holfresh wrote:
Interesting debate...Romney's arguments were to the left of President Obama, amazingly...Romney wants to fund civil institutions in Muslin countries...WOW..Romney basically agreed with all of what Obama said, WOW...Romney stalling until the election...Obama was in command the entire debate...Should the interesting...Oh, Obama won this debate...So 2-1...

arkrud wrote:Boring debates.
There is no dif between them on foreign policy.
The way US had success in Bosnia, Libia, first Iraq war was bombing them to the stone age.
Works like charm.
This what we should do with Assad and Iran.
Just use this 300 ships and all this jets to take out their bases, infrastructure, government and they will love us and obey us.
They like power, they understand it.

Russia and China are backing Iran.

IrishKnickFan wrote:
hate obama rooting for romney

ikf - is hate all you got?

can you talk policy or are you stuck on personal bias?

do you think women deserve equal pay for equal work?

izybx wrote:
This is why its frustrating to post in the political threads here. Why does anyone who disagrees have to be insulted? I was called ignorant in the other thread. Here you call someone simple-minded. Who are you to insult someone like this? Do you feel that it is possible for someone to have an informed opinion that differs from your own? Or does a difference in opinion have to come from either stupidity or bigotry?

izybx - whatever issue you had in another thread is irrelevant. IKF Saying "hate obama rooting for Romney" IS simple minded.

Plain and simple

That type of one liner lacks any substance and is rooted in nothing but personal bias.

Yes, talking politics is difficult because it reveals your world view, naked. It forces you to defend yourself clearly and coherently. Talking politics demands education, accurate information and courage.

To get past the personal bias, I asked IKF where he stood on a specific issue. We shall see where he stands.

Meanwhile, back at the debate....

"Obama Came Off As "Childish, Petulant," "Arrogant," A "Community Organizer"

- Sean Hannity, Fox News

Or

Mitt Romney has nothing really coherent or substantive to say about domestic policy, but at least he can sound energetic and confident about it. On foreign policy, the subject of Monday night’s final presidential debate, he had little coherent to say and often sounded completely lost. That’s because he has no original ideas of substance on most world issues, including Syria, Iran and Afghanistan.

At other times, he announced that he had a “strategy” for the Middle East, particularly Iran and Syria, and really for the whole world, but gave no clue what it would be — much like his claim that he has a plan to create 12 million jobs and balance the budget while also cutting taxes, but will not say what it is. At his worst, Mr. Romney sounded like a beauty pageant contestant groping for an answer to the final question. “We want a peaceful planet,” he said. “We want people to be able to enjoy their lives and know they’re going to have a bright and prosperous future and not be at war.”

- NYTimes

Note the severe difference in substance.

misterearl wrote:Hate Obama Rooting for Romney

izybx wrote:
This is why its frustrating to post in the political threads here. Why does anyone who disagrees have to be insulted? I was called ignorant in the other thread. Here you call someone simple-minded. Who are you to insult someone like this? Do you feel that it is possible for someone to have an informed opinion that differs from your own? Or does a difference in opinion have to come from either stupidity or bigotry?

izybx - whatever issue you had in another thread is irrelevant. IKF Saying "hate obama rooting for Romney" IS simple minded.

Plain and simple

Bonn1997 wrote:

misterearl wrote:Hate Obama Rooting for Romney

izybx wrote:
This is why its frustrating to post in the political threads here. Why does anyone who disagrees have to be insulted? I was called ignorant in the other thread. Here you call someone simple-minded. Who are you to insult someone like this? Do you feel that it is possible for someone to have an informed opinion that differs from your own? Or does a difference in opinion have to come from either stupidity or bigotry?

izybx - whatever issue you had in another thread is irrelevant. IKF Saying "hate obama rooting for Romney" IS simple minded.

Plain and simple

Exactly; imagine if someone said "Hate Melo. Rooting for Gallo." Or "Hate Melo. Rooting for JR to start at SF."

I'll respond here rather than earls cut and paste bananza. I'm not defending irish's post, but rather talking about a bigger problem on these threads. For some reason we can't discuss politics without insults. In 2008 I was called a racist and ignorant because i supported McCain. All I'm asking for is that we show some respect for one another.

Romey barely 'won' on the 'would you be more likely to go with the other guy' polling question 25% to 24%

Again, it's either insane or wishful thinking to say Obama dominated because that just isn't true

holfresh wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:CNN after the lection said Obama 'won' 48% to Romey's 40%

Romey barely 'won' on the 'would you be more likely to go with the other guy' polling question 25% to 24%

Again, it's either insane or wishful thinking to say Obama dominated because that just isn't true

If you going to tell the story, tell the whole truth...The majority of people they asked those questions were Republicans and they haven't released the percentage...So if you ask 60/65% of Republicans and came away with 48% for Obama, well dominance probably took place...

so you're saying that CNN only mostly polled Republicans? Source?

from Slate - "The World According to the 2012 Foreign Policy Debate (MAP)"