slight them and we just don't know about it? It's kind of baffling.

Allanfan20 wrote:I have still yet to figure out why there are players on this team who have publicly spoken against Lin. Did he say stuff about them or slight them and we just don't know about it? It's kind of baffling.

With that said, talking about that players game is totally open field.

I doubt this team is 8-1 with Lin as the starter.

Dude is averaging the same turnovers average as Felton, yet has a lower usage rating.

That tells me he has alot to learn, but our team needs guys who already know how to play, not students.

knickscity wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:I have still yet to figure out why there are players on this team who have publicly spoken against Lin. Did he say stuff about them or slight them and we just don't know about it? It's kind of baffling.

Personally i don't think men should take about each other money, whether positive or negative.

With that said, talking about that players game is totally open field.

I doubt this team is 8-1 with Lin as the starter.

Dude is averaging the same turnovers average as Felton, yet has a lower usage rating.

That tells me he has alot to learn, but our team needs guys who already know how to play, not students.

I agree Felton has been phenomenal. I doubted whether he would come into camp in shape and whether he could succeed without Dantoni but so far he's been everything we could've asked for. Kudos to Grunwald for bringing him back. We could've would up with Ramon Sessions or some other bum and went right back to square one.

Knicks would definitely not be 8-1 right now with Lin as he is still learning to play PG in the NBA. You would've lived with the growing pains Lin's development if he was still with the team because expectations weren't as high as they are now. Knicks are 8-1 so expectations of beating Miami have risen

gunsnewing wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:I have still yet to figure out why there are players on this team who have publicly spoken against Lin. Did he say stuff about them or slight them and we just don't know about it? It's kind of baffling.

Personally i don't think men should take about each other money, whether positive or negative.

With that said, talking about that players game is totally open field.

I doubt this team is 8-1 with Lin as the starter.

Dude is averaging the same turnovers average as Felton, yet has a lower usage rating.

That tells me he has alot to learn, but our team needs guys who already know how to play, not students.

I agree Felton has been phenomenal. I doubted whether he would come into camp in shape and whether he could succeed without Dantoni but so far he's been everything we could've asked for. Kudos to Grunwald for bringing him back. We could've would up with Ramon Sessions or some other bum and went right back to square one.

Knicks would definitely not be 8-1 right now with Lin as he is still learning to play PG in the NBA. You would've lived with the growing pains Lin's development if he was still with the team because expectations weren't as high as they are now. Knicks are 8-1 so expectations of beating Miami have risen

The squad we see would have likely been the same squad WITH Lin.

The thing that is making this work is guys knowing how to play the game already and cohesively helping each other be better.

Lin doesn't fit in that scheme, and I'm sorry I could not watch a team this talented lose while grooming anyone.

gunsnewing wrote:I agree but what I'm saying is it that because we are 8-1 it looks like a no brainer to go with guys who have experience. If we were 5-4 people would be questioning where this team is headed since they are built to overtake the Heat and win in the next 3yrs

But does record change the expectation? Most pretty much felt this team would struggle some coming out the game, but that a training camp would be so huge for them, but still expected to at the min make the second round.

I heard all summer this squad could have been the same WITH Lin and he could have helped the team defeat Miami.

I didn't believe that for a second mainly because he is not ready for that stage, and hearing him talk of late...he really has no desire for that.

Allanfan20 wrote:I have still yet to figure out why there are players on this team who have publicly spoken against Lin. Did he say stuff about them or slight them and we just don't know about it? It's kind of baffling.

I also think he really does think Felton is much better at the point for the Knicks.

smackeddog wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:I have still yet to figure out why there are players on this team who have publicly spoken against Lin. Did he say stuff about them or slight them and we just don't know about it? It's kind of baffling.

They're not speaking out against Lin, they're voicing support for their fellow team mate (Felton)- the guy who's actually with the team and wanted to be here. Why should they say Great things about a player on another team?

Meanwhile Lin has been spending most of his interviews whining about how hard it was to be popular in NY, how Woody never texted him to say hi on his days off and how people complaining about him not deserving his contract are doing so out of racism.

Yeah I dont get how people have a problem with our players saying things about him (Tyson, JR, etc.) but when he talks about how our organization did whatever to him theres no problem? Allanfan does have a point though. All of these players really liked Lin when he was here. I remember JR and lin chest bumping that Dallas game, Tyson picking Lin up and hugging him after his game winner in Toronto, and Melo cheering Lin on from the bench after he hit that 3 late in the Laker game. Now, it seems like most of them arent too fond of him and it makes me think he did something behind the scenes.